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I'm sure everyone is busy with the good news about bulk ordering, but there is another issue I've just got to get off my chest. There was another upcoming product hoax recently following in the footsteps of the famous train hoax of 2000. I don't (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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Please tell me you are not talking about the BURP AT-AT... (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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Jeff, (...) I have to agree with Jeff. I thought the last AT-AT was pretty bad, and the fact it said 2001 catalog. The train one was a very good hoax, but it still grates on me in terms of what we would like from our favorite company. Maybe there (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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I think you're taking this entirely too seriously. It's funny. And furthermore, it's clearly a hoax. (24 years ago, 14-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) That certainly wasn't the case with the train hoax, unless people like Larry were just fueling the hoax (which I have to say if that is what was going on is kind of depressing - that there really is that much joy in seeing who is last to (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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Scott: (...) How about this: All text, images, or trademarks in this document are the intellectual property of their respective owners. All content is provided as is, with no warranty stated or implied regarding the quality or accuracy of any (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) My reaction to hoaxes has been one of optimism: I always hope that perhaps Lego is taking note of the great excitement and desire to spend $$$$ that is expressed when we all think that we're going to get the kinds of sets and pieces that we've (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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"James Simpson" <jsimpson@rice.edu> wrote in message news:Fw5tuD.I1H@lugnet.com... (...) Lego (...) pieces (...) I have to agree on this point. I became very disappointed as evidence pointed towards the Train hoax. The sets were simply gorgeous. But (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) It was supposed to be bad! It was a joke, I wasn't going for a hoax! Couldn't you tell? I hope so. If not, then, well, I don't know what needs to be done to you :) Greg "This whole thunder deal is just making me mad now!" Majewski (URL) (24 years ago, 14-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) The train hoax was clearly a hoax? I don't think I agree with that, I never posted to that thread, but I followed it very closely. There was quite a bit of heated discussion about the matter. When it was revealed as a hoax, I know not everyone (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) The train hoax was well perpetrated (Excellent work Ben!). I also followed the thread closely, and as far as I know no-one who was tricked went on to ask "hey, what's this April Fools Day thing you're all talking about?" 95% of posters to (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Including making amusing jokes. To turn the coin the other way: how might it make someone feel when he goes to all the trouble of making a really funny spoof picture, and then a bunch of people jump on him calling him a deceptive liar? (24 years ago, 15-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Hear, hear! There’s so much anticipation surrounding possible future products that people can be forgiven for getting miffed when they’ve had the ABS pulled over their eyes, but there’s such a thing as taking suspicion too far. When the first (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I look at the possitive side of these hoaxes. As a collective group they make us think!!!! We get to play detective. And there is almost always someone who says "Ah ha! This can't be real because......" For those who are well versed on LEGO (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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I've decided I might as well throw in my .02: I have loved every hoax that has shown up on LUGNET so far. I don't think I'm alone in admiring how close people can get to actual product designs or catalog layouts, etc. I've even taken a shot at it (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Don't worry -- I'm sure most people got it. I know I did. :) It was the best thing since set 666, BURP Adventure. I wasn't too keen on using lugnet.announce for this purpose, but .announce seems to be taking a certain amount of abuse and (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(800 pounds of foolishness removed) Geesh, can't you take a joke? (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) No, I fell for it, hook line and sinker. Perhaps it's because I *wanted* it to be true, because I know that Lego is capable of far better designs than what we are currently getting in the train line. When I finally realised these were a hoax, (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I definitely got a laugh out of it, not as much of a laugh as set 666 though. (...) I agree. I'm not sure what my own feelings are, but I'll be interested in seeing what comes out of a serious discussion (assuming there are folks interested in (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) <grin> (...) Hehe... I'll keep that in mind when you put up pics of the new 2001 sets ;-) I agree with what has been said here, that the hoaxes are all in fun, and even give us something to talk about. Still, there were a few people who (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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In lugnet.general, Steve Bliss writes: <snip> (...) Hmm... I'd be interested in hearing what you think should/should not be in .announce... I think different people have different thoughts about that, so I'd love to hear what someone other than (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I think the people saying they wanted it for the BURPs were joking. (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I wouldn't be totally sure. At least one of them has asked me in the past to trade for BURPs. :-) -Shiri (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I understood your posting as very obvious joke. But, a year ago, when I first started looking at Lugnet, I saw the 121 train question and wasted several hours researching it. I was not happy to come to a site that I thought was a true Lego (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I haven't decided how I feel about "serious" hoaxes yet, although I tend to side with you that they can be bad. But I have to say that you got incredibly unlucky if the first two things you saw were both hoaxes, and both by Ben. That is (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I think your idea has merit and is worthy of discussion. However, these debates can veer off-topic quickly (the blue hopper debate, IMHO, quickly degenerated into an anti-American/anti-wealth diatribe.) Would that mean that you'd have to move (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) first (...) Lego (...) somewhere (...) remember (...) It's scary to think about the probability of it! I am trying to keep an open mind because it IS a way to see some really creative models. I am working on my own web page. Hopefully, people (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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Hey, I missed the BURP AT AT, and I've looked all over Lugnet for it. Can someone direct me to it? Markus (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I think we've seen some confusion in this thread between two different kinds of pretence: (1) parodies/gags/jokes that are designed to point out the shortcomings of sets and themes by exaggerating their flaws (2) hoaxes that are designed to (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I know, I didn't expect to fool anyone, especially since I had posted other pics of the model to LUGNET earlier...but people still asked if I had them for sale... --Bram Bram Lambrecht.........Br...L@JUNO.com (URL) (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Am I the only one who wants to see more attempts to copy the quality and designs of official instructions and packaging? Maybe it's my interest in design...Maybe blatant hoaxes can hurt people, but I think hoaxes will make people pay closer (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) a (...) But not both hoaxes were by Ben (you're talking about the AT-AT hoax, not so? That was Greg M.'s). Still, very low probability, there weren't many hoaxes here. -Shiri (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) No, he was talking about Ben's one year ago april fools "I found a really old train set" and this years april fools "there is some new train stuff coming in December" Both of which were masterfully(1) done and which drew people in for quite a (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Finally found it (1): (URL) following thread is almost as funny as the actual..."hoax". Good job, Greg. :-, Cheers, - jsproat 1. But don't try searching for "at-at" -- it seems that 2-letter words aren't indexed by LUGNET, for various good (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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Scott: (...) I'm torn about this. I agree that lugnet.announcements might be a problem, since the supposition seems to be that information posted there is presented as accurate in good faith. I'd be less worked up about a hoax posted to an (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Those trains were a hoax? Are we talking about the mysterious German catalog? Dang, I was fooled...probably too much too hope for from LEGO though. What if we ship by transdimensional transporter portal? Will that help your LEGO habit? Best (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) And these were both on April 1st? You'd think that the second time around, the debunking would come rather quickly. (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) No, because this time Ben didn't post it himself... he put it up at a german lego site, that didn't mention who put the catalogs in... no hints to relate it to Ben until he out-and-out admitted it. -Shiri (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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Bram, > Am I the only one who wants to see more attempts to copy the quality and (...) I think we might be getting off the original intent of the posting. I liked the train hoax. I think it was really well done, and the discussion for it was valid. (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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Dave, (...) next (...) problem, (...) presented (...) an (...) lugnet.starwars. (...) Indeed. This just smelt bad to me. (...) labels (...) Well, yes, but I don't mind hoaxes about my favorite subject, as others I am sure. I guess this concerned me (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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Both of which have made me basically not trust anything Ben says ANYWHERE near April. And maybe the rest of the year too. (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (24 years ago, 16-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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In ?" 95% of (...) antartica right.and Autralasia is an awfullybig place! (24 years ago, 17-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Sorry for any confusion Ravi -- by Australasia I only meant Australia, New Zealand and the South Pacific. So roughly 10% of the world's population would have the same cultural background as 95% of Lugnetters, and there's still a fair range in (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Huh-iwas just kidding!-note phrase awfullybig (24 years ago, 18-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) That's cool, and it's also cool that it demonstrates my point. Communication, especially humour, can easily be misunderstood in a forum where people come from different backgrounds and read in different ways. --Dave (24 years ago, 18-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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(...) 1. (...) would (...) It also happens to pple with similar backgrounds! (24 years ago, 18-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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In lugnet.general, David Low writes: <snippage> (...) Greetings, Yes , I ,too, have noticed a difficulty in conveing Humoristic comments via a typed out entry into a newsgroup...he says wryly.... it seems the vebral tone doesnt carry well into (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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Frank Filz wrote in message <394A294B.3F78@minds...ng.com>... (...) worked (...) Set 666 "BURP Adventure" didn't make me laugh - I like BURPs a lot, so my reaction was, "Cool - if I saw a shelf full of those on clearance I'd buy all of them!" ;-) (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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Matthew Miller wrote in message ... (...) thought (...) No way, BURPs rule! Go on then, spend fifty grand on dark gray bricks from LD, I'll spend five and have my mountain built five years before you've even started ;-) Then again, unlike me you'd (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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Having watched this debate with some interest, I have a thought. How's this for good hoax etiquette? If you do post something as a hoax (AT-AT not withstanding) you must afterwards post the directions for making your phony lego product. Then all (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jun-00, to lugnet.general)
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