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Re: Castle World is dead.
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lugnet.castle.org.cw
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Tue, 2 Sep 2003 19:13:17 GMT
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In lugnet.castle.org.cw, Alex Polimeni wrote:
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In lugnet.castle.org.cw, Richard Marchetti wrote:
Oh, the official last name adressal? Oooh, were gettin SERIOS here...
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One of my primary rules for CW is that you do not have any rights to my
time.
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Nobody should. And nobody should have rights over anyone elses time either.
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My own laziness is an issue that is being addressed with the new proposal
that Pawel and I are working on. Why Pawel? Because it was his baby to
begin with.
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He created it, yeah, and so on. But hes barely posted. Hes lurking. So we
should put a figure that barely posts as our head?
Why not you, Sava? Well, as seen from the previous post you can
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be a little dictatorial and I dont care for that quality in a person.
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Yet some how it seems to both me and i beleive Sava that you are being
dictatorial. Oh yes, i know, lotta people think i am too. But still, you do
seem to be a bit.
Pawel
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and I have worked out a solution that allows expansive autonomy for
individuals, groups, whomever wants to participate. The only reason I am
going to maintain a hand in it at all is to make sure no one person or group
messes up what others are doing.
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Others: yourself, i guess? So your the cheif head, and others can
participate, but under your rule?
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Pawel and I have taken the babble of ideas from the bazaar back to the
cathedral with us, there we have refined those same ideas for re-release
back to the bazaar.
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Oh, so your the big people in the Cathedral, and were the mindless rabble
babbling ideas at you. So you take what us, your equals say, twist it to your
ends, and then put it back? Interesting.
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I am sorry that you see this as an us v them thing, and that you intend on
taking everyone here with you.
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Oh, so your the god with the white power or something? The savior? And me and
Sava are bringing the whole thing to damnation or something?
That seems divisive to me and I hope that
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others disagree that there is an us v them situation here, there is only
an us and no them at all. Why you would act to divide the participants in
this newsgroup is a move beyond all reason in my estimation.
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Well, what i see in this is that your trying to steer .Castle to a particular
end, and some of us dont agree with it, and so you acuse us as deviders.
So we should just smile and go along with you? Whats up with that?
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I am going to continue refining the proposal Pawel and I are working on for
release to this community. If members of this community choose not to
participate, then that is everyones loss.
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Seems kind of snottyish to me. If you dont like it, well, dont like it, but
all the true beleivers will go with me, or something like that is what it
seems like your saying.
Dont think that me and Sava are the only people who feel this way!
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Minor Digression: The last time the site was updated was actually almost a
year ago -- 10-27-02, 8:44 PM. When I took it over, it was really and truly
dead. I have done nothing of importance with the site until but very
recently when interest was naturally regenerated in this community.
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You didnt generate interest, now did you? You didnt try to revive it. How is
that helping?
I am
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still unsure of how to proceed with CW, not in itself, but because of some
of the other projects under discussion and because I do not want CW to
compete for energy with those other projects. I have said as much elswhere
-- I want to pull us together, not tear us apart. I have made public
requests of the other project coordinators to let us know what they had in
the works so that we wouldnt be stepping on anyone elses toes
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How come i, the person working hard on CQ, was never contacted? You have left
it out interly, probably going to dub it dead before life. Well, CW had a
life once, and its dead. So why should anyone care about it?
(see:http://news.lugnet.com/castle/org/cw/?n=1770)
DEAD LINK!
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. I wanted to give full support
to ideas like CCC, even if that meant putting CW on a back burner. End
Digression.
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Oooh, what a sacrifice for you.
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As it stands. I think Pawel and I will just put our revamped CW idea out
there and let the bazaar choose where they will put their energies.
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Ah, but what, me and sava shouldnt?
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I dont care what you do on your own, Sava.
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I guess you dont care about my projects, either.
Create whatever project you
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wish. Take whomever you want with you.
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Cant people go where they please? There is no discussion, when someone like
you comes along. Its your way or the high-way.
I am not the boss of you as you are
Exept when it comes to CW plans. Then your the boss.
I have no idea why calling for a little patience is so
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taxing to you, we are not on a schedule after all...at least, I am not.
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I know, i put CQ on a shcedule and beat the crap out of it. But if i called
for a little patience i got yelled at. Oh, i forgot, im flogging the dead
horse.
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If something seems amiss, you need to reread the first line of this post.
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Sava:? How does that help anything?
Aramir, son of Deremir, weilder of Andor, Nightwing, sword of the Balance of
Night, Paladin king of Uldeseen.
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Ok time for me to get a say in this. For the two years Ive been here I surely
know you cant push over the castle world admins, trust me I have tried. I have
started up argument and pleaded for new admind (with me as 1). Of course even
though it was dead they would not pass the torch down. They could not properly
do the job that was needed to be done.
In this case Anthony wants to get new admins, but it didnt work a year ago when
I tried so why would it work now.
I think not updating in a year is defiantly an admin thing to do. I completely
agree with Anthony and Leo. Castle world is dead and frankly you cant revive
it. When I offered to take over my reasons were, Im a kid I am only busy during
Exams and well I love this place and want to see it succeed. I know I stopped
for like 4 or 5 months (I exaggerated about 6 in my last post) but mainly do to
exam and summer I had 5 million vacation trips. As off now my time off lost me
the right to be an admin but I still want castle to succeed.
What I am trying to say is that whenever castle dies and new admins offer to
come in the old ones all of sudden start posting again saying why you cant be an
admin (talking from my experience). Admins killed the site and refuse to give it
they also refuse to take responsibility for it. Hence I think the torch should
be passes to Leo and Anthony and Matt and Ben and ECT... I know I will do What
ever I can to help.
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Message has 1 Reply: | | Re: Castle World is dead.
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| (...) I'm kind of a lurker here, but have been a lurker for over 3 years now. I've probably read every one of Daniel's posts, and what he lacks in spelling and grammar, he more than makes up in enthusiasm and desire to help and create something out (...) (21 years ago, 3-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, FTX)
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| (...) Oh, the official "last name" adressal? Oooh, were gettin SERIOS here... (...) Nobody should. And nobody should have rights over anyone elses time either. (...) He created it, yeah, and so on. But hes barely posted. Hes lurking. So we should (...) (21 years ago, 2-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, FTX)
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