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Subject: 
Re: Castle World is dead.
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lugnet.castle.org.cw
Date: 
Tue, 2 Sep 2003 19:13:17 GMT
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In lugnet.castle.org.cw, Alex Polimeni wrote:
   In lugnet.castle.org.cw, Richard Marchetti wrote:
   Sava:

Oh, the official “last name” adressal? Oooh, were gettin SERIOS here...

   One of my primary rules for CW is that you do not have any rights to my time.

Nobody should. And nobody should have rights over anyone elses time either.

   My own laziness is an issue that is being addressed with the new proposal that Pawel and I are working on. Why Pawel? Because it was his baby to begin with.

He created it, yeah, and so on. But hes barely posted. Hes lurking. So we should put a figure that barely posts as our head?

Why not you, Sava? Well, as seen from the previous post you can
   be a little dictatorial and I don’t care for that quality in a person.

Yet some how it seems to both me and i beleive Sava that you are being dictatorial. Oh yes, i know, lotta people think i am too. But still, you do seem to be a bit.

Pawel
   and I have worked out a solution that allows expansive autonomy for individuals, groups, whomever wants to participate. The only reason I am going to maintain a hand in it at all is to make sure no one person or group messes up what others are doing.

Others: yourself, i guess? So your the cheif head, and others can participate, but under your rule?

   Pawel and I have taken the babble of ideas from the bazaar back to the cathedral with us, there we have refined those same ideas for re-release back to the bazaar.

Oh, so your the big people in the Cathedral, and were the mindless rabble babbling ideas at you. So you take what us, your equals say, twist it to your ends, and then put it back? Interesting.
  
I am sorry that you see this as an “us v them” thing, and that you intend on taking everyone here with you.

Oh, so your the god with the white power or something? The savior? And me and Sava are bringing the whole thing to damnation or something?

That seems divisive to me and I hope that
   others disagree that there is an “us v them” situation here, there is only an us and no them at all. Why you would act to divide the participants in this newsgroup is a move beyond all reason in my estimation.

Well, what i see in this is that your trying to steer .Castle to a particular end, and some of us dont agree with it, and so you acuse us as “deviders”. So we should just smile and go along with you? Whats up with that?

   I am going to continue refining the proposal Pawel and I are working on for release to this community. If members of this community choose not to participate, then that is everyone’s loss.

Seems kind of snottyish to me. If you dont like it, well, dont like it, but all the true beleivers will go with me, or something like that is what it seems like your saying.

Dont think that me and Sava are the only people who feel this way!

   Minor Digression: The last time the site was updated was actually almost a year ago -- 10-27-02, 8:44 PM. When I took it over, it was really and truly dead. I have done nothing of importance with the site until but very recently when interest was naturally regenerated in this community.

You didnt generate interest, now did you? You didnt try to revive it. How is that helping?

I am
   still unsure of how to proceed with CW, not in itself, but because of some of the other projects under discussion and because I do not want CW to compete for energy with those other projects. I have said as much elswhere -- I want to pull us together, not tear us apart. I have made public requests of the other project coordinators to let us know what they had in the works so that we wouldn’t be stepping on anyone else’s toes

How come i, the person working hard on CQ, was never contacted? You have left it out interly, probably going to dub it “dead before life”. Well, CW had a life once, and its dead. So why should anyone care about it?

(see:http://news.lugnet.com/castle/org/cw/?n=1770)

DEAD LINK!

   . I wanted to give full support to ideas like CCC, even if that meant putting CW on a back burner. End Digression.

Oooh, what a sacrifice for you.
  
As it stands. I think Pawel and I will just put our revamped CW idea out there and let the bazaar choose where they will put their energies.

Ah, but what, me and sava shouldnt?

   I don’t care what you do on your own, Sava.

I guess you dont care about my projects, either.

Create whatever project you
   wish. Take whomever you want with you.

Cant people go where they please? There is no discussion, when someone like you comes along. Its your way or the high-way.

I am not the boss of you as you are
   not the boss of me.

Exept when it comes to CW plans. Then your the boss.

I have no idea why calling for a little patience is so
   taxing to you, we are not on a schedule after all...at least, I am not.

I know, i put CQ on a shcedule and beat the crap out of it. But if i called for a “little patience” i got yelled at. Oh, i forgot, im flogging the dead horse.

   If something seems amiss, you need to reread the first line of this post.

Sava:? How does that help anything?
  
-- Hop-Frog

Aramir, son of Deremir, weilder of Andor, Nightwing, sword of the Balance of Night, Paladin king of Uldeseen.


Ok time for me to get a say in this. For the two years I’ve been here I surely know you can’t push over the castle world admins, trust me I have tried. I have started up argument and pleaded for new admind (with me as 1). Of course even though it was dead they would not pass the torch down. They could not properly do the job that was needed to be done.

In this case Anthony wants to get new admins, but it didn’t work a year ago when I tried so why would it work now.

I think not updating in a year is defiantly an admin thing to do. I completely agree with Anthony and Leo. Castle world is dead and frankly you can’t revive it. When I offered to take over my reasons were, I’m a kid I am only busy during Exams and well I love this place and want to see it succeed. I know I stopped for like 4 or 5 months (I exaggerated about 6 in my last post) but mainly do to exam and summer I had 5 million vacation trips. As off now my time off lost me the right to be an admin but I still want castle to succeed.

What I am trying to say is that whenever castle dies and new admins offer to come in the old ones all of sudden start posting again saying why you cant be an admin (talking from my experience). Admins killed the site and refuse to give it they also refuse to take responsibility for it. Hence I think the torch should be passes to Leo and Anthony and Matt and Ben and ECT... I know I will do What ever I can to help.



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(...) I'm kind of a lurker here, but have been a lurker for over 3 years now. I've probably read every one of Daniel's posts, and what he lacks in spelling and grammar, he more than makes up in enthusiasm and desire to help and create something out (...) (21 years ago, 3-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, FTX)

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(...) Oh, the official "last name" adressal? Oooh, were gettin SERIOS here... (...) Nobody should. And nobody should have rights over anyone elses time either. (...) He created it, yeah, and so on. But hes barely posted. Hes lurking. So we should (...) (21 years ago, 2-Sep-03, to lugnet.castle.org.cw, FTX)

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