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Subject: 
Re: LUGNET Posting Policy Update
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.admin.general
Date: 
Tue, 28 Dec 2004 13:11:40 GMT
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(I'm trying to guess where the FUT was supposed to be - .admin.general?)

On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 05:23:10AM +0000, Kelly J. McKiernan wrote:
Suspending posting privileges is a serious step, not one to take
lightly or capriciously and therefore the policy we will use has been
given some thought. By convention and agreement, it will take at least
two of the abovementioned folks to agree that a timeout is necessary
for a particular case, and to agree on the length and groups that it
applies to. Although, mechanically, anyone with the authority can add
(or remove) privs at will for any user can do so by themselves, we are
going to do so only after consultation within the group.

This is a matter that we will enforce ourselves, if members of the
group violate our internal guideline we will take action as necessary.
When a timeout is deemed warranted by at least two administrators,
action will be taken. All admin action is always subject to review by
all administrators.

I think this is a good idea (not just the accoutnability, but the whole
suspension bit).  But I'm trying to understand the technical details -
when someone is suspended, will it be noted someplace?  If it's not (at
least not to the public), will the admins get notified?  Or does
everyone that get suspended have to write to all those people to make
sure that the process was followed?  (Can you guess which way I think
would be better? :)

When a timeout is given, there will be a note sent to the user at
their posting address saying that the timeout has been imposed and
referencing the specific post or posts that caused the admins to take
the action. The user will need to acknowledge receipt of the note and
understanding of the consequences, and agree not to circumvent the
timeout by posting from a different email identifier, even if that
email identifer is already registered and was not administratively
restricted. Failure to acknowledge the note back, or trying to
circumvent the timeout may be cause, in the sole judgment of the
admins, for imposition of additional timeouts.

This sounds like a good idea, but I worry about stale emails in
profiles.  Especially for people who post via the web, there isn't
anything right now that checks that their email address is still valid.
If someone switched ISPs, but forgot to update their profile, they'll
never get the notice.  If that happens, will they have any options
except posting on .admin.general (assuming they're still allowed)?
Ideally, when they try to post elsewhere, they'll get the note that was
sent to their email isntead of the posting page...  But that would
require some code, which I understand isn't an option right now.

I do think this new "power" is a good thing, and should have always been
there.  I just don't want the technical details of it to get in the way.

--
Dan Boger
dan@peeron.com



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  Re: LUGNET Posting Policy Update
 
(...) Kelly set .terms on purpose, by the precedent that Suz set when she announced ((URL) the "New Policy on Bickering in LUGNET Newsgroups", not by mistake. I've reset the FUT there to keep things together (there is already another followup there) (...) (19 years ago, 28-Dec-04, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.terms)

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  LUGNET Posting Policy Update
 
LUGNET administration has always had the ability to temporarily or permanently suspend the posting privileges of a user or member. In the past this has been only very rarely used. The mechanism for doing so was such that only Todd (or for a time, (...) (19 years ago, 28-Dec-04, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.terms, lugnet.announce, lugnet.general, FTX) !! 

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