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Re: Official and Unofficial theme categories
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"Huw Millington" <hmillington@cix.co.uk> writes:
> Some initial thoughts in promotional sets in my lunchbreak...
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> Categorising promotional sets will as you suggest be frought with
> difficulties. That's why I went for the 'keyword' method of categorising
> them in my database, which can be a type of set (e.g. ferry), the name or
> type of the co-promoting company (Shell, Kelloggs, airline) or a LEGO
> theme/subtheme (Adventurers). I guess with your fuzzy categories you'll be
> able to make a freestyle set that is sold only on ferries 80% freestyle, 10%
> ferry, 10% Stena Line (or whatever)
Right -- but fuzzy categories don't necessarily have to add up to 100%.
Something like the 1548 Ferry would probably go in as 100% "Stena Line",
100% "ferry" (which could be a sub-category of something associating it with
boats), and some smaller percentage of some category that associated
very-small-scale modeling like this with other small-scale models like the
U.S.S. Constellation or whatever else. Something like 2188 would probably
go in as 100% "Colorline", 0% "ferry", and 100% "FreeStyle" (100% rather
than 80% or 90% because it actually says "FreeStyle" on the instructions).
> Some promotional sets are promotional in one country, but available from
> regular outlets in others, such as the 28xx sets.
Aha -- this is good to know!
What then about things like Unitron (1787, 1789, 1793) and Roboforce
(2151-2154)? Are those promotional because of the numberings, or are the
numberings out-of-place because of the limited release?
How about Dark Forest? -- I think Dark Forest was released to the same
markets as Roboforce (i.e., U.S. plus a couple other places), but Dark
Forest sets kept the normal castle 60xx numberings.
> A promotional set to my mind is any set that has not been given a set number
> in the same range as others of its type. LEGO must have deviated for some
> reason - usually its obvious why, but sometime not.
I'm still confused as to why there are 3 versions of Treasure Raiders --
2879, 5909, and 5948. I think only one of them (2879) has the mummy storage
case -- at least they gave it a number clearly way out-of-range.
6000/6999 is another weird one, eh? 6999 is the limited-release promotional
version, and while it somewhat out of place in the numbering, it's still
technically within the 68xx-69xx range of all normal Space sets. By it's
size, 6999 would normally have been numbered somewhere between 6880 and 6920
-- hey, maybe 6900 :-)
--Todd
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| (...) But given that 2188 is available only on ferries, doesn't that count for something? Its not a ferry per se, but in some way it is related to 'ferry', taking 'ferry' to be a generic term for a group of co-promoting companies. (...) To my mind, (...) (26 years ago, 7-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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| ...<snip>... (...) I think another extremely diverse set is the famous Explorien/UFO Hovertron thingy. Besides being discussed if it is a UFO set or not, It has also three set numbers: 6800 (the one released in Turkey as one of the little boxed sets (...) (26 years ago, 7-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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| Some initial thoughts in promotional sets in my lunchbreak... Categorising promotional sets will as you suggest be frought with difficulties. That's why I went for the 'keyword' method of categorising them in my database, which can be a type of set (...) (26 years ago, 7-Jan-99, to lugnet.admin.database)
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