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| | | We had a small gathering to test out stuff for our upcoming remote control Rock Crawling event at Brickworld. As usual, John showed up with a really cool looking truck, with a roll cage & fancy front end... (URL) the roll cage was destroyed when the (...) (17 years ago, 31-Dec-06, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | Re: Rock Crawling —Rafe Donahue
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| | | | | In lugnet.org.us.laflrc, Steve Hassenplug wrote: <snipage> (...) To me it seems interesting that Steve's house has more boxes of NXTs than boxes of diapers... (17 years ago, 31-Dec-06, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | Re: Rock Crawling —Steve Hassenplug
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| | | | | | (...) The diaper boxes are around 4 years old, and no longer contain diapers. Most of the NXT boxes are also empty. Will you be joining us at Brickworld in June? Steve (17 years ago, 31-Dec-06, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Rock Crawling —Rafe Donahue
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| | | | | | (...) "It's on my calendar", which is akin to "the check is in the mail." I am planning to attend; six months from now, who knows what will happen. My NXT is fucntioning, so that is good. I guess I need to work on bulding a four-wheeler! Oh, by the (...) (17 years ago, 31-Dec-06, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Rock Crawling —Bryan Bonahoom
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| | | | | | | (...) There is no requirement to construct using your NXT...any LEGO will work. (...) Yes - but make sure you use a compatible BT adapter...there is a list somewhere...I think it is on NXTasy or TheNextStep... (...) Steve and Brian Davis both have (...) (17 years ago, 31-Dec-06, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Rock Crawling —Jordan Bradford
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| | | | | | | | (...) The list is maintained here: (URL) discussion here: (URL) newest catalog (January 2007) and the website now have the "official" BT adapter, 9847: (URL) a bit expensive, though; the one I bought at Staples cost me $30. (17 years ago, 31-Dec-06, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Rock Crawling & Bluetooth —Steve Hassenplug
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| | | | | | (...) Yes, but it's good to have a plan. (...) That's what I've done. However, they seem to work best if you use the Windows drivers, and not the drivers that come with the dongle. (...) This is the cool thing. There are a bunch of ways to control (...) (17 years ago, 31-Dec-06, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Rock Crawling & Bluetooth —Rafe Donahue
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| | | | | | (...) Oh, it's a plan. But I can't commit just yet; wait'll next year. :-) (...) It looks like I need to get one of these dongle thingies. If I get my act together before midnight, I found a dlink dbt-120 for about $18 online, plus a $10 rebate. Of (...) (17 years ago, 1-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Rock Crawling & Bluetooth —Steve Hassenplug
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| | | | | | | (...) Ok, now can you commit? :) (...) Sorry if I didn't explain that. NXT-G is the software that came with the NXT. You can get an update to the software from NI, which allows you to add blocks that are not included with the standard software. (...) (17 years ago, 1-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Rock Crawling & Bluetooth —John Brost
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| | | | | | (...) I understand the unwillingness to buy a controller for a video-game system that you don't own (I struggled with that a bit too), but using the playstation remote and mindsensors sensor is pretty practical compared to other methods of remote (...) (17 years ago, 2-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | Re: Rock Crawling —Bryan Bonahoom
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| | | | | (...) I am bummed that I couldn't make it down to Lafayette yesterday...looks like it was fun... Were you and John the only ones with trucks? Mine is getting close...thought I had it done a little while ago and discovered I had mounted some stuff (...) (17 years ago, 31-Dec-06, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | Re: Rock Crawling —John Brost
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| | | | | | (...) We were the only ones there-- unless you count Matt and Kurt, whose spybot vehicles did almost as well going through the course as my truck did ;) (...) I've noticed it is a little harder to keep track of this kind of stuff when building (...) (17 years ago, 2-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | Re: Rock Crawling —John Brost
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| | | | | Steve, I just had a thought on scoring. You mentioned that you wanted to make the course tough enough so a perfect score (no penalties) would be nearly impossible. How about giving a penalty every time someone backed up? I can't remember a single (...) (17 years ago, 2-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | Re: Rock Crawling —Steve Hassenplug
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| | | | | | (...) That's how they do it in "real" rock crawling. It will be a little different for us, because you don't actually have to "put it into reverse". I think having a penalty for backing up may be good. In the "real" event, there is also a penalty (...) (17 years ago, 2-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | Re: Rock Crawling —Jordan Bradford
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| | | | | So . . . I've been lurking in your club's newsgroup lately and am wondering if this rock crawling challenge will be at BrickWorld for sure. Are there other robotics events planned? (17 years ago, 10-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | Re: Rock Crawling —Brian Davis
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| | | | | | | (...) We're not sure, yet, if Rock Crawling will be on the menu for Brickworld. There will certainly be some robotics events, but we've not finalized a list as yet. Does Rock Crawling sound interesting? (17 years ago, 10-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Rock Crawling —John Brost
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| | | | | | | | (...) That's because you haven't built a rock crawler and experienced how much fun it is ;) I definitly think this should be an event. The biggest problem I see is finding/bringing things to make a course. John (17 years ago, 10-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Rock Crawling —Brian Davis
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| | | | | | | | (...) Oh, I know it's fun - I was asking the community out there in general, not echoing my internal thoughts :-). (...) No problem - the "course" is to drive over Steve. We should be able to get all of rtlToronto to come down for this one ;-). (17 years ago, 10-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Rock Crawling —David Koudys
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| | | | | | | | | In lugnet.org.us.laflrc, Brian Davis wrote: <snip> (...) Nyyahhhh.. we build robots, not glorified RC cars... ;) Actually, after seeing pics and videos from you guys, I'm so totally floored by Rock Crawling! I'd make the trip if I had an NXT :) Dave (...) (17 years ago, 10-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Rock Crawling —Bryan Bonahoom
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Who needs an NXT??? I am using an RC buggy remote. Question: If you guys in RTL Toronto build robots as you said, then why on earth don't you have an NXT already? (Check with Calum...I hear he has an NXT that he isn't using) :) B (17 years ago, 10-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Rock Crawling —David Koudys
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) 'cause I like building robots with brick-plate-plate-brick studded construction. And I like the ability to have 10 motors in 1 bot using 1 RCX. When John develops a multiplexor to sell for the NXT so I can have more than 1 motor connected to (...) (17 years ago, 12-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Rock Crawling —Rafe Donahue
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) So, I'm wondering about the NXT's ability to command the RCX. How possible is the following: I know that I can hook up motors to my RCX sensor ports and vice versa. They might not work doing anything really practical but they can be hooked up. (...) (17 years ago, 12-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: NXT2RCX —Steve Hassenplug
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| | | | | | | | | | At 12:22 PM 1/12/07, Rafe Donahue wrote: Nemo, (...) I think this is possible, and would work, at least as well as it did on the RCX. A simple conversion cable could be connected to both. I believe the wires that would be connected would act just (...) (17 years ago, 12-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | | | | Unit LNE of the dinochrome brigade (Was: Rock Crawling) —Brian Davis
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| | | | | | | | (...) The more I thought about this, the more I liked this idea: I wanted to make a really high-mobility vehicle, but the problem with wheels is they are really stopped by steps greater than their own radius (well, partially, ignoring pushing from (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Unit LNE of the dinochrome brigade (Was: Rock Crawling) —Geoffrey Hyde
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| | | | | | | | | "Brian Davis" <brdavis@iusb.edu> wrote in message news:JCAvs8.H94@lugnet.com... (...) Have you considered using the new 5-wide treads found in the new Technic Snowmobile? They seem a lot more suited to driving over most surfaces with their added (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Unit LNE of the dinochrome brigade (Was: Rock Crawling) —Geoffrey Hyde
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| | | | | | | | | | | "Geoffrey Hyde" <g.hyde@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:JCAxx2.8KF@lugnet.com... (...) (URL) forgot to include the URL of the set I was talking about. Here is is above. Cheers ... Geoffrey Hyde (17 years ago, 23-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Unit LNE of the dinochrome brigade (Was: Rock Crawling) —Brian Davis
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Yes, and no. The problem is they are hard plastic with ridges, so if a tread ridge catches on a rough portion of the surface, they push fine... but if the surface is smooth, they'll just slide (very low coefficient of friction). The width is (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Unit LNE of the dinochrome brigade (Was: Rock Crawling) —Geoffrey Hyde
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| | | | | | | | | | "Brian Davis" <brdavis@iusb.edu> wrote in message news:JCBttB.GEJ@lugnet.com... (...) I see. I wonder if we'll ever see some kind of rubber plug-in outer surface for these treads? Since they already have mounting holes, it only remains to figure (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Unit LNE of the dinochrome brigade (Was: Rock Crawling) —Brian Davis
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I would like to hope so. Those mounting holes would seem perfect to secure rubber cleats to, especially with the ridges on the hard plastic tread underneath. That one piece woulkd change them from semi-decorative to fully robotic functional (...) (17 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Unit LNE of the dinochrome brigade (Was: Rock Crawling) —Nathan Bell
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Awesome! Great videos! BTW if you want to know how to make bigger tires, try inserting old school 1" Lego tires into the crevices around the large grey "hula hoops" from the star wars kit. This will make tires at least 8" (20 cm) in diameter (...) (17 years ago, 24-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Unit LNE of the dinochrome brigade (Was: Rock Crawling) —Brian Davis
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| | | | | | | | | (...) OK, I hammered on it some more, and made a much more fun video. I updated Brickshelf with some "deconstruction" pictures that show how to build it (hey, I didn't say they made it *easy* to build it): (URL) the video on YouTube, with my son (...) (17 years ago, 29-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Unit LNE of the dinochrome brigade (Was: Rock Crawling) —Matthias Paul Scholz
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| | | | | | | | | | | Brian, (...) Absolutely awesome! /Matthias (deeply impressed) ps Now I'm going to wait day and night for the LDraw file ;-) (give them an inch and they will take a mile...) (17 years ago, 29-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Unit LNE of the dinochrome brigade (Was: Rock Crawling) —Philippe Hurbain
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Same comments and feelings here ;o) Brian, it would help to reproduce your outstanding design (and maybe CAD it!) if you could provide higher resolutions photographs somewhere... Philo (17 years ago, 29-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Unit LNE of the dinochrome brigade (Was: Rock Crawling) —Brian Davis
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Thank you both Matthias & Philo (and others!). give them an inch indeed... first, I really feel i need to apologize for *not* CADing this up. I've tried to CAD stuff, but the combination of my chosen platform (Mac) coupled with where I like (...) (17 years ago, 29-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Unit LNE of the dinochrome brigade (Was: Rock Crawling) —Rafe Donahue
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) go nuts when they see the video! (17 years ago, 29-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Unit LNE of the dinochrome brigade (Was: Rock Crawling) —Brian Davis
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Ha! Methinks you underestimate the talents (not to mention obsession) of the other folks in this event <grin>. Seriously, thanks for the kind words, and I'm very happy with it, but now the rest of you know yet another way to try to do it. Go (...) (17 years ago, 29-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Unit LNE of the dinochrome brigade (Was: Rock Crawling) —Anders Isaksson
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) camera angle and lots of action! I liked it! (17 years ago, 29-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Unit LNE of the dinochrome brigade (Was: Rock Crawling) —Jordan Bradford
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| | | | | | | | Brian, your rock crawler is quite interesting to me because you've rediscovered the design of a real-world reconnaissance robot: (URL) designer is related to my boss in some manner that I can't recall, but he was up at our office last summer showing (...) (17 years ago, 29-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Unit LNE of the dinochrome brigade (Was: Rock Crawling) —Brian Davis
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| | | | | | | | (...) well, in all honesty I shamelessly implemented a solution I had already known about: PackBot by iRobot. I won't remotely claim the idea originated with me, as it didn't. I was inspired by the "real world" here. That said, I'd not run across (...) (17 years ago, 29-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Unit LNE of the dinochrome brigade (Was: Rock Crawling) —Jordan Bradford
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| | | | | | | | The second set of arms on Mike's robot gives it better mobility. They make its overall tread length much longer, so it can treat stairs like a ramp instead of, well, stairs, and that makes it faster at climbing them. The arms also let it raise the (...) (17 years ago, 29-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | Re: Rock Crawling —Bryan Bonahoom
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| | | | | | | (...) Brian Davis is the competition coordinator for Brickworld's Mindstorms events, so he is the right guy to work with if you have suggestions, desires, ideas, etc. Glad to hear someone is lurking about :) B (17 years ago, 10-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | | | Re: Rock Crawling at BrickWorld —Steve Hassenplug
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| | | | | | (...) We've been talking about this. Rock Crawling offers a couple interesting challenges. The first is to build a Rock Crawling truck, and the second is drive it. The problem is that most of us will be doing a great deal of playing/testing before (...) (17 years ago, 10-Jan-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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| | | | | Re: Rock Crawling —Jean-Marc Détraz
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| | | | (...) Hi My son wanted an "real RC car" so I took the RC buggy body and made a few changes to have a final result. It is a 4x4 truck driven with 2 RC motors, and I adapted the RC steering mechanism for the front drive. It's very large, and quite (...) (17 years ago, 21-Feb-07, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc)
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