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What would YOU like to see from TECHNIC?
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Hi all,

I’ve got a question for all TECHNIC enthusiasts out there... six questions, really. What types of TECHNIC vehicles would you like to see?

I’ve created six polls on LUGNET, each with 3 or 4 choices for a given price range. Now’s a good time to let LEGO hear your voice - please let us know which type of vehicle you’d prefer in a given price range.

This is an informal community poll, there are no guarantees that the top scorers will actually be made into TECHNIC sets at some point. However, it’s important for the company to see what its consumers prefer, of course. Thanks for your votes!

TECHNIC Poll 1: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €129.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 2: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €79.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 3: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €49.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 4: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €49.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 5: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €29.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 6: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €19.99 range?

Thank you,
Kelly McKiernan, LEGO TECHNIC Webmaster


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Re: What would YOU like to see from TECHNIC?
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In lugnet.lego.announce, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
Hi all,

I've got a question for all TECHNIC enthusiasts out there... six questions,
really. What types of TECHNIC vehicles would {you} like to see?

I'm not the world's biggest Technic fan, I will admit that.  But I've been a
Technic (a.k.a. Expert Builder) fan for a while and still have my original #853
Auto Chassis, #854 Go-kart and #850 Fork Lift.  I also have a handful of newer
Technic models including (but not limited to) #8444 the Air Enforcer and #8250
the yellow sub.

I went through and answered each of your polls, but in doing so I noticed one
thing.  Of all the models offered in the polls one was a helicopter, three were
personal vehicles (go-kart, ATV and a motorcycle) while the remainder were all
one form or another of construction or agricultural equipment. The current
offering of Technic models on LEGO.com mirrors this ratio to some degree. The
category with the largest number of models is 'Construction' while the smallest
category is 'Speed'.

Now, before I give the wrong idea I want to stress that I love the way that LEGO
Technic models are able to dulplicate some of the realistic functions found on
cranes, bulldozers, tractors etc. But on the other hand, I wonder if it's at all
possible to look at releasing more models that aren't specifically tied to
construction or farming.  What kinds of models might those be?  Here are a few
random ideas, in no particular order:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadair_CL-415
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-64_Skycrane
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moller_Skycar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:957bWoU.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/marylin90504/image/50656911 (*)

I'm sure there are other things that could be brainstormed to go on a list like
that, but those are just some ideas off the top of my head - before I've had any
coffee!

As noted above, I think showcasing Technic's ability to recreate realistic
functions is a fantastic thing and for that you'll always want to have some
construction and farming vehicles.  But maybe somewhere along the way there's
room for other subject matter too.  :)

All the best,
Allan B.

(*) Not the best pic of a rail dragster, but you get the idea.  :)


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Re: What would YOU like to see from TECHNIC?
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random ideas, in no particular order:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadair_CL-415
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-64_Skycrane
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moller_Skycar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:957bWoU.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/marylin90504/image/50656911 (*)


When I was 14 years old or so, I would make expert builder style race cars in
every color I could. Then I could play out a realistic race with all the cars. I
even made a movie with them in school, I wish I could get a hold of that! What
about a single chassis design, and a choice of many body colors, in the $20
range. Make some colors "limited", to make them more sought after ;). LEGO did
something similar with a ferarri set, but the set included both yellow and red.
Darren


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Re: What would YOU like to see from TECHNIC?
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In lugnet.lego.announce, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
   Hi all,

I’ve got a question for all TECHNIC enthusiasts out there... six questions, really. What types of TECHNIC vehicles would you like to see? Thank you,
Kelly McKiernan, LEGO TECHNIC Webmaster

It’s hard take a poll like this without more info. I like all sorts of vehicles, but I’m more interested in what’s in the sets- what parts, what functions, what colors, etc. The 8275 Bulldozer wouldn’t be much of an inspiration, except it’s got all that great stuff in it.


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Re: What would YOU like to see from TECHNIC?
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What would I like to see from TECHNIC? Something different. Something beautiful and elegant and mechanically complex and not another vehicle. Perhaps a mechanical calculator. Or a kinetic sculpture.

Of course, I fully understand that the target audience may be more interested in vehicles but, as the question was addressed to ME, I want something new and unique.

Regards,

Tom


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Re: What would YOU like to see from TECHNIC?
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"Thomas Johnson" <aklego@mac.com> wrote in message
news:JpEJLo.4q9@lugnet.com...
What would I like to see from TECHNIC?  Something different.  Something
beautiful and elegant and mechanically complex and not another vehicle.
Perhaps
a mechanical calculator.  Or a kinetic sculpture.

Of course, I fully understand that the target audience may be more
interested in
vehicles but, as the question was addressed to ME, I want something new
and
unique.

Regards,

Tom

Amen!

-Rob
www.brickmodder.net
www.lifelites.com


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Re: What would YOU like to see from TECHNIC?
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In lugnet.technic, Allan Bedford wrote:
In lugnet.lego.announce, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
Hi all,

I've got a question for all TECHNIC enthusiasts out there... six questions,
really. What types of TECHNIC vehicles would {you} like to see?

I wonder if it's at all possible to look at releasing more models that
aren't specifically tied to construction or farming.  What kinds of models
might those be?  Here are a few random ideas, in no particular order:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadair_CL-415
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-64_Skycrane
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moller_Skycar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:957bWoU.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/marylin90504/image/50656911 (*)

I'm sure there are other things that could be brainstormed to go on a list
like that, but those are just some ideas off the top of my head - before
I've had any coffee!

As noted above, I think showcasing Technic's ability to recreate realistic
functions is a fantastic thing and for that you'll always want to have some
construction and farming vehicles.  But maybe somewhere along the way
there's room for other subject matter too.  :)

All the best,
Allan B.

I totaly agrea. How many cranes has been released over the years? I've got quit
a few my self and exept for the obvious reason of getting more/new parts they
aren't that interesting any more. 8480 (http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8480) comes
to mind as a great Technic set that was very original. Now I'm a total space nut
my self so I'd love to se more on that theme. But realy it's just an other
example of one of many categories that aren't directly related to construction
or farming.


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Re: What would YOU like to see from TECHNIC?
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In lugnet.lego.announce, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
   Hi all,

I’ve got a question for all TECHNIC enthusiasts out there... six questions, really. What types of TECHNIC vehicles would you like to see?

I’ve created six polls on LUGNET, each with 3 or 4 choices for a given price range. Now’s a good time to let LEGO hear your voice - please let us know which type of vehicle you’d prefer in a given price range.

This is an informal community poll, there are no guarantees that the top scorers will actually be made into TECHNIC sets at some point. However, it’s important for the company to see what its consumers prefer, of course. Thanks for your votes!

TECHNIC Poll 1: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €129.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 2: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €79.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 3: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €49.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 4: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €49.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 5: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €29.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 6: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €19.99 range?

Thank you,
Kelly McKiernan, LEGO TECHNIC Webmaster

Ah finally. It’s great to see that lego want to know what we want when it comes to lego TECHNIC.

However for me it is not only about the chosen inspiration for a model, but what functionality and parts (especially new function orientated parts) are in that set. I would really like to see realistic live axles with drive/steering/suspention in a technic set. There are many many more ideas in a thread called “technic, what happened to the good old days?” I would really recommend reading this thread.

As for the insirations for models in that poll I was not that exited on the whole. Farming equipment is soooooooooooooo boring. Tractor goes forward, tractor goes back. tractor goes forward, tractor turns left. That fine for a tiny technic model but a larger model should offer much more than that. Here is my list of models that I think would be good starting points for sets.


Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €129.99 range?

Sea king rescue helicoptor (including fully functional cyclic/collective/tail rotor pitch controls for both pilots, motor, winch)

JCB back hoe (including motorized air compressor/4 wheel drive/engine, longer pneumatics, steering, tilting front axle)

Super car (including 6 speed+revease gearbox with gear stick linkages, V8/10 engine, suspention, steering)

Truck/crane (including 4 live axles, 8 wheel drive (motorised), 4 wheel steering, suspention)

Monster truck (including live axles, suspention, 4 wheel drive, 4 wheel steering, gearbox, engine, motorised)

Excavator (incuding motorised air compressor/tracks/engine/superstructure rotation, much longer pneumatics, steering via gearbox)



Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €79.99 range?

Monster truck (including live axles, suspention, 4 wheel drive, 4 wheel steering, gearbox, engine, can be motorised)

Motorbike (including in-line 4 engine, gearbox, front and rear suspention, working brakes, steering)

Family car (including engine, gearbox, suspention, steering, can be motorised)

Garbage/tipper truck (including live axles, steering, suspention, engine, longer pneumatics)



Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €49.99 range?

Dragster (including motor, engine, steering)

Helicopter (including fully funtional cyclic control, can me motorised)

Trike (including front and rear suspention, engine, steering)

Dune buggy (including 4 wheel drive, steering, suspention, engine, can be motorised)

Tow truck (including motor, winch, steering, engine)



Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €39.99 range?

Twin prop plane (including twin engines, fully functional alearons, can be motorised)

Motorbike (including front and rear suspention, V-twin engine, steering)

Forklift truck (including longer pneumatic, steering)

Quad bike (including front and rear suspention, steering, engine)

Universal set (including motor)



Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €29.99 range?

Prop plane (including engine, working alearons)

Go-cart (including engine, steering)

Cable car (including motor)

Universal set



Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €19.99 range?

Beach buggy (including steering)

Trike (including engine)

Motorbike (including pull-back-and-go feature)


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Re: What would YOU like to see from TECHNIC?
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In lugnet.lego.announce, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
   Hi all,

I’ve got a question for all TECHNIC enthusiasts out there... six questions, really. What types of TECHNIC vehicles would you like to see?

I’ve created six polls on LUGNET, each with 3 or 4 choices for a given price range. Now’s a good time to let LEGO hear your voice - please let us know which type of vehicle you’d prefer in a given price range.

This is an informal community poll, there are no guarantees that the top scorers will actually be made into TECHNIC sets at some point. However, it’s important for the company to see what its consumers prefer, of course. Thanks for your votes!

This could also be done in one of the lower price brackets:

ROSCO


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I'll third that!
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Allan's suggestions are all excellent.  I've never been a big Technic
builder/collector either, but the ones that I bought were the ones that DIDN'T
fall within the usual vehicle selections of cranes & farming equipment.  The
#8480 Space Shuttle is a perfect example.  It appealed to Technic fans AND Space
fans!  Win-win!

I'd like to see a much wider range of vehicles, perhaps an F-18 Hornet from the
Blue Angels, which would skirt TLG's desire not to portray military vehicles in
their service paint job.  Technic fans have been drowning in crane trucks,
4x4's, bikes and tractors for YEARS.  It's time to expand the field to include
new vehicles and new building challenges.

I'd also really like to see Technic sets that don't necessarily have a
real-world basis.  You could create sets based on licensed or original TLG
themes that would not only provide new design choices but present a more
integrated marketing approach by producing sets and themes that can appeal to a
much wider age range.

Dave S.


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Re: What would YOU like to see from TECHNIC?
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Well since I already own hundreds of technic sets, most of them vehicles, I would like to something else than *vehicles*. The old control center sets brought us a pen plotter and robotic T-Rex... How about a working clock? Factory+conveyor? Better yet, how about a new Idea Book? The last one was in 1991!

But if we’re limiting ourselves to vehicles, how about a new Supercar, with working gearbox and transmission? The last fully functional one was the 8466 Off roader, and that’s six years ago. How about a motorized, floating boat? I’d also like to see a military tank, VTOL combat plane, or any WW2 stuff, but I’ll probably die before seeing one of those from Lego.

I’d also like to see a fully functional bicycle, with changing gears and working brakes. The one new Lego part that is really needed is ultra-large bicycle wheels; the current ones are too small to allow for such complex mechanism in such a tiny space.


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I totaly agrea. How many cranes has been released over the years? I've got quit
a few my self and exept for the obvious reason of getting more/new parts they
aren't that interesting any more. 8480 (http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8480) comes
to mind as a great Technic set that was very original. Now I'm a total space nut
my self so I'd love to se more on that theme. But realy it's just an other
example of one of many categories that aren't directly related to construction
or farming.
There was also a technic model of the Mars Rover which was pretty good.


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None of the models in those polls are particularly appealing to me.
I second what others have said about space models.

Another idea would be to take the jet aircraft from 4953 Fast Flyers and
make a large technic model. Have rotating wings, landing gear that goes up
and down, cockpit that opens and closes and so on. Presumably whatever LEGO
did with 4953 to make it fit with their "no military" rule could also be
done to such a technic set. I know I would be interested in one.

As for motorcycles, how about a chopper style bike (with the really long
front part)


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Re: What would YOU like to see from TECHNIC?
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Something else that would be cool would be a Chinook or similar
double-rotor helicopter. Doesn't need to be military, there are civilian
versions of the Chinook and other double rotor helis out there.


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I’m not a huge fan of technic sets. My neighbor is =) I have my share of robotics and I’ve bought a few technic sets. I’ve recently been buying all the old RC sets, 5 or so years ago I bought some RC technic cars from radioshack and they were tons of fun, so I thought I would buy some more, 3 more bought and the old ones are still the best lego has shown me, even the newest ones dont seem to have the speed and great peices that the old set(8376) had.

I would love to see ANY new sets that can compare to this old set, especially in the $70-$80 range. I’m very happy I bought them when I did and I hope to find more like this, thanks!


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I’d like to see a starfighter with Technic fig, farm tractors with technic fig, and machine shop tools (drill presses, lathes, vise, press, etc. to technic fig scale. Maybe each machine as a small set separately to build up your own size machine shop. Howbout a golf cart with two technic figs & buildable clubs & “bag”? A motorcycle, a three-wheel car or a monowheel with Technic fig sounds cool. By the way, bring back technic figs :) A pick-up truck, or ‘regular’ sedan would be different from all race cars, but race cars sell, so, an Indy car with technic fig & spare tires & gas can & tools (technic scale pit stop) would be nice. A steamroller or Concrete Mixer with panels or plates for the drum parts would be interesting. (with technic fig).

Jeff


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Re: What would YOU like to see from TECHNIC?
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In lugnet.technic, Thomas Johnson wrote:
   What would I like to see from TECHNIC? Something different. Something beautiful and elegant and mechanically complex and not another vehicle. Perhaps a mechanical calculator. Or a kinetic sculpture.

Of course, I fully understand that the target audience may be more interested in vehicles but, as the question was addressed to ME, I want something new and unique.

Regards,

Tom

I agree with Tom, I grok how a Babbage Engine might be a hard sell;(1) but I am sure there are a few million things other than something with four wheels, that has play value.

lego spriograph type toy

lego etch-a-sketch

lego GBC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SeaNK94QZA



how about a Lego “robot”, or some of the stuff harking back to the “cyberslam” toys.

Chris

1. “Mommy, can you bye me this; its a Babbage engine.” “Now, now dear, you know your father said no internal combustions engines in the house”


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Re: What would YOU like to see from TECHNIC?
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In lugnet.lego.announce, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
   Hi all,

I’ve got a question for all TECHNIC enthusiasts out there... six questions, really. What types of TECHNIC vehicles would you like to see?

I’ve created six polls on LUGNET, each with 3 or 4 choices for a given price range. Now’s a good time to let LEGO hear your voice - please let us know which type of vehicle you’d prefer in a given price range.


Hi Kelly,

As a regular buyer of Lego (Technic is my favourite) the three things I consider when looking at a new set (not in any order):
1. Functionality. What does this model do?
2. Useful pieces/colors. What else could I make?
3. Design. Does it look interesting to build?

Balanced against all these is what price I pay, though this picks my buying priority, not the choice of sets. I bought 2 Bulldozers within the first week of release.

It seems a large portion of the poll choices are recient technic sets or close derivities. Eg: 8275, 8421, 8436, 8282. Unless there are strong reasons (#1,#2,#3) I would be unlikely to buy, say another type of bulldozer :)

So rather than dwell on the negatives, here are some of the vehicles I’d like to see...
Elevating Scraper
Wheeled Material Handler
Grader
Skid Steer Loader (larger than 8418)

Other vehicle Ideas:
Helicopter with tilting blades
Monster Truck
Delivery van/ute chassis (fwd/gearbox/suspension)


Non vehicle ideas:
GBC modules
Detailed large scale V8 engine (try a rotary for a challange!)


   Thank you,
Kelly McKiernan, LEGO TECHNIC Webmaster

Thank you for wanting to know :)

Ha!, you probably didn’t want to know all of the above
I guess that’s what happens when a Rabid Fan of Lego(RFL) is asked for an opinion :)


Chris.


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Re: What would YOU like to see from TECHNIC?
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In lugnet.lego.announce, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
Hi all,

I've got a question for all TECHNIC enthusiasts out there... six questions,
really. What types of TECHNIC vehicles would {you} like to see?
...snip...


I'll give LEGO a real challenge:
Do you remember the model in technic ideas book 8889 pages 38-41? That model was
build with parts from sets 8848, 8859 and 8860.
What if LEGO comes up with a few models (3 or 4) for example in price range €50,
that can be put together to one huge model. Not a roughly finished model (like
the one from 8889), but a really good looking model. Building instructions for
that bigger model can be placed on their webpage.
The challenge? Each of these 3 or 4 new sets should contain at least one special
part, so that the big model can ONLY be built if you have bought all the smaller
sets. Everyone can download the building instructions, but you can only build it
if you have all the right pieces (the other ones can only drool on the images of
a great looking model...).

Maarten


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Re: What would YOU like to see from TECHNIC?
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In lugnet.lego.announce, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
   Hi all,

I’ve got a question for all TECHNIC enthusiasts out there... six questions, really. What types of TECHNIC vehicles would you like to see?

I’ve created six polls on LUGNET, each with 3 or 4 choices for a given price range. Now’s a good time to let LEGO hear your voice - please let us know which type of vehicle you’d prefer in a given price range.

This is an informal community poll, there are no guarantees that the top scorers will actually be made into TECHNIC sets at some point. However, it’s important for the company to see what its consumers prefer, of course. Thanks for your votes!

TECHNIC Poll 1: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €129.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 2: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €79.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 3: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €49.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 4: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €49.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 5: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €29.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 6: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €19.99 range?

Thank you,
Kelly McKiernan, LEGO TECHNIC Webmaster

I think helicopters are a great idea. How about a Sikorsky Skycrane? You get the rotor actions, plus you could include multiple ‘payloads’ with winching action and that could serve as their own models. In fact, look at this incredible picture: Skycrane carrying two Hueys

A helicopter lifting two other helos! Awesome!

Roy


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Re: What would YOU like to see from TECHNIC?
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I'll give LEGO a real challenge:
Do you remember the model in technic ideas book 8889 pages 38-41? That model was
build with parts from sets 8848, 8859 and 8860.
Been done before, see:
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?S=tsuper-1
It was released in 1991 and used parts from 8024 universal set, 8815
speedway bandit and 8820 mountain rambler


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Hmm, Euros. Who thinks in Euros? ;-)

Tim


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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Tim David wrote:
   Hmm, Euros. Who thinks in Euros? ;-)

lol What’d I’d like to see from Technic is an official pronunciation pronouncement:-)

(tech-neekers should all be termeenated)

JOHN


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Re: What would YOU like to see from TECHNIC?
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In lugnet.technic, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
I'll give LEGO a real challenge:
Do you remember the model in technic ideas book 8889 pages 38-41? That model was
build with parts from sets 8848, 8859 and 8860.
Been done before, see:
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?S=tsuper-1
It was released in 1991 and used parts from 8024 universal set, 8815
speedway bandit and 8820 mountain rambler

I don't agree with you:
1) This is not what I call a "great looking model".
2) It is not in the price range of 4 x €50 (I'm talking about a bigger model
than for example 8275 or 8421!!)
3) This model doesn't require any special elements at all. You don't really need
these 3 sets to be able to build this model.

Maarten


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   Hi all,

I’ve got a question for all TECHNIC enthusiasts out there... six questions, really. What types of TECHNIC vehicles would you like to see?


OK - voted for my favs!

I chose construction vehicles with cranes and excavators having most favored status. I hope whatever the ultimate selections are, that more studded beams and less panels will be utilized ala the Technic Shuttle set:








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Well, I would buy all the sets in Polls 2, 3, & 4.

But want I REALLY want to see from Technic is a return to the original Technic BRICK construction system - no more silly beams without studs

Paul Sinasohn LUGNET #115 BAYLUG


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In lugnet.lego.announce, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
   Hi all,

I’ve got a question for all TECHNIC enthusiasts out there... six questions, really. What types of TECHNIC vehicles would you like to see?

I’ve created six polls on LUGNET, each with 3 or 4 choices for a given price range. Now’s a good time to let LEGO hear your voice - please let us know which type of vehicle you’d prefer in a given price range.

This is an informal community poll, there are no guarantees that the top scorers will actually be made into TECHNIC sets at some point. However, it’s important for the company to see what its consumers prefer, of course. Thanks for your votes!

TECHNIC Poll 1: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €129.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 2: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €79.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 3: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €49.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 4: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €49.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 5: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €29.99 range?

TECHNIC Poll 6: Which TECHNIC model(s) would you buy in the €19.99 range?

Thank you,
Kelly McKiernan, LEGO TECHNIC Webmaster

For me the new bulldozer marks a return to some studded building, which in my opinion is welcomed. So far there have been some good suggestions. What about some process line plant, that would manipulate a object on a conveyer and maybe put it in a box. Or even a card board box folder, using pneumatics, and some control electronics? Why doesn’t Lego Technic take us to the fairground and give us some complex sun and planetary motions and G forces.... And lets see if we can make the Technic figs vomit!!!


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In lugnet.technic, Mervyn Tomb wrote:

What about some process line plant, that would manipulate an
object on a conveyer and maybe put it in a box... Why doesn't
Lego Technic take us to the fairground and give us some
complex sun and planetary motions and G forces...

I think we've gone very far beyond the "vote for some of these stock models"
point of the original post, but as long as we've gone there... <grin>...

I would love to see an "assembly line" style Technic series (each kit does
something on it's own, but buying more than one allows you to link them together
to make something more complex in an automated fashion). The question is if you
can do this without "electronic" automation (without the NXt for instance),
which would really drive the price up.

Another option I think might actually sell well (in addition to being fun for
AFoLs... not always the same thing ;-) ), is GBC modules. I've had no end of fun
building and displaying these, but perhaps more important it seems to have
caught on with kids and school groups. And, again, you could make a number of
them that follow the standard, and the more modules your have, the more fun you
can have arranging them... Toss in 10 balls per module, and your soccer ball
supply is self-sufficient as you buy new modules.

--
Brian Davis


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Hi,

I’ve never been a big Technic fan, but I’ve bought a few sets over the years and my next major LEGO purchase will probably be that big yellow RC bulldozer.

I’ve always been interested in incorprating technic elements into minifig scale creations, and thought the motorised red Creator helicopter was a tremendous set. I’d also love to see Micromtors return to system sets.

I know TLG like to avoid contemporary military sets, but I will say that I think something like this would make an absolutely brilliant Technic set.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:M60A1ArmoredVehicleLandingBridge.jpg


I agree that not all Technic sets have to be vehicles - the new Creator dinosaur is a great set.

cheers

Magnus


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In lugnet.technic, Brian Davis wrote:

Another option I think might actually sell well (in addition to being fun for
AFoLs... not always the same thing ;-) ), is GBC modules. I've had no end of fun
building and displaying these, but perhaps more important it seems to have
caught on with kids and school groups. And, again, you could make a number of
them that follow the standard, and the more modules your have, the more fun you
can have arranging them... Toss in 10 balls per module, and your soccer ball
supply is self-sufficient as you buy new modules.

This, of course, is great idea, but these days we come to except such things
from Brian.

I've got to believe that some simple modules could be priced very affordably,
perhaps in the $15-$30 range.  More complex ones, of course, could be priced
higher.

But the hook-them-together-ness would be a great selling point.  It would be
most cool.


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In lugnet.technic, Brian Davis wrote:

I would love to see an "assembly line" style Technic series (each kit does
something on it's own, but buying more than one allows you to link them together
to make something more complex in an automated fashion). The question is if you
can do this without "electronic" automation (without the NXt for instance),
which would really drive the price up.

I think the idea of models that perform some direct mechanical function is a
good one. As a child, I remember being immensely pleased with the "fan" I built
from http://peeron.com/inv/sets/8020-1 - it was just powered by a hand crank.
That example is hardly as sophisticated as an assembly line, but the idea of
making some kind of game or system out of each individual device seems like a
viable way to market a series of kits.

Jim


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In lugnet.lego.announce, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
   Hi all,

I’ve got a question for all TECHNIC enthusiasts out there... six questions, really. What types of TECHNIC vehicles would you like to see?

snip

According to what I have been reading so far, people need many realistic functions on their models. I am of the same view. Many have also expressed a wish of a cross-theme type of model (i.e. space shuttle). the space shuttle was great because it has many function with only one motor (excluding the satellite). The bar code truck was also using clever building technics to provide many function at a flick of a switch.

Now, as far as idea goes, I am probably looking at $129 sets. More on that: since Lego is now producing extremely large ($$$) Star Wars set, why not producing large Technic Sets.

Here are my three suggestions:

1- Been mentioned but an helicopter with collective, cyclic and tail pitch all linked to lever, joystick and pedals would be good.

2- A plane. Any type will do but with all movable control surfaces (aileron, tail, elevator but also flaps and directional frontwheel) all linked to a workable yoke. Trim would probably to difficult to attach to a trim wheel inside the cockpit but a regular lego hinge should at least provide more details. If you want to go really complicated you can also do variable pitch propeller. A tricycle setup would be nice as it would need new pieces to attach the back wheels properly. There could also be an internet plan if someone bought twice the set to build a twin engine plane with all function and retractable gear (still with a steering front wheel). Float with retractable wheels and rudder cable linked to cabin control would be also very good.

3- And finally: A train. The biggest group of fan here I believe is train. Why not build a 12-14 wide locomotive with all the linkage. Wheels would have to have limited suspension and leeway to move around curves (this would not be necessary really but just to ensure proper realism) I envision a locomotice suspended just slightly above a moc-track where pneumatic pistons would work the wheels through proper linkage. Hidden inside the boiler there would be a series of compressor to work the pistons (would need many compressors i.e. 8868 to achieve proper compression and speed to be interesting - on that front, a ‘compressor’ module directly attachable to the new XL motor would be good). More importantly, there would be a lever inside the cabin that would control the forward neutral and backward direction. Breaks would also be needed. Wheels would be 6-8 studs high and the proper metal weight for the wheels would also have to be created. Specifically speaking this would not do much really and would actually be static that is why realism would be somewhat important - A cross between technic and model team I suppose. A model to put on the mantle piece and just watch in amazement!

Potential add-on: on top of the potential compressor for the xl motor, a surmultiplication transmission would be good and would work nice on the helicopter mentioned above.

That’s all!!!

  
Thank you,
Kelly McKiernan, LEGO TECHNIC Webmaster


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In lugnet.technic, Eric Lanteigne wrote:
  
3- And finally: A train. The biggest group of fan here I believe is train. Why not build a 12-14 wide locomotive with all the linkage. Wheels would have to have limited suspension and leeway to move around curves (this would not be necessary really but just to ensure proper realism) I envision a locomotice suspended just slightly above a moc-track where pneumatic pistons would work the wheels through proper linkage. Hidden inside the boiler there would be a series of compressor to work the pistons (would need many compressors i.e. 8868 to achieve proper compression and speed to be interesting - on that front, a ‘compressor’ module directly attachable to the new XL motor would be good). More importantly, there would be a lever inside the cabin that would control the forward neutral and backward direction. Breaks would also be needed. Wheels would be 6-8 studs high and the proper metal weight for the wheels would also have to be created. Specifically speaking this would not do much really and would actually be static that is why realism would be somewhat important - A cross between technic and model team I suppose. A model to put on the mantle piece and just watch in amazement!

Potential add-on: on top of the potential compressor for the xl motor, a surmultiplication transmission would be good and would work nice on the helicopter mentioned above.

Great idea! You could even go for an unusual loco, like a Hagan’s linkage.

ROSCO


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In lugnet.lego.announce, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
   Hi all,

I’ve got a question for all TECHNIC enthusiasts out there... six questions, really. What types of TECHNIC vehicles would you like to see?

I’ve created six polls on LUGNET, each with 3 or 4 choices for a given price range. Now’s a good time to let LEGO hear your voice - please let us know which type of vehicle you’d prefer in a given price range.

This is an informal community poll, there are no guarantees that the top scorers will actually be made into TECHNIC sets at some point. However, it’s important for the company to see what its consumers prefer, of course. Thanks for your votes! Thank you,
Kelly McKiernan, LEGO TECHNIC Webmaster

Hi Kelly, thanks for dropping in. I didn’t vote becasue i would buy anything. I deliberate on aspects such as parts and colour availability but the end result is a purchase. Even if it contains blue axle pins. I think you should produce all those products on each of those price ranges.

I will say i missed the demise of technic starwars. When the new starwars kits came out a few years ago, i was dissapointed that the technic starwars kits didn’t follow. they were great. I also missed the demise of expansion packs for mindstorms. Ferrari and Racers have been popular technic products, would be great to see some sci-fi stuff. the mars rover (although not sci-fi) had heaps of functions that didn’t really do anything just like exo-force. it was great.

I think potential exists for heavier utilisation of licensing. I would love to see a harry potter car as the next technic super car or a batmobile or an Indianna Jones Car!

Well, thanks for that and good luck with your poll.

Steve


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Here are a few of my ideas: - robotic arm (advanced version of set #8094) - carnival rides (set #4957 is a good start) - areal cable car (similar to the one in idea book #8889) - remote controlled hovercraft (could be moving around on wheels) - airplane with working control surfaces and landing gear - working steam locomotive - 18 wheeler (similar to set #8285) - 2-legged walking robot (similar to Asimu) - draw bridge - medieval catapult - 6 ft tall Eiffel Tower (similar to set #10181)


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In lugnet.technic, Stephane Simard wrote:
   Well since I already own hundreds of technic sets, most of them vehicles, I would like to something else than *vehicles*. The old control center sets brought us a pen plotter and robotic T-Rex... How about a working clock? Factory+conveyor?

I’ll second this request for something other than vehicles. There are heaps of interesting machines out there that don’t have wheels. Personally I’ve always wanted a working Lego Jacquard Loom.



   Better yet, how about a new Idea Book? The last one was in 1991!

Hear hear!

Cheers Tim.


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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Tim David wrote:
   Hmm, Euros. Who thinks in Euros? ;-)

lol What’d I’d like to see from Technic is an official pronunciation pronouncement:-)

The way I’ve heard it pronounced by the team is TECH-nick. But that’s not necessarily canon.

Kelly


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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.fun, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Tim David wrote:
   Hmm, Euros. Who thinks in Euros? ;-)

lol What’d I’d like to see from Technic is an official pronunciation pronouncement:-)

The way I’ve heard it pronounced by the team is TECH-nick. But that’s not necessarily canon.

You are too modest, Kelly! By the authority bestowed upon you through your cool new little LEGO avatar, I take that as Gospel! :-)

We are no longer the AFOLs who say “neek”!

Now, on to how to pronounce Scala....

JOHN


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In lugnet.technic, Stump Dunn wrote:
   I also missed the demise of expansion packs for mindstorms.

Ah yes. Thous I realy miss and hope we get to see something similar for the NXT. Ultimate Builder 3800 and Exploration Mars 9736 are my favorites.


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I whole heartedly agree.  In fact, I don't think I will be buying anymore
sets unless I see a return to the basics.  I *might* buy the 8275 Bulldozer
but it too seems to have too many studless beams and liftarms for my taste.





"Paul Sinasohn" <singlow2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JpGEox.17L@lugnet.com...
Well, I would buy all the sets in Polls 2, 3, & 4.

But want I REALLY want to see from Technic is a return to the original
Technic
BRICK construction system - no more silly beams without studs

Paul Sinasohn
LUGNET #115
BAYLUG


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In lugnet.lego.announce, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
   Hi all, • ((info)) Kelly McKiernan, LEGO TECHNIC Webmaster

I would like to see Technic versions of classic Space/Town sets... 6950, 6861, 452, etc. Kind of an “all-growed-up” version.

Failing that, it would be neat to walk into a store and see a minifig-scale model of (something) then on the shelf above it, see the exact same (something) in Technic.

I don’t necessarily mind farm equipment or construction Technic, but would like to see something beyond “Lift truck! Crane! Crane lift truck! Truck crane lift!”


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In lugnet.technic, Brian Davis wrote:
In lugnet.technic, Mervyn Tomb wrote:

What about some process line plant, that would manipulate an
object on a conveyer and maybe put it in a box... Why doesn't
Lego Technic take us to the fairground and give us some
complex sun and planetary motions and G forces...

I think we've gone very far beyond the "vote for some of these stock models"
point of the original post, but as long as we've gone there... <grin>...

I would love to see an "assembly line" style Technic series (each kit does
something on it's own, but buying more than one allows you to link them together
to make something more complex in an automated fashion). The question is if you
can do this without "electronic" automation (without the NXt for instance),
which would really drive the price up.

Another option I think might actually sell well (in addition to being fun for
AFoLs... not always the same thing ;-) ), is GBC modules. I've had no end of fun
building and displaying these, but perhaps more important it seems to have
caught on with kids and school groups. And, again, you could make a number of
them that follow the standard, and the more modules your have, the more fun you
can have arranging them... Toss in 10 balls per module, and your soccer ball
supply is self-sufficient as you buy new modules.

Before reading the poll's and the replies, I was going to say "machines of the
industrial revolution".  But then I saw a poll that gives me N choices of
crane.... yawn.

How about a lathe with a hot-wire tool that can turn shapes in foam?  How about
a milling machine that can mill soft wax?  How about a loom that can weave
standard knitting yarn? How about a model bottling line than pushes 1x1 plates
onto the tops of 1x1 bricks (or model bottles)? A drill press?


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No shortage of crane options. I like that :-) How about a large pedestal-mounted crane?





Now I’m biased because I built one :-)



But this sort of model lends itself well to RC’ing, particularly with a 4-function control (i.e. just like the new power functions bulldozer - hint, hint). It’s neat to set up a model like this and play. Put it on a desk and sit back and have fun.

I really liked set 8288 (http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8288). LEGO did very well, I think. I was so impressed that I bought several copies of this set. But I think a larger version is needed - perhaps in the $130 - 150 ‘size’ range. That would be very cool.

I think LEGO needs an extremely large technic set. Thinking outside the normal range of sets (for Technic), what about a $200 - 300 set with 3000 - 4000 pieces?


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I agree! A really big Lego Technic model in the price range of $200 - $500 would be awesome.


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In lugnet.lego.announce, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
   Hi all,

I’ve got a question for all TECHNIC enthusiasts’ out there... six questions, Really. What types of TECHNIC vehicles would you like to see?


After reading all of the posted replies to what “we” the enthusiasts would want to see from Lego Technic I wish to go on record supporting some of my colleges vehicle ideas and list a few of my own. However, as per several of the posted replies it should be noted that not all kits must be large to ultimately be regarded as a decent model. The key aspect to any model is functionality (one of Technic Lego’s most important design attributes). The models size should be reflective of the machine it is to represent. How the machine operates should be captured within the toys capability. To omit certain actions of a machine just to scale it up or down somehow seems wrong. The model should do what its realistic counterpart is meant to do. Its size should be extrapolated based upon what the connected bricks can ultimately achieve in a realistic form. So please don’t just go trying to make a kit bigger so “we” can have more pieces on the shelf. Instead, make us all appreciate the true ingenuity behind the minds of the Lego Technic design team by forcing us, “the customers” to always enjoy what you develop next.

I suggest the following kit idea;

Stationary windmill / wind turbine Telescope – with working lenses Helicopter – dual rotor CH-47 Chinook (used for search & rescue or Medi-vac) Ship – self unloading North American Great lakes class Street Cleaner / Street sweeper Scissor jack – portable man lift platform used on construction sites


I support the following kit ideas with the noted modifications;

Cement mixer truck – with working chute & self unloading slinger conveyor Family Car – reworked as Mini-Van functional sun roof and folding seats, sliding doors Manufacturing plant – robotic NXT conveyor coordination to produce or do something Skid Steer track machine by Bobcat – done in Black & white with red Bobcat colours


I support the following kit ideas;

Locomotive train engine Hover craft – civilian transport Road grader Compactor (also known as a steam roller 4x4 Pickup Truck (North American configuration)


In conclusion, Many thanks to the entire Lego community for keeping our hobby alive and a sincere thanks you to Kelly McKiernan for posting the opportunity for us all to comment.

Regards,

Tom Netherway


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In lugnet.lego.announce, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
   Hi all,

I’ve got a question for all TECHNIC enthusiasts out there... six questions, really. What types of TECHNIC vehicles would you like to see?

I’d like a Technic figure industrial railway. You could use plastic track but with flat ends so you could make things like rotary dumpers without leaving a gap at the end of the rails. And being plastic it could be left outdoors.

Every year their could be a new wagon, loco, or building released. And their should be a basic track/loco stater set.

Loco’s Battery diesel electric(pantograph)

Wagons Flats Gondola’s Hoppers Difco Sidedump cars

Others Cranes line maintenance equipment

Road/rail Pickups wheeled & tracked excavators

Buildings Unloaders Overhead cranes


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