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In lugnet.general, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> Before reading any more of my reply, remember, I **agree** with you,
Of course you do... why wouldn't you? ;)
Don't worry Larry, I'm not interested in making this into a federal case.
You make good points and I am not going to just pretend that my opinion is
the only one. I certainly don't want to offend anyone who does like this
design. I'm just a tradtionalist when it comes to fire trucks... like we
didn't see that coming. :)
> Although... Nik likes it better than the backhoe. But then, he's 10.
Understood.
> > The real ones are almost
> > painfully flat on their sides.
>
> How about this prototype?
>
> http://thunder.prohosting.com/~arff-2/arff/oshkosh/02.jpg
I can't get that particular URL to load... getting a 404 error.
> maybe they were going for the water tank look? No other explanation for the
> use of those incredibly duff panels I can fathom(1). But if they wanted
> water tanks what would be wrong with using the 1/2 round cylinder (ala
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8250 in yellow) or the 1/4 round cylinder ala
> http://guide.lugnet.com/set/10016 ) instead?
That was the sort of analysis I was hoping for. Just people asking questions
about why this design may have ended up looking like this.
> The lime green color does not stand out against
> > other traffic nearly as well as fire engine red, yellow or ambulance white.
>
> That's a perennial topic, so I hear, in the fire fighting fraternity. (I'm
> not a firehead like some so it's just what I remember) This layman agrees
> with you, red or yellow or white stand out better than lime green, at least
> they do to me. But supposedly studies indicate lime green is a good color.
> Beats me why. I just don't see it that way. And it sure is horrid!
>
> > I think LEGO should have stuck with at least a traditional color when trying
> > out a new design like this.
>
> I agree. Like this design: http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8280 ... an oldie but
> a goodie. (and one I just happen to still have good stocks of in my store)
Here's something I'll bet you never thought you'd hear me say Larry.... I
think this design looks dated. Too old and clunky. It needs to be more
modern looking if you ask me. :)
> > > But as a model, this crash truck... it's nowhere near as good a model as the
> > > backhoe, I'd opine. That one's magnificent. So ya, I agree.
> >
> > It's hardly in the same league. That was why I wondered how it came to be
> > released at the same time as the backhoe. Surely this didn't come from the
> > same design department.
>
> Well, maybe, maybe not. Maybe that design's been in the can for a while and
> just got approved. Maybe their marketeers think the two models (backhoe and
> crash truck) are targeted at different segments and should be at different
> realism levels? Who knows.
All very real possibilities.
> While we're ripping on designs, let's not leave that ore truck out either,
> OK? I'm glad they did an ore truck, mind you, but it's not up to the backhoe
> levels by any means. Sort of reminded me of Znap, actually, when I first saw
> it...
I saw it, but don't have the same feelings for dump trucks that I do for
fire apparatus. :) So I'm less interested in disecting it.
> 1 - except for the "you are going to use some of these parts so we can
> recoup tooling costs for them whether you want to or not" explanation, of course
Frankly... that makes the most sense of anything. This looks like a very
forced design... that is, forced by parts, not forced to meet a realistic
look and feel.
All the best!
Allan B.
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