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Re: how large would the ISD be compared to the Enterprise-D?
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Sat, 19 Oct 2002 04:41:43 GMT
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> You can NOT go based off what the SW.com database has.
> That is not offical!
The website database has been written by an author hired by LFL to write an
official reference (the database) that has been published (also the
database). Therefore, any information contained within that reference (the
database) is as official as any other EU product.
> Mr Lucas himself did NOT enter in the data into the DB. But Mr. Lucas himeself did supervise >and create all the stuff for the movies (ep 4-6).
Supervise, yes. Create, *no*. George Lucas has hundreds of people working
to produce the images seen in the movie. He does not oversee and create
every tiny detail in the movies (although he is *much* more involved in this
respect than most directors are). He has also overseen the development of
the Expanded Universe, and has contributed directly to the Marvel comics,
Splinter of the Mind's Eye, Dark Empire, Shadows of the Empire, the Ewok
television movies, and other products. The line between "Lucas approved"
and "Expanded Universe" is not as clear as some would like to think (there
are several Expanded Universe elements in the movies themselves.)
> At the beginning of the Technical
> Commentaries they state that the ONLY Offical stuff is the movies (since
> Lucas himself did those).
And Dr. Saxton is *wrong* in this respect. "Canon", maybe. But Official
applies to every novel, game, comic, television program, and young readers
book that is not fan fiction. Dr. Saxton tends to pick and choose from
those EU sources that he prefers, rather than taking them all into account.
There is no longer a "Official" order of canon. Films come first, than
everything else. LFL has come out with an "Infinities" label that has been
applied to certain comics, and these are generally not included in
continuity. Every other EU source is part of the continuity. The latest
word on this is from LFL representative Sue Rostoni:
"Things that Lucas Licensing does not consider official parts of the
continuous Star Wars history show an Infinities logo or are contained in
Star Wars Tales. Everything else is considered canon."
To address the outdated "order of canon" further:
> Not quite canon but overruling 'official' sources are:
> -Expansion Novels originally published by Bantam Books
> -Expansion Comics originally published by Dark Horse
You're forgetting the comics published by Marvel (which include the "Star"
titles for younger readers, and the newspaper strips), most of which are
part of the continuity, (Two exceptions are the "Devilworlds" line of UK
comics, and a single issue of the main Marvel line), the early and later Del
Rey novels, as well all of the young readers series and the various picture
books, all of which are part of the continuity.
> Then we have ignored sources:
> -'Droids' comics
> -'Splinter of the Mind's Eye' novel
> -Games (games are balanced to be a fun game so technology is often 'made up',
> although certain story elements could be considered official)
These are most certainly *not* ignored sources, and are indeed part of the
continuity. Many of the storylines introduced by the Droids comics were
expanded on in the young reader's series "Star Wars Missions", which
featured two characters from the series, and "Episode I Adventures" which
explored the pasts of two characters. In addition, a world from these
comics, Karlarba, was featured prominently in the beginning of the adult
novel "Balance Point". Finally, the very latest (2002) edition of the
Essential Guide to Characters included the "Droids" stories in the
biographies of both Artoo and Threepio (and many, many other sources have
referenced these comics, this is only a small sample.)
Splinter of the Mind's Eye is also a part of the continuity. The story
itself was referenced in most of the "Essential Guide to" books and the
"Story of Anakin Skywalker" as well as the databanks. The book appears in
the New Jedi Order timeline, and Dark Horse even produced a comic adaptation
of the story. The world created for the book has been referred to in
everything from the New Jedi Order to Dark Horse's "Republic" Ongoing to the
young reader's series "Jedi Quest".
As for games, about 90% of the games are also considered part of the
continuity (of course, gameplay elements must be taken into account), the
other 10% being stuff like "Super Bombad Racing". Characters from the games
such as Jerec, Keyan Farlander, Kyle Katarn, and Marek Stele have grown
beyond the games to appear in novels, audio dramas, graphic novels, young
readers stories, and magazine articles.
> What about "Chewbacca's Life Day" or whatever it was called? Or that
> Droids cartoon?
I believe you are referring to the 1978 television feature, "The Star Wars
Holiday Special". Despite the cheesy name (and content ;) ) and the bad
press it has received over the years, the "Holiday Special" is part of the
continuity. The Wookiee homeworld Kashyyyk, introduced in the special,
appeared in other Expanded Universe products soon after the special aired.
Russ Manning wrote a story set on the planet ("The Kazhyyyk Depths") for the
newspaper strip, and the world appeared in a children's story book (The
Wookiee Storybook"). A few years later it appeared in Marvel's ongoing Star
Wars line of comics, and when Lucasfilm resurrected the novel line with
Timothy Zhan's Thrawn Trilogy in the early 90's, Kashyyyk appeared again in
the (I believe) second novel of the series. Chewbacca's family, also
created for the special, appeared in the aforementioned storybook and Marvel
comic. When novelist Michael P. Kube-McDowell was to include Chewbacca's
family in his Black Fleet Crisis Trilogy, he was told to use the characters
from the special. Chewie's family has appeared again in many other novels,
and in Dark Horse's "Chewbacca" mini-series. More recently, Chewie's father
was featured in the game Galactic Battlegrounds. In addition, all elements
of the special (characters, locations, story) have been included in nearly
all reference works, and countless games. As a side note, the character of
Boba Fett first appeared in the special (he was created for the
in-production "The Empire Strikes Back" so this doesn't count as an EU
reference.)
The Droid cartoon is also a part of continuity, and can be found in nearly
all reference works concerning Artoo and Threepio.
TC
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