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Re: Mindstorms NXT programming languages
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Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:03:18 GMT
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In lugnet.robotics, dan miller <danbmil99@yahoo.com> wrote:
> What would I like to implement that won't fit in 256K...
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> check out this list of modules from Pyro:
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> # PyroModuleDirectControl
> # PyroModuleSequencingControl
> # PyroModuleBehaviorBasedControl
> # PyroModuleReinforcementLearning
> # PyroModuleNeuralNetworks
> # PyroModuleEvolutionaryAlgorithms
> # PyroModuleComputerVision
> # PyroModuleMapping
> # PyroModuleMultirobot
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> you can dig in here:
> http://pyrorobotics.org/?page=PyroCurriculum
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> Point is, robotics research has gone way beyond line following with a PID.
> Roboticists have dealt with underpowered brains for years. Techniques have
> been worked out to work around that problem, by linking the robot to a more
> powerful brain. That brain is your computer. The link is bluetooth. The
> point of Python, Java, C++, Scheme (http://pyrorobotics.org/?page=Gyro), or
> any other high-level language (something other than C, which is basically
> glorified assembler) is to facilitate the design of complex, flexible
> algorithms that can enable more advanced behavior. What I would like to do
> with Python, or even with some new language (as I explained in a previous
> post), is to get as much autonomous functionality into the NXT as possible,
> and make it easy to do the rest on a remote machine. Imagine the robot
> having a dozen possible behavior patterns, which could be swapped in quickly
> from your laptop, depending on what the robot encounters. It's just an
> application of the trendy field of distributed computing.
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> There's plenty to learn fiddling with lego pieces and RIS (or Labview on
> NXT), but if someone wants to move beyond that into some of the real
> cutting-edge stuff, it would be nice if there was a path to lead them there.
Hi Dan,
Your desire to have cutting edge robotics computing technology at your
fingertips is compelling and *very* understandable. The robotics challenges you
want to overcome sound very interesting. Where you and I differ is expecting to
be able to get these cutting edge robotics computing from LEGO, a toy
manufacturer, at the cost of $250. We have a big disconnect right here.
If the NXT cannot provide what you want, it is a bummer, but it is not LEGO's
problem. LEGO is not trying to make cutting edge research robotics kits.
I hope to be able to push the NXT to its limits, either in August, or earlier
if I can get my hands on an NXT set. I rather enjoy the challenge of living
within constraints, but moreso working around them, and creating magic. I look
forward to hearing about your python progress.
In the future, please do not send copies of your lugnet posts to my email
account. That is a good way to get me to ignore you. I read lugnet early and
often, and don't want extra copies in my email.
Kev
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| hi Kevin -- I think you missed my point. I accept NXT's limitations. What I'm saying is, we *can* do the sorts of things I outline, with the platform as given, if we get enough developers interested in contributing. I was going to post this anyway, (...) (21 years ago, 14-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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| What would I like to implement that won't fit in 256K... check out this list of modules from Pyro: # PyroModuleDirectControl # PyroModuleSequencingControl # PyroModuleBehaviorBasedControl # PyroModuleReinforcementLearning # PyroModuleNeuralNetworks (...) (21 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.robotics)
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