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Re: What is shaping up to be the most posted-on rtl event in the history of rtl events....
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Wed, 17 Sep 2003 17:22:34 GMT
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, David Koudys wrote:
Lets hearken back to the 'good ol' days' when we did a competition a few times
in a row, such as, say, marble sorting and brick stacking.  What would happen
was that a person showed up for said event, attempt it, and, during the course
of the event, realize that, "Hey, my 'bot could do better if I changed this or
that" and the competitor would go home and change this or that and come back to
the next competition to see how the improvements functioned.  As well, other
people who didn't enter a 'bot in the first competition could see how it may
have been attempted and then go home and build an entry for the next
competition.

This sounds good in principle, but I think it really depends on the competition.
I, for one saw lots of room for improvement on my projectX robot. I wanted to
get my anti-X time down to the single digits :) As it turned out, nobody wanted
to do it again, which is fine. Sometimes people just get sick of something even
after the first competition. I think rice is like that. It was so stinking hard
that I'm sure not many people would want to do it again.

That said, the 'rice game' could be an event that could be redone, and there may
be more entries the next time it's attempted (seeing as how I ahve no weddings
on the 31st of January).

If we are going to redo this, I want to know soon, since I am itching to take my
robot apart.

Where Connect 4 is concerned, I think it'd be an interesting game, but like
Bruce, I have doubts about the 'entertainment' value (not that everything comes
down to entertaiment).

Yes, I think this is a problem. We defenitely have to encourage speed in this
game. 30 seconds per move is WAY too long. How about 15 seconds per move?


Project X was exciting for the builders, not so much for
the audience.  Project X was also relatively speedy, being that it was a 4x4
grid.

True, but project X was pretty contrived. Who really cares if a robot can put
blocks into an X pattern?? I think the fact that people can play aginst the
connect 4 robot will make this event much more interesting for the audience.
They will all want to play Chris's robot since they will actually have a chance
of winning.


The bottom line is that I will be purchasing a Connect 4 board and starting to
build a robot for said board asap.  I just think that, all things being equal,
we could probably re-run a past event, and hopefully improve on designs.  I've
entered 3 blockstacking competitions and each 'bot was different, and, as shown,
an improvement on the previous 'bot.

Hmmm... I thought your first robot was pretty darn good. I entered all three
blockstacking competitions, and am still somewhat annoyed that I never did get
my robot working properly. I had lots of potential when teamed up with Steve H,
but we just didn't have the time to fix up the code. Oh well. RIP blockstacking.

Rob



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(...) I'd be into doing project X again, but it would reach the point where we are looking for milli second improvements in time, rather then seconds. I didn't do rice this time, but after watching it I'd be interested in giving it a try. (...) Take (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

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Lets hearken back to the 'good ol' days' when we did a competition a few times in a row, such as, say, marble sorting and brick stacking. What would happen was that a person showed up for said event, attempt it, and, during the course of the event, (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

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