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UGH!!!! what a night. I was up VERY LATE helping bruce put BrickOS on his brick. (start with the left leg of the flame suit, next the right leg, ok, now the pyro jacket, and next, the special pyro gel.) I had not done it up until now, but with (...) (21 years ago, 9-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) not going to happen. It's not that I don't want to. I'd love to explain it, but it's just not simple. First, I suggest you direct your questions to John Hanson (controller of BricxCC) He sounds like he knows what he's talking about. (...) (...) (21 years ago, 9-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) (URL) like Steve's already looking for help for Chris' code! :) Calum (21 years ago, 9-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) <description of flailing deleted> Chris, I've only played with BrickOS a little, but I had good success. This kind of environment is very familiar to me. I use cygwin terminal to get to the directory that contains C examples. I type make. All (...) (21 years ago, 9-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) it's .lx Those are the file you can download to the rcx (21 years ago, 9-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Thanks Steve, Do you know the path to the example files? Kevin (21 years ago, 9-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) C:\cygwin\brickos-0....6.10\demo\ I think. If it's in the wrong place, it doesn't work well. (21 years ago, 9-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) well then. that just CLEARS IT right up!!! let me fire up my ol' UNIX BOX.. hummm, now where did I put that UNIX BOX... oh ya, I remember. I DON'T KNOW UNIX, OR C!!!! and I probably wouldn't go near a cygwin without some rubber gloves. and (...) (21 years ago, 9-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Cygwin is a program that emulates (read: pretends to be) a *nix platform on what's really windows. So you can use a Cygwin platform to run the cross-compiler and downloader and whatever else that otherwise would only work on Linux. So you need (...) (21 years ago, 9-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Chris, I hate to say this, but I think you're still a long weekend away from getting BrickOS working. My suggestion would be for you to find someone who knows how to make it work (like Michael) and invite him over to dinner. When he shows up (...) (21 years ago, 9-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) are you coming to dinner tonight??? I got a lot of this up and installed, but when I launched the (dumbly named) BASH cygwin thing-y, and drilled down to the DEMO directory, I ran the MAKE prg. in theory it should have "done its business" and (...) (21 years ago, 9-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) BAhahahhahahahahahha :) ROTFLMAO!!!!! -- Chris There's no 'I' in 'team'. There's four in 'platitude-quoting idiot'. (21 years ago, 9-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Its actually not THAT hard. If I can figure it out, then anyone can. I actually made a CD for Michael with all of the necessary files and a complete set of instructions. He seemed to have no troubles after that. Rob (21 years ago, 9-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) A very cold breeze... :-) (...) If the "2 files" you mention are the ones I put up on bricxcc.sourceforge.net then the brickos.srec firmware should be installed to the brickos\boot directory. That's where it gets put if you do a full make from (...) (21 years ago, 9-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I have my fingers crossed that you are running an operating system that works with the 2 installer executables I put together. That would NOT be Win98 or Win95. I have heard from people running these operating systems that they get all sorts (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Oh no, Chris would never run any of his systems on antiquated OSes. Ask him what browser he uses too. Please. It starts with an N and ends with 4.7. Calum (21 years ago, 10-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Calum. this goes to show HOW WRONG YOU ARE!!!! my browser ends in 4.7~2~ and FWIW, it is fully compliant with the Browsers as used in a MAJOR TEL-CO called BELL CANADA!!! and WHY is it such a GREAT browser to use. cause no one writes virus's (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) YES IT IS!!!! (...) OH, your one to talk. MR. I'm not entering C$!!! (...) what OS are you using? What OS is michael running. I am using a GREAT OS called win 98SE on my SUPER COMPUTER (tm) and on my not so super laptop.... Chris "It is a (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) OK, this was done. and I have seen it work last night at the dinner. both laptops were using W2K my laptop was a 98se box. we ALL used the easy to get "2 files" as pointed to from your GREAT web page . (...) Sec. OK. (...) OK, if I have done (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Alright, alright. I admit installing BrickOS is a royal pain. I guess after doing it a couple times I got the hang of it. Remember I used BrickOS way back in the days of project X... and I used it again for later robots. (...) Well, I just (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I'm very sure there will be an XR7 class robot at rtl15. (x=rnd(7)) I think it would be very hard to build a complete robot that can scan the board with only one motor. I have a C$ robot with only one motor. We'll see how it does. :) Steve (21 years ago, 10-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Blind them with confusion. Its my job! (...) How have you survived so long with that kind of handicap? (...) Bricxcc is for those who can't...... Kevin (...) Technic, Robotics and CAD are not nearly as interesting. I don't get quoted nearly as (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) The computer nerd in me forces me to respond to this with a bit of evangelising: (URL) the advantages, and none of the disadvatages, of Netscape. And for those who find Mozilla to be bloated and slow, there's Firebird: (URL) (21 years ago, 12-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) You're the one who can't get BrickOS running. :) Calum (21 years ago, 12-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | Quite C and BrickOS (WAS: Re: Steve H, C$, me learning C Brick OS)
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(...) Is there any particular reason why no one seems to be using Francesco Ferrara’s ‘Quite C’ ((URL) not a programmer by calling, so the “finer differences” are neither apparent nor important to me. As far as I can tell QC is basically build on (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I can safely attest to the fact that Fish do not like coffee. As I am right now struggling with a "clean" install of BrickOS..... can you riddle me this: if I install this QC prg, can I compile and D/L c code written for brickos??? Chris (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) You sound as if you've never even heard of QC. That’s rather strange, as one of the few (if not the only one) Mindstorms Connect 4 bots (by Andy Clapham’s: (URL) is programmed in Quite C. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't BrickOS use a (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) OKOKOK you forced it out of me. a few years ago, kate gave me 2 fish for my birthday. (i never asked for fish, we never spoke of fish, i don't really care for fish) so i get these 2 "gold fish" one pink, one blue. so I name them Thelma and (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Well, the general syntax and structure of C are the same. But how you call the motors, sensors and other hardware is different from platform to platform, unless someone deliberately tried to make them all common, which I'm not sure. Think of (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Damn, I'm starting to write like Derek. "I don't think this is trivial" Calum (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) wow calum, I take back some of those nasty things i said about you to the reporter at dinner. your 64 example explained it very well. thanks. so based on what calum said, I wont even bother trying to install QC. cause my marble prg might not (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) What's his number? I have to retract my "how we met and started the group" story now. Damn! Calum (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) What!? What do I write like? Is is it the repeated words, or the misplaced negatives? Derek (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) No, it would be the lack of proofreading. :) I had written this a while ago as part of another conversation, but never posted it: ---...---If Chris ran rtlToronto: dose you wants to have a robat game? ok next week bring yoare robats chris i'm (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) HEY!!! I resemble that remark!! Chris There's no 'I' in 'team'. There's four in 'platitude-quoting idiot'. (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Actually I do proof read my posts. And be thankful that I do. I find to truly proof read my own writing requires a week or more separation between writing and rereading. Since this is largely impractical, you get what you get. :-) Derek (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Thanks for adding the Derek Raycraft version! Calum (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Indeed, Calum is absolutely right. I was going to elaborate on that myself, however I was running late for lunch, so I did not bother. :)) What I was trying to say is that from my understanding BrickOS and QuiteC use the same basic type of (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) In all honesty, if I'd seen QC first, I might've gone with it. That said, however, I feel slightly more confident using BrickOS, because I know that it was a multi-person development effort with an active community online. IE, I know I can get (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) WOW, their is hope for me YET!!! 10 ? clr 15 FOR X = 1 TO 5040 20 if chip_in c1 then {put_chip in c1} 25 NEXT x 30 END this might need some more work, but I think I have the hang of this. Chris There's no 'I' in 'team'. There's four in (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Calum Tsang wrote: <snip> (...) Dear Strong Bad, Can you play the guitar? That's what that line reminded me of--dunno why... (...) Hey pal! You suckered me into the trains--don't go trashing that decision now... I was (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jan-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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