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Re: Yet Another Episode 1 Question
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Sun, 16 Apr 2000 10:47:57 GMT
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"Hell in a handbasket" - sorry, there is no way in HECK I am going to censor that
phrase, as it is a widely known phrase that really loses most of its' meaning as
"heck (or Heavenly Challenged for you PC Dorks) in a handbasket".

I'm sorry, but there is a point where I think people look more ridiculous than the
people they are trying to correct.  PC has got to be one of the worst things to
happen to the 80s and 90s - there was (and is) SO much time wasted making sure we
go over everything sooooo carefully so that we don't offend albino left-handed
atheists who live in Antarctica (OK, not that bad, but it SEEMS that bad
sometimes).  Enough, people.  Chill out, leave OTHER people alone, and relax a bit.

I'm generally a laidback person.  But don't you dare try to micromanage MY life or
speech, or you'll get burnt.

I'll use gyp all I want (haven't used it in 2 decades, but I'll use it if I want).
It means to ME what it means to ME, it's got nothing to do with slurs against
gypsies to ME.  If it does to you, that's your problem, not mine.


Larry Pieniazek wrote:

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
Well, I AM going to say it - you're too damned uptight.

Whoa there...

Here's my take, not like anyone cares... :-) No one has a right not to be
offended. If someone chooses to use language that is bigoted or demonstrates
prejudice, as long as that person is not advocating the initiation of force,
there isn't much that can be done about it, legally, nor should there be.

However, I AM offended by slur words. You may not care, I don't have the right
to not be offended, but if my opinion matters to you, maybe you might want to
know.

I've already discussed it in this forum in a previous context (the "mighty
white of you" remarks). I'd prefer that my friends not use welsh, gyp, jew,
"mighty christian of you", "don't be so gay", "that was a po-lock move", "afro
engineered" and just about any other racial, trait/preference based, or ethnic
slur you could imagine.

People do, and I get over it. But if they make a habit of it, I do tend to
think just a tiny bit less of them. And as for strangers, well, it gives me a
bit more data to evaluate whether I want to deal with them or not.

There ARE bigger problems out there, but I'd just rather that my kids, for
example, never ever use the n word, and getting them to think about why that is
involves having them think about why if the n word is wrong, other, milder
slurs are too.

The world is going to hell in
a handbasket,

Yes it is. And we've already discussed how I feel about profanity as well.
You're excited, so I won't sweat it. But is that how you want my kids to
perceive you? They DO read here although they're not allowed to post, yet. As
of the mo, .debate is off limits to them so it may not matter.

++Lar

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  Re: Yet Another Episode 1 Question
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl mentioned: (...) Side rant, triggered by Tom's casual example, but not having much relevance to the current thread (hey, this is .o-t): As I understand, there used to be prejudice against left-handed people. (...) (24 years ago, 18-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  

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  Re: Yet Another Episode 1 Question
 
(...) Whoa there... Here's my take, not like anyone cares... :-) No one has a right not to be offended. If someone chooses to use language that is bigoted or demonstrates prejudice, as long as that person is not advocating the initiation of force, (...) (24 years ago, 15-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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