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Re: Yet Another Episode 1 Question
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Fri, 14 Apr 2000 07:29:26 GMT
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Eric,

Lorbaat wrote:

In lugnet.starwars, Ahui Herrera writes:

You should really
really read the book and you will fell that the movie was a jip!

A lot of people aren't aware of this, but the phrase "to gyp" someone is
actually a racist slur against gypsies, just as the term "to jew" someone is a
slur against, well, jews.

I know you probably weren't aware of this, because most people aren't, but you
might want to re-evaluate the term's place in your vocabulary accordingly.

Thank you for being the one to point this out--I thought about it but figured I'd
be taken to task for being uptight or something, and after the day I had I didn't
think it would be worth it.

Unfortunately, you're absolutely right about most people not seeing the ethnic
slur in the term (although both the "gyp" and "jew" examples are much more clearly
so to us than "welsh," as in "welshing on a bet," which is also a slur).  People
are unthinking enough that when I was teaching at Michigan State, a student used
the "to jew" slur in passing when talking to their TA, who was obviously Jewish (a
conspicuous Mogen David necklace)--and then couldn't understand why she exploded
into a rage.

But looking at the way the original poster spelt the word--that's how a lot of
people spell it--it's easy to understand how its origins could be obscured.

(sorry, not a .debate, just a seconding.)

best,

Lindsay



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  Re: Yet Another Episode 1 Question
 
Well, I AM going to say it - you're too damned uptight. The world is going to hell in a handbasket, and part of it is everybody whining about something, and people having to watch every word they say. GYP GYP GYP. I say it all the time. I don't give (...) (24 years ago, 14-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Yet Another Episode 1 Question
 
(...) a (...) you (...) I'd (...) didn't (...) clearly (...) People (...) used (...) Jewish (a (...) exploded (...) Apparently all too easily - Encarta's on-line dictionary only notes the word gyp "possibly" comes from gypsy (though it seems likely (...) (24 years ago, 14-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Yet Another Episode 1 Question
 
(...) A lot of people aren't aware of this, but the phrase "to gyp" someone is actually a racist slur against gypsies, just as the term "to jew" someone is a slur against, well, jews. I know you probably weren't aware of this, because most people (...) (24 years ago, 13-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  

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