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Re: Yet Another Episode 1 Question
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Date: 
Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:36:29 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> 
> Eric,
> 
> Lorbaat wrote:
> 
> > In lugnet.starwars, Ahui Herrera writes:
> > 
> > > You should really
> > > really read the book and you will fell that the movie was a jip!
> > 
> > A lot of people aren't aware of this, but the phrase "to gyp" someone is
> > actually a racist slur against gypsies, just as the term "to jew" someone is • a
> > slur against, well, jews.
> > 
> > I know you probably weren't aware of this, because most people aren't, but • you
> > might want to re-evaluate the term's place in your vocabulary accordingly.
> 
> Thank you for being the one to point this out--I thought about it but figured • I'd
> be taken to task for being uptight or something, and after the day I had I • didn't
> think it would be worth it.
> 
> Unfortunately, you're absolutely right about most people not seeing the ethnic
> slur in the term (although both the "gyp" and "jew" examples are much more • clearly
> so to us than "welsh," as in "welshing on a bet," which is also a slur). • People
> are unthinking enough that when I was teaching at Michigan State, a student • used
> the "to jew" slur in passing when talking to their TA, who was obviously • Jewish (a
> conspicuous Mogen David necklace)--and then couldn't understand why she • exploded
> into a rage.
> 
> But looking at the way the original poster spelt the word--that's how a lot of
> people spell it--it's easy to understand how its origins could be obscured.

Apparently all too easily - Encarta's on-line dictionary only notes the word
gyp "possibly" comes from gypsy (though it seems likely to me).

Bruce



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  Re: Yet Another Episode 1 Question
 
(...) of (...) From : (URL) I found: Gyp A college servant, whose office is that of a gentleman's valet, waiting on two or more collegians in the University of Cambridge. He differs from a bed-maker, inasmuch as he does not make beds; but he runs (...) (26 years ago, 14-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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Eric, (...) Thank you for being the one to point this out--I thought about it but figured I'd be taken to task for being uptight or something, and after the day I had I didn't think it would be worth it. Unfortunately, you're absolutely right about (...) (26 years ago, 14-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  

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