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Re: PCisms (was :Re: Yet Another Episode 1 Question)
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Date: 
Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:55:19 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:

[snip]
but I use "welsh" all the time, and I
feel it's OK for the same reason Tom does, Welsh relatives and ancestry (heck, • even
my first name is Welsh).  That doesn't change the fact that its origin was a
slur.

It was originally a slur, but it isn't now.  Now it has just become a part of
our language.  It had never occurred to me that it was a slur before this came
up.

[snip]
However, it's extremely troubling to see a made-up example of 1990s PC • doublespeak
("Extremely Young Persons of the Crying Persuasion") put on par with ethnic
slurs.

Actually, what Tom was (IMO) putting on par with these 'ethnic slurs' was the
term cry-baby.  EYPotCPs is the 'acceptable' version of the slur, cry-baby.  So
I think the comparison is valid even if the difference between someone's wholly
uncontrollable ethnicity and someone's personality is quite significant.

They're not the same thing--a humorous descriptive moniker like that one • doesn't
have a built-in negative connotation, aside from the one the creator ascribes
to it

But the term cry-baby does.

avoiding offensive slurs is to me
just a matter of common human courtesy.

Right, but offensive to whom?  Welsh doesn't offend me or you, and we have
Welsh ancestry, but gyp might offend people, and jew (as a verb) certainly
offends people (even me).  But they're all along the same lines.  This is
tricky stuff.

Chris



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  Re: PCisms (was :Re: Yet Another Episode 1 Question)
 
(...) Actually, I did too. :) I'm a very un-uptight (downtight?) person, so it was surprising to see such a visceral indictment of a post I made in a completely neutral mood--I think (and correct me on this if I'm wrong) that Tom believed I was (...) (24 years ago, 15-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  

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