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Re: Yet Another Episode 1 Question
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Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:57:28 GMT
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Well, I AM going to say it - you're too damned uptight. The world is going to hell in
a handbasket, and part of it is everybody whining about something, and people having
to watch every word they say.
GYP GYP GYP. I say it all the time. I don't give a damn where it came from. I'm
part Welsh, and don't really care if people use "welsh on a bet/deal" - I've used it
myself. I've also used many other non-PC terms in my life. DEAL WITH IT, I'm not
going to stop saying them. That doesn't mean I'm a racist (that is definitely one
thing I am NOT), it just means I'm not going to waste MY life trying to make YOU
happy.
The world's population is turning into a bunch of crybabies (there, I've done it, I've
offended Extremely Young Persons of the Crying Persuasion) whining about being
offended.
Just about ANYTHING you say will offend SOMEONE. If you worry about offending 0.01%
of the population, give it up, you're hopeless (want to bet that true 100% Gypsies are
even less that 0.01% of the population?), just put yourself out of our misery now..
Mr L F Braun wrote:
> Eric,
>
> Lorbaat wrote:
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> > In lugnet.starwars, Ahui Herrera writes:
> >
> > > You should really
> > > really read the book and you will fell that the movie was a jip!
> >
> > A lot of people aren't aware of this, but the phrase "to gyp" someone is
> > actually a racist slur against gypsies, just as the term "to jew" someone is a
> > slur against, well, jews.
> >
> > I know you probably weren't aware of this, because most people aren't, but you
> > might want to re-evaluate the term's place in your vocabulary accordingly.
>
> Thank you for being the one to point this out--I thought about it but figured I'd
> be taken to task for being uptight or something, and after the day I had I didn't
> think it would be worth it.
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> Unfortunately, you're absolutely right about most people not seeing the ethnic
> slur in the term (although both the "gyp" and "jew" examples are much more clearly
> so to us than "welsh," as in "welshing on a bet," which is also a slur). People
> are unthinking enough that when I was teaching at Michigan State, a student used
> the "to jew" slur in passing when talking to their TA, who was obviously Jewish (a
> conspicuous Mogen David necklace)--and then couldn't understand why she exploded
> into a rage.
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> But looking at the way the original poster spelt the word--that's how a lot of
> people spell it--it's easy to understand how its origins could be obscured.
>
> (sorry, not a .debate, just a seconding.)
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> best,
>
> Lindsay
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| (...) Whoa there... Here's my take, not like anyone cares... :-) No one has a right not to be offended. If someone chooses to use language that is bigoted or demonstrates prejudice, as long as that person is not advocating the initiation of force, (...) (24 years ago, 15-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Just because the world's going to hell in a handcart doesn't give you the right to push it faster. (...) Actually, the most of the world's population have more important things to worry about than being offended. Things like having enough (...) (24 years ago, 15-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Eric, (...) Thank you for being the one to point this out--I thought about it but figured I'd be taken to task for being uptight or something, and after the day I had I didn't think it would be worth it. Unfortunately, you're absolutely right about (...) (24 years ago, 14-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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