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Re: PCisms (was :Re: Yet Another Episode 1 Question)
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Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:11:09 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> Knowing how kids (adolescents, really) are, isn't raising kids in an
> environment where racisim is embraced really the same as advocating the
> initiation of force? I think that parents who raise racist kids should expect
> them to potentially act foolishly and violently based on their beliefs. Even
> if the parents would never dream of supporting such actions.
Wow, that's an interesting angle. I'm not sure I have any pat answer there.
What liability do parents have for their children's actions? After they are
adults, most would say not much. But while they are kids? I dunno.
> > There ARE bigger problems out there, but I'd just rather that my kids, for
> > example, never ever use the n word, and getting them to think about why that • is
> > involves having them think about why if the n word is wrong, other, milder
> > slurs are too.
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> Why is the 'n word' wrong? Is it based on how it makes listeners feel? Or on
> how it makes the speaker seem? Or is it based on what actions the use of such
> a word implies support of?
All of the above, I'd say.
> How do you discuss this with the kids?
Using questions similar to the questions you just outlined, more or less. I
tend to take a questioning approach with my kids (on really important stuff),
in which I ask what I think are thought provoking questions and ask them why
they feel that way and what it means to them and what if it were different,
etc.
This is not a good approach for acute behavioural issues, which get a "stop
that right now", but is good for long term values and ethics.
> > > The world is going to hell in
> > > a handbasket,
> >
> > Yes it is. And we've already discussed how I feel about profanity as well.
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> Should I take this snippet to mean that the word hell is profanity?
Mild, extremely mild. But yes, there are three quite mild epithets in Tom's
post. Not too strong for here, but possibly too strong for elsewhere (I'd say
LUGNET is big enough that it has different defacto standards in different
places, would you agree?)
> > You're excited, so I won't sweat it. But is that how you want my kids to
> > perceive you?
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> They would see him - maybe for the first time - mildly freaking out. And then
> if they continued to read, they'd see him making contributions to the • community
> and find how valuable he is to all of us. So if they become members of the
> community, they won't really hold it against him, and if they don't, then what
> does their first impression matter?
Valid point. But first impressions do matter. It's taken me quite a while to
unlearn some I've made, and in some cases, I haven't.
> my $.02,
I'll see your .02 and raise you .01 :-)
++Lar
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