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Re: Worst of the worst
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Date: 
Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:49:11 GMT
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In lugnet.people.support, Elroy Davis wrote:
> In lugnet.people.support, Timothy Gould wrote:
> 
> > > > This concept of hiding the fights from sensitive eyes really disappoints me. I
> > > > would think that grown adults would be capable of ignoring thing a little
> > > > better[1]. What annoys me particularly is that the people who usually demand
> > > > such measures rarely post to the forums in the first place.
> 
> > Hi Dave,
> > 
> > Just to clarify this isn't directed at you. You argued it should never have been
> > brought here which I fully agree with. You never once said it should be deleted
> > or locked which is where I take issue.
> > 
> > Tim

Hi Elroy,

I hope that my comment didn't come out harsher than it was intended. I'm pretty
passionate about free speech and probably come across ruder than I intend to.

> If your comments were directed at me, then you are absolutely right.  I don't
> post to the forums much.  That doesn't mean that I don't read them.  Anyone who
> knows me in person knows that I'm generally a pretty quiet guy.  It says a lot
> that I've gotten to the point where I feel like I need to speak up.

I agree with this. To be honest I really regret adding that comment. It's just
that some people who often call for thread locking or whatever often seem to
have a high negative to positive post ratio (noone in this thread) which I find
frustrating. I'm sorry for writing it though and would like to apologise to you,
Dave and Michael for it.

> As for being able to ignore things a little better, I've been ignoring it for
> months.  I'm just tired of seeing it flare up over and over again.  It's a bit
> like watching your neighbors fight in the street.  The first time it happens, as
> long as no one gets hurt, it gets chalked up to people having an arguement.  If
> it keeps happening, eventually it's disturbing the peace, and I'm going to call
> the cops.

This is fair. I'm often torn with this sort of thread. On the one hand I don't
mind it and nor do most (but not all) of the people I know but on the other hand
I realise that a good portion of Lugnet find it intolerable. That's one reason I
usually try to remember to take my posts over to .off-topic.debate which is
where it belongs and where it can be easily ignored.

> Timothy, I respect that you didn't bring this to Lugnet in the first place, and
> I appreciate that you see the irony in your own statement above.  To me, that's
> at least a start.  I don't know what touched off this feud in the first place,
> but it's gone on for so long now that you all appear to be fighting just for the
> sake of fighting.  It's not a matter of hiding the fight from sensitive eyes.
> Personally, I don't even know what you are all fighting about.  All I know is
> that you all keep fighting.  It's tiring to watch.

I think this is best left unanswered.

> What's even worse for me is that you are all awesome builders.  I guess that's
> what makes it hard for me to understand what the fight gains any of you.
> 
> And yes, you are right, I don't have to read the posts.  Like I said before, I
> usually just ignore Lugnet for a few weeks until it all dies down again.  I
> think it's unfair that people should have to do that though.  It's a bit like
> not being able to go to my favorite pub, because every time I do, someone in the
> middle of the room gets into a fight.
> -Elroy

Good analogy. Perhaps a suitable compromise would be to have the thread (and any
future ones too) moved into .off-topic.debate. I would be happy with such a move
and it would keep it out of the eyes of most people. That way the fight is off
in the back-room to continue your analogy.

Tim



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  Re: Worst of the worst
 
(...) If your comments were directed at me, then you are absolutely right. I don't post to the forums much. That doesn't mean that I don't read them. Anyone who knows me in person knows that I'm generally a pretty quiet guy. It says a lot that I've (...) (20 years ago, 15-Aug-06, to lugnet.people.support)

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