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Re: Worst of the worst
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Date: 
Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:49:11 GMT
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In lugnet.people.support, Elroy Davis wrote:
In lugnet.people.support, Timothy Gould wrote:

This concept of hiding the fights from sensitive eyes really disappoints me. I
would think that grown adults would be capable of ignoring thing a little
better[1]. What annoys me particularly is that the people who usually demand
such measures rarely post to the forums in the first place.

Hi Dave,

Just to clarify this isn't directed at you. You argued it should never have been
brought here which I fully agree with. You never once said it should be deleted
or locked which is where I take issue.

Tim

Hi Elroy,

I hope that my comment didn't come out harsher than it was intended. I'm pretty
passionate about free speech and probably come across ruder than I intend to.

If your comments were directed at me, then you are absolutely right.  I don't
post to the forums much.  That doesn't mean that I don't read them.  Anyone who
knows me in person knows that I'm generally a pretty quiet guy.  It says a lot
that I've gotten to the point where I feel like I need to speak up.

I agree with this. To be honest I really regret adding that comment. It's just
that some people who often call for thread locking or whatever often seem to
have a high negative to positive post ratio (noone in this thread) which I find
frustrating. I'm sorry for writing it though and would like to apologise to you,
Dave and Michael for it.

As for being able to ignore things a little better, I've been ignoring it for
months.  I'm just tired of seeing it flare up over and over again.  It's a bit
like watching your neighbors fight in the street.  The first time it happens, as
long as no one gets hurt, it gets chalked up to people having an arguement.  If
it keeps happening, eventually it's disturbing the peace, and I'm going to call
the cops.

This is fair. I'm often torn with this sort of thread. On the one hand I don't
mind it and nor do most (but not all) of the people I know but on the other hand
I realise that a good portion of Lugnet find it intolerable. That's one reason I
usually try to remember to take my posts over to .off-topic.debate which is
where it belongs and where it can be easily ignored.

Timothy, I respect that you didn't bring this to Lugnet in the first place, and
I appreciate that you see the irony in your own statement above.  To me, that's
at least a start.  I don't know what touched off this feud in the first place,
but it's gone on for so long now that you all appear to be fighting just for the
sake of fighting.  It's not a matter of hiding the fight from sensitive eyes.
Personally, I don't even know what you are all fighting about.  All I know is
that you all keep fighting.  It's tiring to watch.

I think this is best left unanswered.

What's even worse for me is that you are all awesome builders.  I guess that's
what makes it hard for me to understand what the fight gains any of you.

And yes, you are right, I don't have to read the posts.  Like I said before, I
usually just ignore Lugnet for a few weeks until it all dies down again.  I
think it's unfair that people should have to do that though.  It's a bit like
not being able to go to my favorite pub, because every time I do, someone in the
middle of the room gets into a fight.
-Elroy

Good analogy. Perhaps a suitable compromise would be to have the thread (and any
future ones too) moved into .off-topic.debate. I would be happy with such a move
and it would keep it out of the eyes of most people. That way the fight is off
in the back-room to continue your analogy.

Tim



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  Re: Worst of the worst
 
(...) If your comments were directed at me, then you are absolutely right. I don't post to the forums much. That doesn't mean that I don't read them. Anyone who knows me in person knows that I'm generally a pretty quiet guy. It says a lot that I've (...) (18 years ago, 15-Aug-06, to lugnet.people.support)

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