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Re: Those who cast the votes decide nothing.
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Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:55:19 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
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In the UK, the Left, Right & Centre enjoy a chortle at Bush’s electoral
credentials (and his intellectual abilities).
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Please. Blair isn’t; he’s a good man.
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In what sense?
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What is your implication? That he isn’t a “good man”? Are you so partisan
that you can’t even give credit where it is due?
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Perhaps the mayor of London is, but
he is the biggest ass of a politician there ever was.
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In what sense?
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His complete lack of civility. I don’t care if he believes Bush is the Devil
(which he probably does BTW); he is a representative of the city of London, and
should act accordingly. He should check his narcissism at the door.
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I’m sure Bush is
snickering, too-- all the way to being the most powerful person on earth.
Deal.
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He has power, but no athourity.
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???
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He lost the argument a long time time ago,
and ever since has relied on “might-makes-right”.
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??? Which argument was that? He has relied on “might-rights-wrong”.
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MLK Jr: “Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided
missiles and misguided men.”
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Interesting that you’d quote a minister and applied it to a Christian president,
and all the while being yourself not a Christian (I presume).
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From an international PR PoV,
Bush has been a disaster for the USA. He has destroyed a great deal of the
international respect the USA had.
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Respect from whom, Scott?
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Most of Europe for starters.
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Please. The dirty little secret is that Europe has always detested America for
one reason or another.
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We will do what we believe is in our best
interests as a nation.
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Were steel tariffs in your “best interests”?
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That is usually in the best interests of the world as
well, because a strong, free America is good for the world (not to mention
a prosperous one as well).
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Tell that to the innocents killed in Iraq.
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I will tell you that we went to unprecedented lengths to avoid inflicting
civilian causualities in the invasion of Iraq. I think it is a harder sell to
the families of US soldiers who were killed in the line of duty for the
liberation of Iraq.
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We are not intested in pleasing people or
countries, but preserving our way of life, namely freedom, and assisting
others in achieving that goal as well.
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Is this where I list all the despots Bush is in league with? How he is
funding repression and gross human rights abuses in places like Israel and
Uzbekistan?
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Buzz. You just pushed my “Israel button” and I have no further desire to
continue another pointless debate with you over ploughed ground.
JOHN
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| (...) For starters: He lied to Parliament and took my country into a war that it did not want. (...) Are you saying Londoners did not share his view? (...) What don't you understand? (...) That the "War on Terror" is the only way to progress. (...) (...) (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) In what sense? (...) In what sense? (...) He has power, but no athourity. He lost the argument a long time time ago, and ever since has relied on "might-makes-right". MLK Jr: "Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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