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Re: 2 Qs For John
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Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:18:16 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
  
   Respect from whom, Scott? We will do what we believe is in our best interests as a nation. That is usually in the best interests of the world as well, because a strong, free America is good for the world (not to mention a prosperous one as well). We are not intested in pleasing people or countries, but preserving our way of life, namely freedom, and assisting others in achieving that goal as well.

Well said John. Just keep waving your little flag.

It’s a big flag, Scott, and you should thank God that the most powerful nation in the world for the last century has been a freedom loving nation.
  
This is what I don’t understand:

Q1. How is supporting human rights abuses in Israel and Saudi Arabia in your collective self interest if the end result (indirect or otherwise) is 911 and related attacks?

I don’t know how SA popped in here, but WRT to Israel-- this country is in a struggle for its very existence, and has shown remarkable restraint in the use of deadly force against the Palestinians, who are being used as pawns by dispicable slime such as Arafat to destroy their nation. Your characterization of Israeli policy is highly offensive and ignorant to say the least. Further, your ignorant cause-effect analysis of US support for Israel and 911 indicates that you still don’t get it-- the world is at war with Islamo-facists, and the sooner you pull your head out of the sand and do something about it, the sooner the threat will be thwarted. Get it, Nevil?
  
Q2. How has invading Iraq improved your ?freedom?? It appears it has made the world less safe?

Once again, for the umpteenth time: The world is safer because the monster SH has been removed from a place of power where he could acquire, develop, or give WMD to monsters such as OBL.

The world was in imminent danger of terrorist attacks whether we invaded Iraq or not! We are simply deciding to fight now before WMD get into the hands of the terrorists. Just because we are nipping terror in the bud doesn’t mean that the terror isn’t there (as it might appear to someone whose head is in the sand).

JOHN



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(...) Tell that to the Vietnam war dead… an estimated (URL) 2 million> (...) Many would say that it was your nation’s support for the House of Saud that rankled OBL so much… and Bush is still covering for them! (...) Nonsense. Right-wing Israeli (...) (21 years ago, 10-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) Well said John. Just keep waving your little flag. This is what I don't understand: Q1. How is supporting human rights abuses in Israel and Saudi Arabia in your collective self interest if the end result (indirect or otherwise) is 911 and (...) (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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