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Re: Those who cast the votes decide nothing.
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Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:09:04 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
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In the UK, the Left, Right & Centre enjoy a chortle at Bush’s electoral
credentials (and his intellectual abilities).
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Please. Blair isn’t; he’s a good man.
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In what sense?
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What is your implication? That he isn’t a “good man”? Are you so partisan
that you can’t even give credit where it is due?
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For starters: He lied to Parliament and took my country into a war that it did
not want.
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Perhaps the mayor of London is, but
he is the biggest ass of a politician there ever was.
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In what sense?
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His complete lack of civility. I don’t care if he believes Bush is the Devil
(which he probably does BTW); he is a representative of the city of London,
and should act accordingly.
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Are you saying Londoners did not share his view?
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He should check his narcissism at the door.
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I’m sure Bush is
snickering, too-- all the way to being the most powerful person on earth.
Deal.
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He has power, but no authority.
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???
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What don’t you understand?
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He lost the argument a long time time ago,
and ever since has relied on “might-makes-right”.
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??? Which argument was that?
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That the “War on Terror” is the only way to progress.
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He has relied on “might-rights-wrong”.
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MLK Jr: “Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided
missiles and misguided men.”
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Interesting that you’d quote a minister and applied it to a Christian
president, and all the while being yourself not a Christian (I presume).
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You are avoiding the point... But I’ll indulge you.... most of the Christian
institutions are against his invasion of Iraq; Where does that leave your
“Christian president”?
e.g.:
Easter message dwells on Iraq
Pope steps up pressure for
peace
BTW: What makes you assume I’m not a Christian?
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From an international PR PoV,
Bush has been a disaster for the USA. He has destroyed a great deal of the
international respect the USA had.
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Respect from whom, Scott?
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Most of Europe for starters.
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Please. The dirty little secret is that Europe has always detested America
for one reason or another.
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Is that the best you can do?
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We will do what we believe is in our best
interests as a nation.
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Were steel tariffs in your “best interests”?
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Well, were they?
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That is usually in the best interests of the world as
well, because a strong, free America is good for the world (not to
mention a prosperous one as well).
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Tell that to the innocents killed in Iraq.
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I will tell you that we went to unprecedented lengths to avoid inflicting
civilian causualities in the invasion of Iraq.
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That is not my understanding. People have been needlessly killed, and Bush is
covering the murderers’ trails.
And still no WOMD!
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I think it is a harder sell
to the families of US soldiers who were killed in the line of duty for the
liberation of Iraq.
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Will Halliburton pay their war pensions? Will Halliburton pay for their kids’
education?
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We are not intested in pleasing people or
countries, but preserving our way of life, namely freedom, and assisting
others in achieving that goal as well.
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Is this where I list all the despots Bush is in league with? How he is
funding repression and gross human rights abuses in places like Israel and
Uzbekistan?
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Buzz. You just pushed my “Israel button” and I have no further desire to
continue another pointless debate with you over ploughed ground.
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Does the truth hurt so much?
Scott A
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| (...) Nobody wants war, Scott. Sometimes you haven't a choice. Sometimes you do. We either fight now or later. (...) Are you saying that most Londoners do? (...) Authority from whom? (...) How else are you going to prevent Wahabi Fascists from (...) (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) What is your implication? That he isn't a "good man"? Are you so partisan that you can't even give credit where it is due? (...) His complete lack of civility. I don't care if he believes Bush is the Devil (which he probably does BTW); he is a (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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