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    Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Carl Nelson
   (...) I love the part where Hitler and Mussolini are termed conservatives. They believed in the cornerstones of conservatism, smaller government, free markets, less regulation, the sacredness of human life, etc. That just shows the agenda behind the (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —David Koudys
     (...) I think the belief in the 'sacredness of human life' applies to more than conservatives' I've been told that I'm a Canadian Liberal, but I 'believe' in the sacredness of life. Whether the other points are 'just conservative', i.e. smaller (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Carl Nelson
     (...) Never meant to imply that it excluded anyone else. I tend to lean towards libertarianism, and there go I but for a couple of reservations. First, I can't stomach the de-criminalize all drugs argument. Some drugs are too bad (harmful to health) (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Dave Schuler
     (...) For the last time, can we lay this red herring to rest? The issue is not "what does 'is' mean in casual parlance?" but rather "what is the implication of 'is' according to the accepted and rigid strictures of legal discourse as established in (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Carl Nelson
     (...) See my other reply to you. (...) Thanks for clearing that up. I really appreciate it. (...) I'm condemning them for their arrogance, not their education! It takes an arrogant person to say that we all must have toilets that flush no more than (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Dave Schuler
      (...) See my reply to your reply. (...) You're welcome. And I notice that you didn't attempt to refute my answer. (...) It's been a while, so perhaps you've forgotten. Here's what you wrote in your previous (URL) post>: That’s my biggest problem (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
     
          Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Carl Nelson
      (...) What's the point? You dislike Bush, I think he's doing a decent job, there's no common ground on the issue to make it worth discussing. (...) Red herring--bringing up a quote by one conservative and attributing it to all. It is pretty funny, (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
     
          Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Dave Schuler
       (...) If you truly think that he's doing a decent job, then I agree that there is nothing I can say to you that would make a difference. (...) Be careful with your misattributions. I *wondered* how many other Conservatives might share Rove's (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —David Eaton
        (...) Dave, that was awesome. Though honestly I think you're taking this a bit too seriously. (...) Actually, while that's a good theory, I'm not sure it's exactly true. I recently heard the stats on ... uh... Maine or New Hampshire's (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Dave Schuler
        (...) Ah, the perils of failing to include the 8^) Seriously, I'm not terribly caught up in the real-worldliness of PhDs, though I admit that the cliche about absentminded professors kind of gets on my nerves, too. (...) Hmm. That's interesting, and (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Carl Nelson
        (...) I grew up with two for parents... and look what that did to me. (...) No apology is necessary where no offense is taken, and I figured that if I wanted to post here where the numbers are decidedly against me, I better have thick skin anyway! (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Richard Marchetti
        (...) Gore is okay -- not great, just okay. I find the poltical agenda of his wife Tipper annoying though... Bush is an enemy to the people. Simple as that. Anyone that cannot see that fact doesn't understand, or perhaps value, our system of govt. (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
      
           Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Carl Nelson
       (...) Good examples: the Networking professor who asked me what Novell was (in 1993, when it was the only viable PC-based server NOS) and the Abstract Algebra professor who made errors calculating student grades. You can subpoena my lawyer for their (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Bruce Schlickbernd
      (...) Too bad Bush added the line, "...Against any threat, real, imagined, or constructed out of thin air." :-) (...) The majority of voters in the DC area are black - whether or not they are bureasucrats and government employees I couldn't say, but (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
     
          Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Carl Nelson
      (...) But what doesn't the guy misquote, eh? :) (...) I'm not sure about voters, but the population is 63% white, 26% black (higher than national average), 5% Asian, and 6% Hispanic ((URL)). I don't know how to go about calculating the areas of (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Thomas Stangl
     (...) It takes arrogance to think that you can waste more water than other people. What makes you so special? Even if there is no potable water shortage in your area, areas nearby may be stressed. (...) Or you unscrew the clamp from your wallet and (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Carl Nelson
     (...) That's what makes me mad, that other people are making me waste water because they know better than me what my situation is! (...) According to the plumber I consulted, the money would be better spent on a pressure system. The irony is that I (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Dave Schuler
   (...) First of all, you're inferring an underlying agenda simply because you don't like the results of the study. To verify the presence of an agenda, you have to do more than simply object to the findings. Secondly, where in the article to you see (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Carl Nelson
   (...) Showing that they have an agenda: what is their comparable study on the psychological causes of liberalism? It starts from an inferred premise that liberalism is simply right, and there must be deficiencies in conservatives to make them (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —David Koudys
     In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Carl Nelson wrote: <snip> (...) Whereas I'm not 'chicken little' who believes that if we don't start recycling every single item and stop driving cars right now the earth is going to spontaneously die in the very near (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Carl Nelson
     (...) And I'm not a moron who believes that nothing we do on this planet affects the world, or that we should only think of next week instead of next year, next century, next decade, which is another reason that I'm not a complete libertarian. (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —David Koudys
     In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Carl Nelson wrote: <snip> (...) DOn't worry about that--gotcha covered--the entire basement is now dedicated to my LEGO endeavours! Stop by sometime and have a boo! Dave K (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Carl Nelson
     (...) Then you're either single, or lucky--I can't get the zoning committee to more than my office and a small part of the bonus room for mine! Best regards, Carl (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —David Koudys
     (...) Little from column A and a little from column B Was renting for many many years, and finally decided to buy a house... And this home buying decision was promptly made right after a long term relationship faltered. Some say getting out was (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Carl Nelson
     (...) Sorry to hear that--here's hoping things work out well for you in the end! Best regards, Carl (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
    
         Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —David Koudys
     (...) House... LEGO... Nice view... (URL) and if you have the patience to wait for it to load--Grr!! Going to have to figure out why is soooo slow! Know what I'm doing this weekend!) Things are looking up! Thanks for the well wishes! Take care, Dave (...) (21 years ago, 20-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Dave Schuler
   (...) Did you read the article, or did you access the actual study? If you've only read the article (as, admittedly, I have), then you've misunderstood it. Nowhere does the article claim that Mussolini is conservative. Rather, it identifies (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Carl Nelson
   (...) You can find it at: (URL) if you can understand more than half of it that's more than I can, without a degree in psychology! The article regards Mussolini & Hitler as conservatives for the scope of the study. For example (p. 342): (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind! —Dave Schuler
   (...) Although I am generally hesitant to dismiss sources as biased (since to do so does not automatically invalidate the assertions of such a source), this website has been widely debunked as a distributor of pro-industry, pro-conservative (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 

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