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Re: Sex Scandal: U.S. President had sex with Intern!
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 13 May 2003 12:33:59 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes:
> > Sorry to burst your bubble, John; but I know gay men that attend a Catholic
> > church regularly.
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> Sorry to burst yours, but they aren't married (by the Catholic church).
And why is that? Why should the "church" tell two people, who want to live
in the institution of marriage, that they can't just because those two folks
are of the same sex? Where in the teachings of Jesus does it say, "Marriage
is good for these people over here, but not for those people over there"?
It's akin to my co-worker (who isn't gay, mind you--this is a tangent) who
is Catholic, but is "separated" from his first wife. Since you can't get
married after a divorce in the Catholic church, basically the church is
"forcing" my co-worker to 'live in sin' with his new partner in life.
I mean, they are living together but the "church" won't marry them.
Nicely done.
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> > Again, the world is not limited to the flavors you would
> > impose upon it. Indeed, the world doesn't care about the restrictions you
> > would place upon it.
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> What's this "world" stuff? We are talking about marriage in the Christian
> context. I don't know what you are talking about.
Marriage in the bigoted, limited, wrong interpretation of what the Bible to
say. The Bible shouldn't conform to *us*, we should conform to it. And I
believe, (and my biblical scholarship isn't as thorough as it should be, but
I did minor in Religion at university a *long* time ago, so my memory's a
little dusty), that the Bible actually mentions that polygamy is as viable a
lifestyle as any other. And yet todays chruch won't let me have my little
harem.
<snip>
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> > The mote in my eye, the beam sticking out of your own -- you get the picture.
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> I get the quotation, not the application.
We should all have a way of having our worldview, but also allow the
discussion of ideas that might not necessarily 'jive' with it, and the
ability to adapt the worldview or reject the premise as necessary.
Stubbornly adhering to a disjointed WV or a bad premise are equally "The
plank in your eye".
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> JOHN
Dave K
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