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(...) Been there, done that. But somehow Bush is still in office. And stronger for it, too. Bruce (23 years ago, 8-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) is on all the news right now up here in the north. Perhaps, as one local DJ mentioned, the MVP goes to the player with the best *attitude* and not the highest points. As such, I would imagine that *if* I was only playing to get the most points (...) (23 years ago, 8-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Very few of us are perfect Larry. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 8-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) John, you are being obtuse. Like I say below, Ghandi demonstrated where the real power lies. (...) By parodying a rather (in)famous Austrian, I was actually referring to your nationalistic outlook. (...) So as long as the US saves more than it (...) (23 years ago, 8-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Did you not once say all Palestinians were terrorists? Scott A (23 years ago, 8-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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din·gus (ding??s) noun, Slang. An article whose name is unknown or forgotten. [Dutch dinges, probably from German genitive of Ding, thing, from Old High German.] -- Excerpted from The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Third (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The people of a country are either free or they are not, there is no middle ground. (...) Well if we let them get away with illegal property seizure, illegal imprisonment, and other blatantly obvious facist acts, who is to say they won't try. (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not sure I said that or left that impression. Although my wife does accuse me of being a closet Republican (...) It's not the platform thats so bad in the GOP case (after you cut about 50% away) it's the practice. (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I read the whole article, and so did Larry. Did you? Nowhere in it did Ms. Lang say that she hates America. This is not a trivial point, since it highlights your willingness to misread a text for your own purposes. I love the United States for (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree with you completely. I would like to discuss with you sometime our side discussion of joining the Republican party sometime (and I apologize to you for my loser***n jab-- I was just tweaking:) I was intrigued to learn that you would (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Click further and you read: ?It makes me feel ashamed to come from the United States ? it is humiliating.? ? JESSICA LANGE Whatever. -John (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Now that is something I can agree with. ('xcept Canada is the best country to live in, but that's just my humble opinion :) ) I don't have cites--thanks for reminding me of hte word-gerrymandering--just folks who live there and to whom I talk (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, I think he was asking where YOU would get your morals... you reminded him where he gets his, which I presume he already knew. We've discussed morality and the origins thereof in the past and I think I'm in the rather small minority that (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So... Sickle cell anemia is racist. Giving birth to same-race children by same-race parents is racist Tendency toward sunburn is racist The greater incidence of lactose-intolerance among Asian ethnicities is racist The physiologic adaptations (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (You don't have to fly me to Spain to get me to opine that I'm not particularly fond of him either, but if you wanted to, I'd go!) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Scott is guilty of many sins, too many to list actually, but that particular observation (that historically, it's went better for you if you're white and well off than if you're not) wasn't racist, per se. If it were, why then, pointing out (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) hating America. Unless you modify your complaint, you are explicitly equating Bush with America, which is insane nationalistic idolatry. And, frankly, that sort of kneejerk follow-the-leader thinking, not to mention your anti-world diatribes (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The quickest link I could find: (URL) (...) Dave!, tell me why I should care more about some Hollywood star's opinions than anyone else's. The media seems to think that because they make films, their opinions must be somehow more valid and so (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You, my friend, are wrong. Making generalizations based upon skin color is the very definition of racism, no matter what the race. -John (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who has said this? Name the star, and give the citation. (...) The fact that you are unable to imagine a dissenting view by an intelligent, well-motivated person of good character is a fantastic indicator that you yourself are either of low (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Whoa whoa whoa.. Are you reading your own papers? Folks have been held for 'questioning' for long periods of time, even when there are no charges against them. There are people living in, well, not necessarily fear of their lives, but at least (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> (...) That, my friend, shows me that you really can't see the forest thru the trees. In no way, shape or form is Scott's expression racist. It actually shows to me that he sees the inherent racism in the system and tries to point it (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's very nice. You should realize that such immature ad hominems only serve to reflect the complete lack of character of the user. (...) The estimated loss due to 9-11 was $95,000,000,000 USD. What do you suppose the cost (in terms of $$$, (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why should US citizens apologize to anyone because our world view happens to differ from other countries'? If I hear of one more Hollywood star say in a press conference in Europe that they hate America, I'm think I'm going to puke! I don't (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was measuring it militarily. How would *you* measure it? By height? (...) Well, you guessed wrong. The US doesn't happen to rule the world; she just makes sure that nobody else attempts to do so. (...) Look, I am not saying the US is (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think both France and Germany have done a good job standing up to the Chimp [sorry, I meant Chump] in the Whitehouse. Scott A (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm sorry for 'throwing it out there' to begin with... well, no, not actually. I actually liked this thread up until the word 'dingus' appeared (though to be said, the (sic) response was a jab as well--I think we all agreed to leave the (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Slinging names is not the way to keep this debate where it needs to be. Because when you use even a mild one like "Losertarian" you enable ill mannered rabble rousers to do the same (in kind, but far worse in degree). I find the use of the (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let's keep it in perspective; there has been no "removal of any reference" to the Towers. Last night on Spin City I saw a clear shot of them, and the syndicated Simpsons recently showed the episode in which the family treks to NYC and Homer (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, Larry--you should join the NRA/Christian Coalition/Enron whore known as the GOP. And John, since you're fond of overlooking reality when it favors your agenda, let's not forget that you can make no true claims of majority. Voter turnout (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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No real arguments here, Scott -- just the reminder that your buddy, Blair seems to enjoy kissing Bush's behind. Of course, I am not saying that you agree with that; just pointing out the obvious deficiencies of your own "leaders" over there. -- (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right. I'd be happy to see some of those things too, dingus. If you think the war will pay for itself, or be a short easy to pay for war; then you need to reduce your lithium intake. Bush will raise the national debt paying off his (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Does somebody else feel like giving dingus a brief history of the "Grand Old Party"? I sure don't... -- Hop-Frog (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Great! So our goal is war with Saudi Arabia, right? ...er, wait, what the hell is this business with Iraq again? (...) Figures. -- Hop-Frog (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There is an easy way to sort that. (...) Why does anyone ever apologize for anything? (...) Is it the judgment you don't like, or the fact that the USA is being judged? Perhaps the French should be denied the right to free speech? Perhaps Bush (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Have you never read the bible John? Was Goliath not MIGHTIER than David? It all depends on how you measure "might". Ghandi demonstrated where the real power lies. He was stronger than the then British Empire. (...) Let me guess, the USA is (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I thought that the appearences of the WTC in the Spider-man movie were for promotional purposes only and never intended for the final cut? As far as I know there were two promotional scenes, one was a poster of a larger than life spider (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What, and miss out on such cogent discourse? -John (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If by "we" you mean the liberal left, than I guess you are correct. -John (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That was my point. (...) *You* could be in the majority too if you'd pull your head out and join the Republican party to work for getting liberatarian agendas implemented, rather than support the go-nowhere, impotent Losertarian party. You are (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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