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Re: Vote against/for...
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Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:17:38 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> 
> > > The world needs to come to terms with the simple fact that the US *IS
> > > MIGHTIER THAN THOU*
> 
> > Have you never read the bible John? Was Goliath not MIGHTIER than David?  It
> > all depends on how you measure "might".
> 
> I was measuring it militarily.  How would *you* measure it?  By height?

John, you are being obtuse. Like I say below, Ghandi demonstrated where the real
power lies.

> 
> > Ghandi demonstrated where the real
> > power lies. He was stronger than the then British Empire.
> 
> > > It's not pretentious, merely fact.  Be thankful that the US also
> > > happens to be the greatest power ever to have existed on the face of the
> > > earth AND shows unprecedented restraint WRT world aggression and expansion.
> 
> > Let me guess, the USA is  destined to rule the world and built an Empire that
> > would last a 1000 years? This sounds familiar.
> 
> Well, you guessed wrong.  The US doesn't happen to rule the world; she just
> makes sure that nobody else attempts to do so.

By parodying a rather (in)famous Austrian, I was actually referring to your
nationalistic outlook.

> 
> > > Think about that.
> 
> > > > Before you go 'waging a war on terror' in other countries, before you start
> > > > yammering about how 'evil' other folks are in their yards--take a look at
> > > > the way you do things in your own country--remove dat der plank from yer eye
> > > > before ya go about tryin' to shake the dust outta mine...
> > > 
> > > Well, I'd rather countries deal with their own terrorists rather than be
> > > sympathetic to them or worse, support them.  If they harbor terrorists that
> > > then attack the US, they are on notice-- clean up YOUR ACT, or we will
> > > oblige and do it for you.
> 
> > What about the terrorists the USA has trained? What about the human rights
> > abuses the USA funds? What about the international laws it breaks? Dose none
> > of that matter? Are only the results of that important to you? Terrorism is
> > ugly, but you is often motivated by a just cause.
> 
> Look, I am not saying the US is perfect-- yeah, we have made some misteaks, but
> we have done FAR GREATER good.

So as long as the US saves more than it kills that is OK?

> The world's insistance upon focusing on the
> US's warts is getting rather tiresome-- doesn't your country have some problems
> of its own it needs addressing?  And if one of them is terrorists, we'd be
> happy to help you out.

The irony is that most of the terrorist acts perpetrated in the UK were
actually funded by your countrymen.

> 
> > > As far as how we "do things in our country"-- we are the model, the freest
> > > country on earth.
> 
> > If you are white had have money perhaps.
> 
> That, my friend, is racism, to which I won't dignify with a response.

Many thanks to those who educated John on this.

Scott A

> 
> -John



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(...) Look, for every "Ghandi" type example you give, I could give you 100s where the little guy gets squashed. There is no "real power", just power. (...) Your little parody fell on deaf ears because it isn't even *remotely* analogous. (...) I will (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) I was measuring it militarily. How would *you* measure it? By height? (...) Well, you guessed wrong. The US doesn't happen to rule the world; she just makes sure that nobody else attempts to do so. (...) Look, I am not saying the US is (...) (24 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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