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Re: The Free Super Chiefs
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 21 Mar 2002 19:28:43 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes:
> > As a hypothetical example, if you had ordered $1000 worth of LEGO and it
> > was delivered to me in error, would you accuse me of stealing if I kept it
> > and didn't pay for it? Or how about if I saw three Super Chiefs sitting on
> > a delivery cart and I helped myself to them? How would that be tangibly
> > different?
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> In the first example, if the item was addressed to you, it would be the
> same. See below for analysis. If it was not addressed to you, then
> keeping it is stealing. This is different in a material way. Helping
> yourself to three off the delivery cart is also stealing, and worse than
> keeping a wrong delivery.
Darn. Good points. After I posted, it occurred to me that my analogy was
flawed, but it was too late.
> > According to every formal discussion of Christian values I've ever heard
> > regarding "thou shalt not steal," the situation described would certainly be
> > stealing, as much as accepting too much change from a cashier or failing to
> > report that your gas meter only records half your usage. If you got
> > something to which you aren't entitled and/or for which you didn't (but
> > should have) paid, you've stolen it.
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> If it was delivered by the USPS, you are by law allowed to keep it if
> you did not order it. Since they only tried to order three, not 6, the
> 2nd three were not ordered. I think one can assume similar rules for
> other delivery services.
Legally, sure. But the issue was "is it stealing based on Xian values?"
and I think it fairly clearly was.
Dave!
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| (...) I think it's still debatable. Of course I mentioned that depending on the circumstances, I would take the effort to help the sender correct their mistake. While I don't call my self a Christian, it is certainly in my values to try and be fair. (...) (23 years ago, 21-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) In the first example, if the item was addressed to you, it would be the same. See below for analysis. If it was not addressed to you, then keeping it is stealing. This is different in a material way. Helping yourself to three off the delivery (...) (23 years ago, 21-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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