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Re: Cuba
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Mon, 3 Sep 2001 08:46:36 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> 
> > > Let me restate, unless you believe slavery and theft are OK, no matter how
> > > trifling the justification for them, communism is immoral. So is any mixed
> > > economy, actually, but less so.
> > 
> > Slavery and theft indeed.
> 
> I know that we've been around this bend in the river before, but what exactly
> are your objections to those terms?

I assume, after reading you text below, this is a rhetorical question?

> Checking the dictionary and massaging the
> concepts just a little (really just a tiny little bit) (actually, not much at
> all) they sound good to me.  The only problem is that their use is poisoning
> the well.  They are not the terms used when one wants to actually discuss the
> notions.  They are the terms best used in fits of macho flash.  Either Larry
> doesn't really want to get into this one yet again, or he was macho flashing
> because it felt like everyone was needling him about tiny little details of his
> wording, rather than reading for comprehension.  I'd buy either excuse,
> personally.
> 
> > How objective you are.
> 
> Pot, kettle, black.

I try my best Chris.

> 
> > Materialism in western
> > society is the current norm. You should not feel that anything else is
> > "immoral".
> 
> Why?

Because is is a argumant which has no logic.

> 
> > It must be asked why the US victimises this country due to what
> > you call "immoral" politics/economics, but is eager trade with others (China
> 
> If I had someone to ask that, I would.  I can't personally figure it out.  I
> wrote to my Senators when China was up for PNTR urging away from it.  Oh well.
> But I'd also like to ask how you think the US is victimizing Cuba.  It seems
> to me that we've taken on unprecidented responsibility in helping the Cuban
> people who can get out.

By helping force them to leave?

> 
> > & Vietnam) and defends one of the most brutal murderous of countries:
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1258000/1258187.stm
> > 
> > Any answers?
> > 
> > I have one : $
> 
> Agreed.  And it's disgusting.
> 
> You can't get me in a tizzy by slamming the US.  I just like you to be right.

I am not "slamming" (or at least I do not mean to) the US. I am only
slamming the lobby groups who dictate the agenda in this area.

Scott A

> 
> Chris



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(...) I know that we've been around this bend in the river before, but what exactly are your objections to those terms? Checking the dictionary and massaging the concepts just a little (really just a tiny little bit) (actually, not much at all) they (...) (25 years ago, 30-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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