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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > Did you or someone you are closely related to live in a communist bloc
> > country? If not, you have no basis for this statement. Further, while some
> > other systems may also have territorial aggrandisement tendencies,
> > libertarian and anarchocapitalist ones don't. (1) See, I get to use the "you
> > aren't comparing to an actual instance of X" defense too.
>
> So, let me get this straight:
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> If I or my parents or another relative did not live through
> the experience, I have no basis--regardless of the data--to
> make such a statement and challenge your characterization
> of Communism?
That appears to be exactly what I did say. Put that way it's untrue and flat
out wrong for me to have said it and I admit it without any prevarication,
denial, or hiding behind "bad wording" defense.
I am heads down on something (you can tell by when I posted that, after a
long gap with no posts, that I was out of pocket most all day yesterday) and
will say what I meant to say (and address other points in the post) soon,
when I have more time to word it correctly. Meanwhile, apologies.
++Lar
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| (...) Not "as they see fit." That again imputes capitalist values and a hierarchical structure to the actions of communist leadership. "For the common good" is more accurate. Now, *in practice*, it has often *been* "as they see fit," true...but (...) (23 years ago, 30-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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