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Re: Are we doing the right thing?
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Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:32:33 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Eaton writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Geordan Hankinson writes:
> > The red october's orders are to destroy new york with their new silent
> > "catepillar" technology. The orders to use the weapons are from the
> > politian's,
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> Wait a sec... What? Now I'll admit it's been a while since I've seen the
> movie, but weren't they just testing the caterpillar technology? I don't
> think there were any plans at all about using any weapons on the US.
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> > Captain Ramius then decides on his own, rather than nukeing New
> > york, to go against orders and defect. He also kills the political oficer on
> > board the sub to ensure his plan of non-violence works.
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> Well-- 1st off, that'd be an odd tactic-- If I remember correctly, the
> political officer is the only one who died in the movie; and had he had his
> way, nobody would have died at all... the US would just be intimidated. At
> least, by my memory.
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> > The US (or anyone) could design a weapon to destroy the world and have it
> > aimed at any particular country, that weapon means nothing until the
> > politicains give orders to attack. Weapons mean nothing unless they are used.
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> But one could argue also that we'd be safer without them, since the only
> time they're *not* dangerous is when they're not used. The problem is that a
> lot of weapons building up *IS* actually a trigger for war. The more one
> country looks superior, the more other countries fear it and try to
> counterbalance it with alliances, etc, until you get a chain reaction like
> in WWI.
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> DaveE
Which is exactly why that foolish missile-defense nonsense is so dangerous.
We're liable to create just the right conditions for a nuclear "incident" with
this money-sink, er, national defense system. This whole issue just makes me
sick to think about it.
james
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| "James Simpson" <jsimpson@rice.edu> wrote in message news:GIy92A.9r3@lugnet.com... (...) With that logic, I'd expect you to next say that bulletproof vests on police officers invite criminals to shoot them. It is imperative to our national security (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Wait a sec... What? Now I'll admit it's been a while since I've seen the movie, but weren't they just testing the caterpillar technology? I don't think there were any plans at all about using any weapons on the US. (...) Well-- 1st off, that'd (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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