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(...) Judging by stats today? The foundation is just as likely to be Divorce as it is to be Marriage. 50% goes both ways, bub. (...) The foundation of what? {Your} idea of what the US should be? Ignoring the fact that it is a 20C construct? (...) (...) (20 years ago, 10-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That really depends on the animal - the smarter they are the more they can move away from "instinct". My bird can put words, individuals, and activities together without me attempting to teach him in the slightest. The dog can do the same, if (...) (20 years ago, 10-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Take a look around. I think you are denying the obvious. What would you assert the foundation of our society is? (...) (snip) (...) I didn't say it was the norm, just the foundation. (...) I doubt it. Cultures with strong, nuclear families (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Could it be because latin cultures are fundamentally matriarchal? Pedro (20 years ago, 9-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Really? Do tell... (...) I don't exactly know what reality you live in anymore, John (if I ever did), but I've got news for you - the Nuclear Family is a 20th C construct, and it is falling by the wayside. It is anything BUT the norm anymore. (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Then we disagree. (...) Yes, but neither are you "all for" sex either, unless you are willing to advocate beastiality, incest, etc. You draw your lines, I draw mine. There is no difference except in degree. (...) Of course. Do you have another (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I don't think so. (...) You're "all for" sex with only one partner, of only one certain sex, in only certain ways, under only certain circumstances. Right? (...) To start, I'm assuming that you agree with American Heritage in that the nuclear (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm surrounded by Abrahmics. I'm not sure if I have enough perspective to verify what you're saying. My experiences with Indians (fairly extensive across fifteen years in university and IT) do lead me to believe that they (at least the ones (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: (snipping) (...) It is a misnomer to characterize the Judeo-Christian tradition as antisexual. We are all for sex, but within the context of marriage. Sex outside of marriage erodes at the institution (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) This is a really good question, and I hadn't thought about it in those terms. I guess I would have to note, as you suggest, that attempts to reinvent sexuality (or the expression thereof) are met with vigorous resistence, often by the very (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yikes! He'd have to be Ronald Wilson Schuler the 3rd, then--both my father and I are first-born sons, too! Dave! (20 years ago, 9-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ronald Wilson Schuler has a nice ring to it... Chris (20 years ago, 9-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What is the link you see (or want to see) between time-in-culture and publicity? Maybe the fact that religion keeps reinventing itself is specifically why it stays newsworthy while human sexuality is mostly static. (And note that when we do (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'll say that. When "one's will" is the pursuit of basic human rights and every other avenue of approach has been reasonably exploited to no avail. It's not like they just want extra chocolates or something. (...) The right to worship is a (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No harm done--it gave me quite a chuckle, actually! (...) Nice! Dave! (20 years ago, 9-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My bad. I think I need to adjust the settings on my sarcasm filter. (Sorry for the misinterpretation!) The whole putting Reagan on the dollar reminds me of the push to add him to Mt. Rushmore back when he left office. (...) And I keep telling (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm curious as to why you thought that this assertion, of all of them, was serious! Aren't you more worried about the mandatory renaming of firstborn sons? (...) You're related to our current president? That's so cool! Dave! (20 years ago, 9-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is absolutely the most absurd statement I have ever read here on LUGNET! Your memory must be as bad as Ollie North's. I can still vividly remember the outrage that I felt watching North's congressional testimony about Iran/Contra. His (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Count on a professional newspaper columnist to articulate so clearly what I have been saying for the past three years. The Bush Administration has abused the 9/11 tragedy as an excuse to engage in a deplorable deterioration of human rights. The (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Of course it was a joke silly. In the same way as Dave!'s assertion was a joke. But in Lar's special way, its also a jab. And I happenned to be feeling a bit anti-establishment, defender of the oppressed at the time. Its all this reading about (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) They keep making monkeys outta themselves over the religion issue. :-) -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 8-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) As Bruce pointed out, the famous "Scopes Monkey Trial" originated here, and now (URL) another case> has arisen from Rhea County's particular education policies. (20 years ago, 8-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I heard Bush intends to rename himself "(URL) Bonzo>". (...) Did Bonzo not prevent much of those files from being (URL) published>? Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 8-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) His corpse isn't even cold yet, and already (URL) opportunists are circling.> Other initiatives include an Amendment to the Constitution enshrining Reagan as The Greatest Human of All Time, the placing of statues in His image in every public (...) (20 years ago, 8-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Richard is a nice guy; I'm sure he did no mean that. Personally, I don’t draw a huge distinction between the “deliberate killing of innocent people” and the indiscriminate/disproportionate use of force which results in the “killing of innocent (...) (20 years ago, 8-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Oops! Good point. My sincere apologies also to any people whom I've libeled with false allegations of sanity. 8^) Dave! (20 years ago, 7-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) For the sake of literary snobbery, I did a little looking over the weekend, and here are two examples I came up with: (URL) From Book One, chapter 4:> Winston thought for a moment, then pulled the speakwrite towards him and began dictating in (...) (20 years ago, 7-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It was a clever, logical twist on the assertion of Dave! (a joke) (...) Well, from your statement below, that's not saying much. (...) ??? Except those who aren't? (...) "Consummate sense"? Explain and cite please. Are you saying that the (...) (20 years ago, 7-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And your insistence on the distinction implies that there is some doubt as to Dave!'s sanity. I am prepared to vouch Dave!'s sanity. (Mwa ha ha ha. MWA HA Ha ha.) Then again, I think pretty much everyone is sane. Even the folks John habitually (...) (20 years ago, 7-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nor, for that matter, does it necessarily follow that sanity is possessed by Dave! (that was a tough one to get to come out correctly(1) in under 90 seconds of thought) 1 - ... having the phrase or sentence end in Dave! (20 years ago, 7-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I resent the fact that you're painting with such a broad brush. Just because I agree with you on this issue, doesn't make me sane. :-) Chris (20 years ago, 7-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm. In the UK {all} the parties produce “manifestos” for General Elections; they can be bought at bigger newsagents for ~£5 (US$8-$10). The elected party is expected to stick to their manifesto (esp. if there is no change of leader). When the (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I spent some time there a few decades ago. It's nice to know the old western PA colloquial still exists. Brings back memories... Enjoy, Don (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Whoa--I recognize that accent! Are you from the Pittsburgh area? Dave! (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Oh, I don't know, maybe just that I need to get out and see more movies so as I know what yins all are talkin' about. (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I hate to have to tell you this, but JMS was actually a few decades behind his time! Orwell pegged all of that stuff way back in 1948! I'm not a B5 fan, so I can't comment on the particulars of that series, but it sounds like JMS was offering (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) <snip> (...) I was thinking that season 2 thru 4 of Bab 5, specifically regarding President Clarke's assention to power and the corruption thereof, with all the 'homeguard', the 'poli-speak', and the 'if you're not with us, you're against us' (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Whoa, a blast from the past. I loved Hemo! (...) What's your point-- that blood isn't formed by a bunch of tiny people named Nemo? Next you'll probably assert that prostates can't write articles! JOHN (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, what does it say to you, exactly? Franks' interview in Cigar Afficianado is now a matter of public record, so it's fair game for my question. I've never seen (URL) The Siege>, so I can't comment on the relevance of that piece of fiction (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Sorry, I just found it interesting that google returned this link: (URL) the second page of my search for terrorist movie references. Apparently that's where you get all your material. It's got your question, your cigar mag reference, (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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