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Re: Question for the sane out there
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 9 Jun 2004 07:46:06 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Parsons wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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Nor, for that matter, does it necessarily follow that sanity is
possessed by Dave!
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And your insistence on the distinction implies that there is some doubt as
to Dave!’s sanity.
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It was a clever, logical twist on the assertion of Dave! (a joke)
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Of course it was a joke silly. In the same way as Dave!’s assertion was a joke.
But in Lar’s special way, its also a jab. And I happenned to be feeling a bit
anti-establishment, defender of the oppressed at the time.
Its all this reading about what it will take to overturn the ‘New World Order’,
and how it begins with solidarity. I imagine I will get over it, and I
seriously doubt that any Lar’s were harmed in the making of the post.
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I am prepared to vouch Dave!’s sanity.
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Well, from your statement below, that’s not saying much.
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Didn’t say it was much ;-)
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Then again, I think pretty much everyone is sane.
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??? Except those who aren’t?
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Well obviously. Otherwise I’d have said ‘everyone is sane’, and there are some
few about whom even I have my doubts (although none of them are in the
international news).
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Even the folks John
habitually thinks of as psychotic seem to make consummate sense to me.
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“Consummate sense”? Explain and cite please.
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Somebody else can show you how to search for ‘john neal’ and ‘psychotic’ or
‘inhuman’, or ‘unjustifiable’, or ‘unreasonable’ to get your cites.
But these will only tell you when you said it, not when you thought it.
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Are you saying that the
diliberate killing of innocent people makes “consummate sense” to try and get
one’s will done? What if that will is a religious, holy one? Essentially,
it appears to me that you are endorsing a “2 wrongs make a right” stance.
Where is the “consummate sense” in that?
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I don’t actually see the logical link between the two things you’re telling me
I’m saying.
In any event, to recap for newbies who haven’t seen John ask me the substance of
this question twice before, no I am not recommending it, no I am not suggesting
it is justifiable, no I am not suggesting I would do it (although I would hope
never to be tested on this as others routinely are).
BUT it is a predictable and understandable outcome of a given set of conditions.
So it makes sense. And the logic and understanding of it requires no dramatic
leaps of faith or specialist knowledge, beyond a smattering of history enough to
see that it has happenned before, and a recognition that not everyone else in
the world feels bound by the strictures I choose to impose upon myself. It is
internally consistent, of practical consequence - indeed, examples abound.
So I’d say it makes consummate sense.
It makes consummate sense that when the trigger is pulled, the hammer falls, the
propellant is ignited and projectile expelled. It requires no great mental
athletics to understand it. Most folks catch on readily enough. And it makes
sense regardless of how you feel about where the bullet goes.
No matter how offensive and insane and heretical it seemed at the time, it turns
out that the system IS heliocentric. And those that wailed endlessly about
offense and insanity and heresy only got in the way of the rest of the folks
understanding it.
As a general point, almost everything makes sense if only you think about it
from other possible points of view. And if it doesn’t, you need another point
of view. Some turn to god. I find its generally enough to read some more and
think harder.
Richard
Still baldly going...
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| (...) It was a clever, logical twist on the assertion of Dave! (a joke) (...) Well, from your statement below, that's not saying much. (...) ??? Except those who aren't? (...) "Consummate sense"? Explain and cite please. Are you saying that the (...) (20 years ago, 7-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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