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Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
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Fri, 4 Jun 2004 16:25:24 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
   Well, thanks for nothing, Don. The reason I asked it here is because I was hoping to learn what people in this forum think, rather than what the distilled wisdom of the Internet has to offer.

Sorry, I just found it interesting that google returned this link:

http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:ZxTwHLsCi9cJ:www.williambowles.info/spysrus/terror.html+movie+terrorist+strike+martial+law&hl=en&start=17

on the second page of my search for terrorist movie references. Apparently that’s where you get all your material. It’s got your question, your cigar mag reference, everything. And google corrolated it with a bunch of blather about some silly movie. That says something to me.

Well, what does it say to you, exactly? Franks’ interview in Cigar Afficianado is now a matter of public record, so it’s fair game for my question.

I’ve never seen The Siege, so I can’t comment on the relevance of that piece of fiction to the current political landscape. I will say that Orwell’s 1984 parallels much of the policy of Dubya’s administration.

  
  
   Did you know kids are to watching the the latest Hollywood has to offer for science class? What do you think of that?

Are you talking about The Day After Tomorrow, universally deplored by everyone with an iota of scientific understanding? I haven’t heard that it’s been used in science classes, but if you have a link to a story, I’d be happy to read it.

I happen to know of a local high school Earth Science class who went to see it for a field trip, but I don’t know how the discussion went afterwards.

Well, then we have to exclude that example from the debate, don’t we? The class could have discussed the farcical doomsday scenario shown in the film or they could have discussed its merits. Without knowing which is the case, there’s no way we can formulate an opinion of the example.

   Here’s a UK link that talks about using the trailer.

http://www.ase.org.uk/htm/teacherzone/upd8/upd832/upd8climate.php

“This summer’s massive disaster movie ‘The Day After Tomorrow’ goes on global release on 28 May. It dramatically (if not entirely accurately!) brings home the tremendous dangers and costs of global warming. This UPD8 activity shows how global warming causes flooding, and gets students to devise a British flood strategy. Students then present their strategies as manifestos aimed at winning votes in upcoming elections.”

Okay, so the trailer is being used as a springboard for discussion. As long as the film isn’t treated as a factual document, then what’s the harm? However, perhaps the assignment should relate to discussing the factual shortcomings of the film, to show how serious scientific issues can be misrepresented.

On the other hand, I had to watch the film Hemo the Magnificent at least half a dozen times throughout my schooling, and never once did we discuss the inaccuracy of portraying the anthropomorphic incarnation of blood.

Dave!



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  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Whoa, a blast from the past. I loved Hemo! (...) What's your point-- that blood isn't formed by a bunch of tiny people named Nemo? Next you'll probably assert that prostates can't write articles! JOHN (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) <snip> (...) I was thinking that season 2 thru 4 of Bab 5, specifically regarding President Clarke's assention to power and the corruption thereof, with all the 'homeguard', the 'poli-speak', and the 'if you're not with us, you're against us' (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Oh, I don't know, maybe just that I need to get out and see more movies so as I know what yins all are talkin' about. (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
 
(...) Sorry, I just found it interesting that google returned this link: (URL) the second page of my search for terrorist movie references. Apparently that's where you get all your material. It's got your question, your cigar mag reference, (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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