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Here are some 'yes or no' questions and I've already supplied my answers for you, Larry. Hopefully, these are all the answers you need: 1. Do I think the current Zionist state of Israel has a right to exist? No. 2. Do I think the state of Israel (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
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"Tom Stangl, VFAQman" <talonts@vfaq.com> wrote in message news:3BC2954C.27A2A3...faq.com... (...) How are the US, Canada, and the UK "vastly different countries, with different mindsets"? (...) It seems to me the above is comparing apples with (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Fatwah
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(...) Hmm. I don't think it's accurate to call this a band-wagon episode, unless we're accusing the LP of jumping on its *own* bandwagon. Whatever else can be said of the LP, they've been entirely consistent in their views regarding the right to (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Will Larry ever answer this?
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(...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | A challenge to Larry which he will huff and puff about but ultimately not answer – (nothing new real
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I forgot to change the title (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: "White man's club":...another smear by Scott
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(...) For the record, I quoted your post as I remembered it as being a good summation of the argument, and I still think it is. So what was it then? An accurate representation? (...) OK. Larry, I shall retract my comment if you can show us that the (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Looks like the attacks on Kabul have started
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(...) Are you saying we should listen to Berliners rather than the aid agencies? (...) The aid is dropped from "high altitude", we'll be lucky if we hit the correct mountain. Before 11th, 5000 tonnes of aid was getting to the Afghans per day. 5000 (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Fatwah
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(...) For the record, I quoted your post as I remembered it as being a good summation of the argument, and I still think it is. Scott A (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is rich coming from you! As I have said before (and you have not denied it) you are in deluded denial regarding the situation in both Sudan and Iraq. The *facts* have failed penetrate your preconceived notions. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Fatwah
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(...) Shame on your for not aswering the point. Are you to fool to see that you are now smearing me? Don't you like the truth. Lets take a quick look at www.lp.org Take a look at this band-wagon: (URL) bus hijacking shows need for 50-state (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is nothing more than cultural arrogance. (...) Nope, the truth. smear (ACCUSATION) noun [C] an accusation which is unpleasant, unreasonable or unlikely to be true and which is made publicly with the intention of harming a person's (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Fatwah
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(...) Are you really that naive? (...) In your opinion. (...) Nope, you are now. (...) Nope, a fact. (...) You are trolling. Scott A (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | "White man's club":...another smear by Scott
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(...) Any such implication was unintentional and is hereby disclaimed. :-) ++Lar (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Fatwah
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(...) I take issue with the implication that my post was filth. 8^) But I agree that my post was hardly the beginning or end of that thread, so curious readers would do well to explore it further. Dave! (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Fatwah
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(...) to go read the whole thread, in fact. Calling the LP a "white man's club", with the baggage and implications and all, is one of your worst smears ever. Shame shame for bringing it up again but you must be running out of other filth to fling. (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Before I start feeling any worse about myself (j/k folks), my comments at (URL) weren't meant to _refute_ Berlusconi as such, just to indicate that he is coming from a very biased perspective. I suspect there's a link between his "politics" (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More on Palestine
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(...) You didn't miss it, I don't think this particular question has ever arisen here. I freely admit I don't know the answer. (...) Some military theorists say the originial partition boundaries were indefensible and therefore unworkable. Israel's (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More on Palestine
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not sure if this might be helpful, and I'm aware it's not an "independant" site, but I thought it made for some interesting reading: (URL) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More on Palestine
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(...) What's yours? Did you like the one that Scott posted which he claimed was from the FBI? Where are you going with this repeating questions without being willing to answer them when they are posed back at you? (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More on Palestine
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(...) thinking about how events would unfold. Had these events unfolded as promised, the PA would recognise the right of Israel to exist, correct? Yet you still apparently do not, correct? I went to what I think is the official PA site www.pna.net (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, but I am saying that when people here and elsewhere pop up and say "we're no better than they are" that those people are delusional, disingenious or deliberately distortive. (...) He's not my friend. He just happens to be right about (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Fatwah
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(...) When I posted it I was seriously questioning, not trolling. Subsequently I did some more digging in the background and have begun to wonder if my preconceived notions of Islam as generally moderate and peaceful were correct or not. I'm still (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More on Palestine
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(...) Quoting: "moderate Arab states (and Syria)" Note the conjunction, used here to connect DISSIMILAR things. If *the speaker* had felt Syria was moderate, he would have said: "moderate Arab states including Syria" or words to that effect. So *the (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sticks and stones may break my bones, but new ideas will never penetrate my preconceived notions, and I'm completely safe from ever having to reconsider the truth! Is that your version? Really Dan, when you get around to addressing the ideas (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Looks like the attacks on Kabul have started
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(...) Ask a few Berliners about the effectiveness of aerial delivery of relief supplies... If you read anything at all about the air drops, you would find two things: 1. They are not expected to be the sole delivery mechanism 2. They are targetted (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Fatwah
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(...) I need to qualify this a little. The "white man's club" refers to the LP. This issue was covered well in a post made by Dave Schuler some time ago: (URL) A (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More on Palestine
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(...) Terrorism is the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives. (FBI) I think this is good, (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Big words. But I am still not clear on what you mean by "free". I have asked you before, but yoy refuse to answer: ====== ====== (...) This is a joke coming from you, in the last weeks you have shown me that you don't understand (amongst (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
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(...) This is news to me. So why are criminals criminals? (...) lol Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: More on Palestine
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(...) I agree. (...) (URL) leader Yasser Arafat told Israeli reporters the PNC would be prepared to vote on the anti-Israel clauses, going further than the conditions laid down in the Wye River agreement. The Wye accord commits Israel to withdrawals (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you now saying Syria is a moderate Arab state? Who said this: "Some countries are better than others. Syria is one of the worst on just about any metric you care to name. Any metric." Do you views change with the wind? Scott A (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Fatwah
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(...) Larry you failed to answer my question: "Where you seriously questioning that the text may have been out of context, or was this just a troll?" Answer please? This thread, your membership of a white mans club and your new found respect for the (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: War
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(...) Look at what he wants for these places, you will see it is what the public there wants. (...) That is why I said "more fredom" not "freedom". (...) I agree. (...) It depends on what you mean by freedom. The west has a lot of wealth. More than (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea?
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(...) Are you saying this war should change to a war against Islam? You are welcome to your new friend: From the Guardian ==+== Mr Berlusconi is living proof that there is nothing inherently superior about western civilisation. The Italian prime (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Larry, tell me which nations on the U.N. Secruity Council have NOT sponsored terrorism. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: PA censoring journalists again, but repudiating bin Laden...
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(...) I can't agree with your last statement. I know were I would rather live (as a native). (...) I agree with you on this last comment. I just can't understand it. People seem to forget that his clumsy actions actually started violent cycle which (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Looks like the attacks on Kabul have started
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(...) I thought this was good too. But then I read this last night: (URL) Day, chief executive of Care International, said yesterday: "Air drops make great TV but they often represent a failure to respond to a food crisis." Barbara Stocking, (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Some people would say that terrorism is the act of attacking civilians with the intention of reaching some kind of a (political) goal. During these discussions, the word terrorism is actually a problem. The problem is that the word is (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're probably right, Tom, and I can see the difference, too. I simply asked what your definition of terrorism is? ROSCO (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What defines terrorism? Is it the act itself or the people who do it? Or is it situational? During the Revolutionary War, George Washington was a terrorist to the British and obviously I disagree with that. Dropping nuclear weapons on innocent (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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