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Re: More on Palestine
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Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:26:33 GMT
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> Democracies and free societies tend not to do that sort of siting.
Big words. But I am still not clear on what you mean by "free". I have asked
you before, but yoy refuse to answer:
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> No, the 'free' world...
This is a joke coming from you, in the last weeks you have shown me that you
don't understand (amongst other things):
Freedom
Liberty
Freedom of Speech
Freedom & liberty
From http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=13318
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SA
> > As for "first principles", I have become convinced that you do not even
> > understand what "freedom" really means. What tipped the balance was this post:
> > http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=13204
LP
> I'm totally comfortable with what I said there and see no contradiction.
> Feel free to explain how it shows that I don't understand what freedom
> means. Freedom does NOT mean letting those that violate your rights get away
> with it if you can help it.
SA:
Your comfort is irrelvant. You said what happened on the 11th was an attack
on "freedom and liberty", I'm just asking you to justify that (if you can).
This text questions the premis that it was an attack on freedom and liberty:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4266289,00.html
The author takes it apart. It is a long text, but well worth the read. Read
it, and then tell me what you mean by "freedom and liberty".
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Freedom of Speech
From: http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=12631
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If I were Saddam Hussein, who has made the foolish mistake of exulting, I'd
be enjoying the running water while I could. That country needs to be
disassembled too, their citizens freed, and the oil pumped out and sold to
pay war reparations.
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Collected your thoughts yet?
Scott A
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