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Subject: 
Re: War
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Tue, 9 Oct 2001 08:14:23 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Horst Lehner writes:
> Hello Scott,
> 
> while I agree to some thoughts of your analysis, I have to oppose this one:
> 
> > They were a reprehensibly selfish and perverse attack for  a
> > little more freedom and liberty in places like "Palestine", Iraq and
> > Saudi-Arabia.


Look at what he wants for these places, you will see it is what the public
there wants.

> In no way does bin Laden or the Taliban stand for more freedom.

That is why I said "more fredom" not "freedom".

> Look at Iran
> and, even worse, Afghanistan. Only the leaders are enjoying freedom there.
> 
> Yes, we need to understand WHY they do things like 911, and Larry seems not
> to be the type of guy to be ultimately helpful with that. (After all, each
> of us has his strengthes and weaknesses ...). Yes, I feel that some of the
> freedom we in the west enjoy goes too far, because it limits freedom
> elsewhere in the world.

I agree.

> BUT we will not want to give up the idea of freedom
> as a whole, and that's OK.

It depends on what you mean by freedom. The west has a lot of wealth. More
than enough to share.

Scott A

> 
> Greetings
> 
> Horst



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  Re: War
 
Hello Scott, while I agree to some thoughts of your analysis, I have to oppose this one: (...) In no way does bin Laden or the Taliban stand for more freedom. Look at Iran and, even worse, Afghanistan. Only the leaders are enjoying freedom there. (...) (25 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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