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(...) There are somewhere between 1.25 and 2.0 billion Muslims on the planet. I am lucky enough to know some of them. I read the sliver of text you quoted. I think about my experiences. I think about my understanding of Islam. Based on that alone I (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The latter. If something has been incorrectly subsidised in the past the solution is not to jack up the subsidies of everything else you can find that remotely competes with it. Highways and airtransport have been unfairly subsidised in the (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm NOT sure, hence I asked. My hunch is that you can go rooting through the New Testament, or especially the Old Testament, and find similar passages. My hunch is that you can go through the Koran or OT or NT and find very peaceful passages (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Do you have the right to pollute by means of an automobile? :) Scott A (A Car owning cyclist) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, we do have the right to travel by modern conveyance -- a right recognized under common law since the time of Magna Carta. Applying this argument to the a.k.a. "driving privilege" is not too complicated -- getting the courts to (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Actually, I think he may have been somewhat sarcastic, as CNN has been doing live coverage since Sep. 11th. But that's just what I got from his post. (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Likely, only those passengers who take the "safe" flight would be ensured. The "unsafe" flights would quickly become a national security risk as any determined terrorist could take the "unsafe" plane and turn it into a missile. Oh, well, we knew (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Do you think Amtrak should get more than the $24B *subsidy* it has had since 1971, or do you think roads should get less *investment*? Scott A (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What if? (...) No I don't. And those have to do (I believe) with children who are institutionally abused, more than with firearms. The firearm was a only tool...a means of expression. (...) say (...) Why is it that Europeans often start in (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What do you think? Are you even unsure? What is your hunch on this? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Well, OK some of you didn't think is was *that* scary. Check this out: (URL) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh, I agree with you, totally! He SHOULD NOT be driving. So then... you concede that since the state nevertheless issued him a license, that licenses don't work to keep unsafe drivers off the road, right? That's what the example is (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.pt)
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(...) Ummm, 8007, 8008?? They actually encourage you to buy both so the storm-trooper can shoot C3PO in the chest, and watch it's (OK it *is* a 'droid) head & arms get blown off. ROSCO (disclaimer: yes I own both, yes I think the mechanism is neat, (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The article seems a bit myopic, lacking in a historical perspective. The basically tribal societies of Afghanistan and indeed the five central Asian former Soviet states could continue see-sawing for centuries. The U.S. and Osama conflict (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I also dunno about the context thing, but further down in the article "Crusaders" are mentioned to be "terrorizing" the people living in Arabia. Obviously, it is an interpretation made by people who must think the 12th century isn't over yet (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And what would it be done to prevent fraud, then? (...) So why not put a 5-year-old driving a Humvee, if his father can pay for the damage? As for the case of the old man, it is up to him and his family to provide alternatives - this way he (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.pt)
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(...) What if the permit is almost granted to be issued, unless one is declared "unfit"? (by a number of reasons, including possibly being a lunatic or a terrorist) (...) And then you get really shocked about stuff like Columbine, Waco, or that (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Horst Lehner writes: (Snipped) (...) Horst, I couldn't agree much more! Add "Portugal" to that paragraph, please... Pedro (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Maybe... but then again, it is highly unlikely that any portuguese hasn't had ancestors of different races/ethnicites, thus noone can pick on me for that. Besides, names here are all alike, for all ethnicites. (...) Ah, fame... I can count (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.pt)
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(URL) hadn't read this before. I also haven't read the Koran (there seem to be many possible spellings of this, I've also seen Qu'urran, for example) But this quote from the beginning of the fatwah HAS to be taken out of context, right? "But when (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) (was?) this analysis correct? What do people think? Is today's action likely to undermine any Taliban crumbling, or is it more of a "take out the air defenses so the aid aircraft won't get shot down" that won't strengthen Taliban resolve? I (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That 'live on CNN of course' seems like a barbed comment. If I'm wrong please forgive my assumption but are you saying 'typically we're hearing it from a large American corporation' to which I would say that it was equally live on BBC News 24 (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Indeed. I realise that I was insufficiently precise when I said I oppose bombing by the US, what I should have said was "bombing by itself". BTW the Taliban has responded. CNN is a bit slow right now so you may want to try to find this AP (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't get it. Aren't they? Chris P.S. They can't be all bad...after all, Tough Borris cried when his parot's days were up. (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, here's to hoping it remains an attack against the Taliban and that we'll do the right thing when we're done. At least the immediate plans include a massive perfusion of aid to refugees, so that's a start. Chris (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And the cannon are just for firing 21 gun salutes... And surely, the falling masts on the Red Beard Runner and the Armada Flagship are just a nifty feature to make it easier for the crew to change the sails... I just don't buy the idea that (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I have mixed feelings about this, in one way think they deserve it, but in another way I feel for the families in Kabul, even though they are strikning Taleban targets(ie military) The civilians don't that, they must be EXTREMELY scared. My 0.02 (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Live on CNN of course lawrence (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Triage, in other words, applied to oppression! (patients that you cannot help, don't. Patients that will recover without you, don't. Concentrate on the third group, those that will benefit from your help and which would die (continue with (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Disagree. You could be typing from an office in any nation in the world. I would assert (with no intent of proving it) that there are net connections into virtually every nation at this point. (...) We have exploited others wrongly and have (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes. So what? (...) I'm not as great an advocate for this legality thing as you are, so it is of relatively less import to me. (...) Ultimately, I (think I) think that it ought to be up to those funding the change. So if it's a US thing, then (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right now by typing this text in my humble little office I am enjoying my freedom of speech. My ability to do this is based on the past actions of HM Gov and UK industry. Denying the rights to others have given us the $$ to pay for the (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is all very worthy. 2 Questions. 1. What is the wealth of "richest nation in the world" based on? Hard work? Some human rights abuses? Exploitation? A mixture? 2. If taking action on the Afghans for their "egregious human rights (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What do you mean 'based on.' I would agree with the assertion that the freedoms we commonly claim to be self-evident and inalienable are freedoms that we are unwilling to let some others in the world live with. And that's wrong. But I don't (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You could have. You simply did not like the connotations that doing so implied. It's not like I asked what the value of pi is. (That would have been unfair.) (...) Of course. And presumably that's your answer too. So you could have just (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I suppose all those pirate skeletons died of old age? :-) (...) I have purchased around 80 sets with Darth Maul and in every single one he was bisected. (...) ...to tie maidens in front of... (...) ...to enact Death Race 2000 (for which LEGO (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well can you? Over the weekend that has been used as an example of how things can go wrong. Can you justify your words? (...) Perhaps *I* did not, but *you* did say this: "I would indeed *like* this to be a real war (...) , because I see one (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Please don't assume that those of us who didn't comment in any way disagree. I didn't write because there was nothing to say. Yup, it's disgusting. Actually, I don't bear Afghanistan much in the way of grudge because of their role in the (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So what did you mean when you said this : "I would indeed *like* this to be a real war (...) , because I see one as needful"? (...) That is indeed heartening. Before 11th Sept 4000 tonnes of food was reaching the starving each day and today it (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think they do to, and that is my point. As I have said before, I think Larry has a rather selfish view of what freedom means and that is why he is unwilling to justify his comments in the context of the text I have referred him to (although (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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