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Hello Ross, (...) Please, explain what a nonviolent attack is. BTW: I was not talking about Flight 93 when I first posed my question about pacifism ... Greetings Horst (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hello Larry, (...) <snipped a lot of Larry's answer> (...) I can certainly agree to this statement. My original question was geared more towards the type of action required to - make sure radical islamists are isolated instead of multiplied - (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) :: in the voice of the ugly american :: Demned Fer'ners! Wha' isus, uh freakin' luv-in?! -- Hop-Frog (some frogs have teeth) (23 years ago, 25-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That *is* kind of scary. It should serve as an indication of how fundamental the crisis of such thinking is, that groups from the far-right *and* the far-left are willing to work together with a broad spectrum of groups in between to oppose (...) (23 years ago, 25-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Holy Toledo. I would have expected a peak of maybe 30% for the ID question (still frightening). That poll was done on 14-15 sep, I really hope the percentage has dropped (a lot) in the last week and a bit. Man. That means half the people (...) (23 years ago, 25-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don't just take my word for it: See the wiretap section of this page: (URL) ACLU and the LP are hardly allies on much of anything these days... except civil liberties). As for your "willing to authorise innocent deaths" red herring, it's your (...) (23 years ago, 25-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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From you know who... The poll results scare the JEEPERS out of me. - start - WASHINGTON, DC -- Americans who want to fight terrorism by mandating Taliban-style "special identification" for Arab-Americans, by allowing police to randomly search (...) (23 years ago, 25-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ahem. If you didn't notice, this is .debate. We'll not be having any of that socialistic "concurrence" crud here! If you can't say something adversarial about someone here, we'll have to pelt you with MegaBloks. [1] ;D (...) "I bring you ... (...) (23 years ago, 25-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The US has sent $124 million to Afghanistan to buy food this year, topping the $114 million last year. The amount of wheat sent there is about 10% of Pakistan's exports. So at least our money went for food? Powell said "Our [UN] aid bypasses (...) (23 years ago, 25-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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i whole heartedly concur! i think i will use your letter as a model for my own. fight war with love! -lenny (...) listen. (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Maybe, maybe not. This is definitely on the agenda, however: (URL) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) looks good and it really does.I am looking forward to seeing it in person. (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.build.arch, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Try this, for an idea on why that stance may have to shift: (URL) the Obvious" here: (URL) ) --DaveL (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) him for what he's done well. The interactive historical atlas that this is a part of is pretty amazing... the TOC is here: (URL) is a LOT more there than just the map of Israel that David refers to. I liked some of the animated GIFs best. For (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A few references Israel's changing border: (URL) Vetoes of UN Resolutions Critical of Israel (URL) general assembly resolutions here: (URL) security council resolutions here: (URL) another perspective -- take it or leave it (URL) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And Bricksmith Brian Stokes too. ((URL) I dunno if he's a full prof or just an instructor or what. He, wisely, stays out of .debate as well. It's kind of like a cross between a drug addiction and the sick pleasure some get in watching a train (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Um, can I have it be just the sort of movies I watch instead of all of them? Then my life would be romantic-comedy-SF-porn. (but no horror, I never watch those) You know? I think I would LIKE that. FUT fun (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) A lot. Some have passed, and some, as you point out, have been vetoed. I would ask you though, if you think UN resolutions are something to pick and choose from, or whether one has to accept them all. If the latter, does that mean you (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think Mike's comments here demonstrate a vital tension in Western society, and possibly all societies. One of the defining attributes of social living is task specialisation: farmers, soldiers, leaders. An individual can have many strings to (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not tenured, adjunct at best. All of our dignity has been thoroughly crushed. :D (Wait, why the heck am I grinning about that?!?) John Ladasky too, but he doesn't poke into .debate AFAIK. best LFB (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Jeff Stembel" <jeff.stembel@noaa.gov> wrote in message news:GK5zvA.FJ9@lugnet.com... (...) Well there seems no end of do gooders who want to blame most other things they dont agree with like drugs, violence, sex, etc, on the influence of (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: why not just give them the Olympics? (was Re: From a mailing list)
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"Scott A" <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com> wrote in message news:GK6C76.MpA@lugnet.com... (...) I see one of the spokepersons at the Liberal Democrate Party conference today called for the Afgans to be bombed with food. regards lawrence (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) certain (...) my (...) democracy? (...) in (...) of (...) That's ridiculous. (...) - David (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who threatened you? Maybe I missed it. (...) I'm not hiding behind anything, I'm here whenever you want to follow through on YOUR OWN statements. Stick to the facts: You got rude, I drew a line, you insisted otherwise, I said prove it, you (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Because violence begets violence, hates begets hate. The only way to overcome it and live in peace is to not play the game. But how can the Palestinians overcome a bunch of racist, exclusionist thugs like the Zionists especially when they are (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, I calls them as I sees them. And if anything, I was trying to antagonize people into being anything BUT political sheep. You should do as pleases you. But I wasn't attacking you for anything more than defending the words of a man I (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Okay, if I made threats, then what did I threaten to do to Tom? He was the one who threatened to treat me rudely in person. I thought it was clear that I was calling the barking dog off his porch. And I also thought I made it clear I had no (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Did I ever threaten any specific person in here with direct violence? No, but I got threatened by cowards. (...) Showing your stripes again - hiding behind insults. I am far from a coward. If something really matters to me, I'll defend (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would like to bring the people responsible to justice. Just not by whatever means necessary. I believe in a measured approach that risks as few American (and other peoples') lives as possible. I'd just like to point out that if bin Laden is (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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David: Okay, now we are caught up in nit-picking over the incidents of both sides and what constitutes protecting citizens when some of them are de facto PLO members who oppose and resent Israeli rule. We might as well stop here... No one is (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I have to agree with the general emphasis of the text below. If the richer nations of the world could share a little of their wealth then perhaps the world would be slightly better. Feeding the starving inside Afghanistan lets the Afghans see that (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Democracy. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Dave Low" <stinglessbee@hotSPA...Email.com> wrote in message news:GJx646.ICw@lugnet.com... (...) of angry (...) picture. (...) Show (...) I actually replied to myself. Scott A (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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"Daniel Jassim" <danieljassim@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:GK1t0t.6G7@lugnet.com... (...) terrorist (...) I have to agree with this analogy. Who sponsors this terrorism? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why expect me to "debunk" this? I do not offer blind support to the Palestinians - although you do appear to blindly oppose them. I am not an apologist for Palestinians or the Israelis. You should not forget that the Israelis have sought to (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GJx8oE.2rq@lugnet.com... (...) Rights? (...) of (...) With regards to airport security, I would have thought you would want to leave it to the airlines to improve security? (...) (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Lindsay Braun at an absolute minimum... (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) would (...) threats (...) this (...) maybe (...) I'm a very nonviolent person. The only time I can imagine resorting to the use of force is when I'm physically threatened and I can't run away. Up until now I've always managed to avoid the (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Huh? Those are just movies, not real life, so why would we expect it to happen? Are you suggesting that people in other countries get ideas to blow up American buildings from watching them? I suppose by that thinking, everyone's life should be (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 'terrorist (...) This seems to assume that the UN is perfect. What if the UN chooses to use force against a government's people or property to make the government tow the line? Isn't that terrorism? Chris (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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