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    WTB Train Parts —Mike Poindexter
   I am looking to buy the following: Train Doors with glass: Black, Blue, Yellow, Gray, Red, White - $3.00 1x4x3 Train Windows with glass: Black, Red, Blue, Yellow - $3.50 Gray, White - $4.00 1x2x3 Train Windows with glass: Gray, Black, Red, Blue, (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jul-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: WTB Train Parts —Larry Pieniazek
   I'll pay more than he will. :-) followups to .auction (...) 4.00 for blue, yellow or grey. I have enough black and white. 4 dollars for the red that you DON'T get in 5571, nothing for the one you do. (...) 4.00 for black and red, 4.50 for yellow, (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jul-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.market.auction)
   
        Re: WTB Train Parts —Mike Poindexter
   Well, I feel like I have been attacked. (...) Well, that is mighty white of you. First off, I can have anything I will outpay you for. I will match your bids Larry - across the board. Second off, this is an offer to buy, not an auction, so please do (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
   
        Re: WTB Train Parts —John Neal
     Mike- I do not think Larry means to offend. What he has done is initiate a sort of reverse auction, thus his follow-up to .auction. I think by setting prices, you have automatically set yourself up to be outbid, especially on these items, where I (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: WTB Train Parts —Simon Robinson
     From all my dealings with Larry, he's a great guy and often goes out of his way to help people here. So I think John's right in that Larry wouldn't have meant to offend. Plus I agree it is legitimate to make higher offers for bricks. HOWEVER, I do (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: WTB Train Parts —John Neal
      (...) Well, I said a "sort" of reverse auction, meaning that it was *initiated* by a buyer, not by a seller, which would normally be the case in an auction. Larry doesn't do anything *normal* <except play with bricks> ;-) -John (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
   
        Re: WTB Train Parts —Mike Stanley
     (...) Hrmmm.... having dealt with Larry in many ways I don't see what he did as a "jerk thing to do" - it's just an honest thing. Larry likes the same kind of parts you do, and it seems like, with some of them, he either likes them more or is (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: WTB Train Parts —John Neal
       (...) Kinda hard to swallow with deep pockets like Lar & Russell around;-) But Mike's right. See AucX: (URL) , bottom of the page. Hello garage sales;-) -John (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: WTB Train Parts —Mike Poindexter
     (...) It is not that he offered more that offended me, but rather the tone. It seemed smug, but perhaps I read it with the wrong tone. It is hard to apply a tone to text accurately, but sometimes simple statements may look different to other people. (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: WTB Train Parts —Mike Stanley
     (...) No, I'd say Larry is smug sometimes. I don't really see that as a bad thing - I'm just used to it. (...) Maybe. New people buy from me all the time. I'm not unknown to most people, but I see several new bidders who have registered and placed (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
   
        Re: WTB Train Parts —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) I find that statement racist and highly offensive. Just thought you might want to know. Certainly you're not constrained from using it, but it is important to realise that other people share my view as well, so you may want to consider that. (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jul-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
   
        Re: WTB Train Parts —Mike Poindexter
      Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message news:<37A31290.13E5B...er.net>... (...) As for the statement "mighty white of you," it would be offensive to anyone it is directed at, as it usually points out poor behavior. I have never seen (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jul-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: WTB Train Parts —Larry Pieniazek
      I've followed up to .debate for a few points (25 years ago, 31-Jul-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: WTB Train Parts —Larry Pieniazek
      Insulting is an art form. One needs to choose the proper sized brush. This is an example of unintended splatter, I think. (...) If you'd said "that is mighty generous of you", it would be offensive in an acceptable way, in context... that is, you'd (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: WTB Train Parts —Mike Poindexter
       Larry, I think this may be a misunderstanding based on differences in meanings of phrases. Either one of us doesn't know the true definition or the definition has changed in different locales. When one is generosity is described as "being mighty (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           whiteness (was Re: WTB Train Parts —Larry Pieniazek
        Fascinating. To reiterate, I have always understood "mighty white" and "mighty christian" to be equivalent insults (to non whites and non christians, respectively). There isn't a dictionary per se to go look these up in. we build our understanding (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: whiteness (was Re: WTB Train Parts —Jesse Long
         Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message news:37A3C5AD.CDFF9A...ger.net... (...) I've always been under the impression that to be an indian giver is to act as the US did in giving the indians some land and then coming along and taking it (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: whiteness (was Re: WTB Train Parts —Todd Lehman
        (...) The Lewis and Clark expedition notes talk about this, yes. Not necessarily randomly snatching something back, but, say, giving back a gun and taking back a horse when the gun was no longer needed, or deemed to be of little value compared to (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: WTB Train Parts —Mike Stanley
        (...) I was born and grew for a while in California and grew up to adulthood in Tennessee. I've heard people say "mighty white of you" in both ways you describe. Any kind of attempt to assign a meaning to a phrase like that is doomed without (...) (25 years ago, 2-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: WTB Train Parts —Mike Stanley
        (...) <snip> (...) Just noticed what might appear to be a contradiction here. Not really, if memory serves. The few times I have heard "might white" mean something that could be interpreted as racist towards non-whites, it was also clearly meant as (...) (25 years ago, 2-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: WTB Train Parts —Paul Sinasohn
       IIRC, from my undergraduate folklore and linguistics classes at UC Berkeley, the phrase "mighty white" originated in the southern states before the War Between The States, and carried the DENOTATION (exact meaning) of "honorable in business (...) (25 years ago, 3-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: WTB Train Parts —Larry Pieniazek
       Thanks. That supports my contention that the phrase is insulting to non whites. It may have transmuted in meaning over time... (...) (25 years ago, 4-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: WTB Train Parts —James Brown
       (...) I suspect it has. I have always seen the phrase (or similar ones) in a context that is racist, but towards whites, not vice versa. In my experience, "mighty white of ya" is usually (contextually) an implication of dishonest dealing. (giving (...) (25 years ago, 4-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: WTB Train Parts —John Neal
        James Brown wrote: <snippage of putting down whitey> (...) That's mighty Canadian of you, James [1] -John [1] Ya hoser;-) (25 years ago, 4-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
      
           Re: WTB Train Parts —James Brown
       (...) So, like, does that mean you want them? One time offer, eh. Unless you've got beer. I'll, like, give them all to you if you've got beer, eh. Koorookukukukukuku! So, like, welcome to the Great White North, eh! James (URL) (25 years ago, 5-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
     
          Re: WTB Train Parts —Jasper Janssen
      (...) That is just _so_ gay.[1] Jasper "I live under bridges" Janssen (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: WTB Train Parts —Jesse Long
      Jasper Janssen <jasper@janssen.dynip.com> wrote in message news:37bac394.436675...net.com... (...) I catch myself using that one (dating myself a bit, unfortunately) sometimes. I'm more concerned about getting in trouble than offending someone, (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: WTB Train Parts —Tom Stangl
     (...) That's all it is, I don't see how to take it any other way. Personally, it offends me, though I don't care a spit about the rest of you guys' arguments, because I don't have any train windows to sell, except maybe some red ones from 5571s, and (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: WTB Train Parts —Mike Poindexter
     (...) it (...) Tom, Perhaps I have come to understand only one meaning of that statement, or perhaps I don't see it as racist. Either way, it was not meant as a racial slur. Also, I think that Lar was referring to not wanting the train _door_ from (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
   
        Re: WTB Train Parts —Todd Lehman
   (...) Regarding the "subtext" to which you referred, I wonder if it was more so a violation of general etiquette about dragging personal issues into a public forum. Your publicly stated intention to roil MikeP doesn't set a good example to others, (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jul-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
   
        Re: WTB Train Parts —Mike Poindexter
   (...) Todd, I realize that this should not be hashed out here, but I felt slandered and needed to give my defense in the same place the offense took place. I have given all the information I need to and have nothing more to say in the matter. If (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
   
        Re: WTB Train Parts —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) It would have been nice if Todd had commented on the point a number of folks talked about, that is, whether your thread, after I pounced on it in bad humor, is now an auction thread or not. It's actually an interesting meta question and gets (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
   
        Re: WTB Train Parts —Mike Poindexter
     In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Larry Pieniazek writes: <Much snippage> (...) Lar, Apology accepted. I would rather not get in net fights with my fellow Legomaniacs. I think we just have an honest differing opionions of what was said versus what (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: WTB Train Parts —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Ya, that's the ticket. I was just talking about that to my wife, Morgan Fairchild... :-) Someone should send them the absolutely insane prices you and I seem to be willing to pay... at those prices a decent pack would be 99.95. (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: WTB Train Parts —John Neal
       (...) "Whom I've seen naked" <sorry, *could not* help myself> (...) How pathetic are we? Most of us would be glad to pay it, too:-p It absolutely boggles my mind, because it isn't as if they don't know how in demand these elements are. They *must* (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
     
          which group? (was: WTB Train Parts) —Todd Lehman
      (...) Just a quick note -- this would really belong in .general (not in off-topic.debate) right? After all, "off-topic" in the context of .off-topic means "non-LEGO", not "off the original topic": (URL) .off-topic.debate is for debates not related (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.admin.general)
     
          Re: which group? (was: WTB Train Parts) —John Neal
       (...) You are correct, sir! Yes! I was wrrrrr..... I was wrrrrrr.......I was wrrrreally in the camp of the misguided;-) But my offer still stands:-) -John (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: WTB Train Parts —Steve Bliss
      (...) Even at lower per-piece prices, a decent pack would *still* be 99.95... Steve (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: WTB Train Parts —Gary R. Istok
     Whew!!! This whole thread has left me spent and exhausted. I'm glad its over, and I'm glad you guys settled this amicably. I like both of you, and certainly don't like to see bad blood over Lego. For a moment there I thought I was on RTL witnessing (...) (25 years ago, 2-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: WTB Train Parts —Scott Edward Sanburn
     (...) Speaking of which, Gary.... :) I met Mark K. over the weekend, we traded some cash and some (well, all) of his space sets and we were talking about it. Scott Sanburn (25 years ago, 2-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
   
        Is it an auction or not? (was: WTB Train Parts) —Todd Lehman
   (...) It wasn't immediately clear to me whether your pounce was competing against MikeP by offering higher prices for something wanted by both of you, or whether your pounce was declaring minimum prices that you as a seller would accept from Mike if (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, lugnet.market.theory)
   
        Is it an auction or not? (was: WTB Train Parts) —Tony Priestman
   In article <37a489f9.1493045@lugnet.com>, Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> writes (...) It struck me when I got on the net last November, and the conviction remains, that the buying and selling of Lego *bricks* as opposed to sets *is* a commodity (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
   
        Re: Is it an auction or not? (was: WTB Train Parts) —Steve Bliss
   (...) I was kind of wondering the same thing. Although I wasn't thinking of a group, but more of a web-app. Steve (25 years ago, 2-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
   
        Re: Is it an auction or not? (was: WTB Train Parts) —Mike Stanley
   (...) Sounds good to me. You volunteering to write it? :) If so, I'll host it. (25 years ago, 2-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
   
        Re: Is it an auction or not? (was: WTB Train Parts) —Steve Bliss
   (...) Let me think about it. I'm setting up for a parts sale (hopefully will be posted tonight), and then I've *got* to polish off another update to LDao. Then maybe I can think about learning how to work the web. Steve "How do you spell Java?" (...) (25 years ago, 2-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
 

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