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    ebay rant —Lawrence Wilkes
   Just wanted to moan about ebay. Too many rubbish auctions getting in the way Besides the obvious con artists, things I dont like 1. ridiculous start price. It's like setting a reserve, but without incurring a penalty if no one bids, as I understand (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
   
        Re: ebay rant —Kevin Bannister
     (...) Non-paying bidders! Especially ones who drag the transaction out long enough that you can't give them the negative feedback they deserve. (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
    
         Re: ebay rant —Michael Pratt
     (...) Ditto !!!!! Michael Pratt (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
   
        Re: ebay rant —Kevin Wilson
     Lawrence Wilkes wrote in message ... (...) Agreed. I wish eBay would give us subdivisions of the Lego category (new sets, used sets, new parts, used parts, other) (...) incurring a penalty if no one bids, as I understand (...) There's no penalty as (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
    
         Re: ebay rant —Michael Pratt
     (...) Ditto. I hope those responsible are watching. Michael Pratt (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
   
        Re: ebay rant —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) They paid a higher fee to list it at that price. Honestly, the same stuff on BrickBay is usually priced higher (that's just an observation - I understand the dynamics of two different formats). I must admit I often say the same thing (Who are (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
    
         Re: ebay rant —Ray Sanders
     (...) <snip> (...) That is correct, eBay charges a listing fee (fixed amount based on starting bid) + a percentage of sale, whereas BrickBay only charges a 'percentage of sale' (currently 2%, but I expect it to rise to 3% shortly). A few weeks back (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.theory)
   
        Re: ebay rant —Bob Parker
     (...) snip (...) 7. Sellers say that a "few" of the white Lego are faded, when in fact ALL the white pieces are tan colored! 8. They say the set is "complete" but when it arrives and I build it, between 5 and 10 pieces are missing! - Bob (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
    
         Re: ebay rant —Lindsay Frederick Braun
      (...) That's a photography issue more often than not. Digital cameras often make blue appear lavender and white appear tan. (...) Yeah, that stinks. Caveat emptor, and leave that feedback! best LFB (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
    
         Re: ebay rant —Michael Pratt
      (...) As a regular e-bay seller this is a tough one. Invariably you get a mixed box of lego and some plans. You build a set according to the plans. How do you actually know what bricks came with the set when it was new ? I always used to say sets (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
    
         Re: ebay rant —Kyle D. Jackson
     (...) This is my biggest bug! In all of the non-MISB sets I have purchased, something around 25% is all that are complete or match the auction description (like "complete except missing these specific items", and then more are missing than listed). (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
   
        Re: ebay rant —Adam Murtha
     (...) "Will ship to the United States only" I know that it has been discussed here before, and I'm not trying to start another debate, but sellers who will only sell to the United States really bug me. Adam (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
    
         Re: ebay rant —Michael Edwards
      Same here, but if you email them they normally let you bid :-) Providing you pay within the terms... -- Michael Edwards Lugnet Member #151 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bionicle Island (URL) shop - Edwards (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
     
          Re: ebay rant —Lindsay Frederick Braun
       (...) I know that on the rare occasion I run a US-only auction--usually because I have a short deadline for receipts--I almost always allow this. If someone's willing to contact you and work with the terms of the auction, why not? But I understand (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
     
          Re: ebay rant —Adam Murtha
      True, if I am interested in something enough, I will ask the seller, and they will usually agree if I pay the exact shipping to Canada. And why wouldn't I or anyone else? Isn't that how most auctions are ran, buyer pays shipping? Adam (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
    
         Re: ebay rant —Tom Stangl
      Note that a HUGE amount of German sellers only ship within Germany. (...) -- | Tom Stangl, iPlanet Web Server Technical Support | Netscape Communications Corp | A division of AOL Time Warner | iPlanet Support - (URL) Please do not associate my (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
     
          Re: ebay rant —Paul Sinasohn
      (...) Yes, but with the EC, they can't refuse to ship to another EC country. BTW, a big thank you to Jan Albert!!! Paul Sinasohn (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
     
          Re: ebay rant —Kyle D. Jackson
      [FUT lugnet.market.theory] (...) Really? I would have thought that would only apply to commercial sales. It seems stupid for legislation to control private sales like that. KDJ ___...___ LUGNETer #203, Windsor, Ontario, Canada (23 years ago, 29-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.theory)
    
         Re: ebay rant —Mark Chittenden
     Being a eBay seller, I can understand why someone would only ship to a certain location. Mail from overseas to the US takes a long time, and in some cases can even take more than a month (long time to wait for a payment for an auction). Also, if (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
   
        Re: ebay rant —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) After running though all your numbered points, I forgot to answer this! :-) Inflated "shipping and handling" fees. Charging 10 bucks to ship something Priority mail that I've shipped for $3.95. I understand that people make guesstimates on (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
    
         Re: ebay rant —Adam Murtha
     I hate inflated shipping and handling charges too. I won a Lego sith infiltrator in an auction for really cheap, and I was pleased, until I found out I had to pay $10 US to have it shipped to me, which including 'handling'. I was really surprised (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
   
        Re: ebay rant —Richard Marchetti
     How about... 1) The mere appearance of consumer protection through useless programs like "Safe-Harbor." The reality is that you are not protected in any way under a certain amount, and that even should you qualify for the protection eBay is (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
    
         Re: ebay rant —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) That's a good one. Pretense indeed. It's funny but eBay can at different times screw over both buyers AND small sellers. The only guys that are safe are the big time sellers. In fact, the whole eBay feedback system is flawed... if you are a (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
     
          Re: ebay rant —Lawrence Wilkes
       "Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GH639p.2HE@lugnet.com... (...) Why does it take two trips? Dont the US post office have an on-line postal calculator? Enter the weight, desintation, method of shipment and voila the (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
     
          Re: ebay rant —John Radtke
       (...) Aye, there's the rub. To enter the weight you have to know the weight. Most people don't have more than a bathroom scale at home. I don't even like that much inaccuracy to determine Priority weights to the nearest pound, and it's virtually (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
      
           Re: ebay rant —Lawrence Wilkes
         "John Radtke" <jaradtke@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:GH6sJo.H2B@lugnet.com... (...) What? No one cooks in the USA? I already know the answer to that one - No. Guess you could take your lego to the resturant and ask them to weight it for (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
       
            Re: ebay rant —Mike Walsh
          "Lawrence Wilkes" <lawrence@thewilkesf...rve.co.uk> wrote in message news:GH6y40.4n6@lugnet.com... (...) news:GH6sJo.H2B@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] Even if you know the weight it can still be a crap shoot on international packages. (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
        
             Re: ebay rant —Ray Sanders
          In lugnet.market.auction, Mike Walsh writes: <snip> (...) IMHO, thats silly. Weigh the package. Measure the dimensions. Go to ... (URL) Enter the weight and destination country. Check the package dimensions against what it lists out to the right. (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.shipping)
         
              Re: ebay rant —Larry Pieniazek
          (...) Reread your own post... then tell me that all those extra steps don't make international shipping a pain in the butt. That's all some of us are saying. I do sell internationally but I understand why some sellers can't or won't be bothered. (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.shipping)
        
             Re: ebay rant —Rob Doucette
         (...) Shouldn't be a crap shoot in terms of package weight. Letter Post is up to 4 pounds, not insurable. Parcel post is insurable but usually cost prohibitive compared to Letter Post for small packages. The crap shoot is in the package *size*. Some (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
       
            Re: ebay rant —Rob Doucette
        (...) Food scales don't work well, the platforms are usually too small. I use a Pelouze PE10 postal scale, $84 at OfficeMax.com, they usually have on-line coupons (check FlamingoWorld, I think I ended up paying $50 delivered). Its a 10-lb capacity (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
      
           Re: ebay rant —Ray Sanders
       (...) Go read this message and look at the picture ... (URL) The scale on the left is good up to 4 pounds, with resolution better than 1/10 ounce. Bug you local postmaster. Ask him where the regional (or district) surplus postal equipment auctions (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
      
           Re: ebay rant —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) Reread your own message and see if you can determine why I think international is a pain in the butt. Domestic prio just needs to be accurate to 1/2 a pound. I have better than that already with my Pelouze. You want me to go to a postal (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
     
          Re: ebay rant —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) I've got a Pelouze, a pretty accurate scale, and I have access to the rate calculator (although it's a pain to use... my scale and my shipping supplies are two stories away from where my computer normally is, and I have no plans to put a (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
    
         Re: ebay rant —Kyle D. Jackson
     (...) I'll second that. I much more prefer to buy from Europe than Canada or the USA. When someone in Europe says the set is in excellent condition, it really is! When someone in North America says that, it only means that the pieces haven't been (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
   
        Re: ebay rant —Tom Stangl
     (...) Actually, I prefer higher starting bids to Reserve Prices - at least you KNOW the minimum they will take. (...) Because it will sell sooner or later. I've been auctioning off some Libretto accessories. My last lot went unsold in a 3Day (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
    
         Re: ebay rant —Frank Filz
     (...) Additionally, if the price is high enough, it can scare off the competition. (...) Yea, it's annoying, not much to do about it. (...) Agreed. I often check out the poorly described lots. I've won some nice stuff that way. (...) As long as the (...) (23 years ago, 27-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
   
        Re: ebay rant —Mark Chittenden
   (...) Okay, go ahead. :) (...) Without incurring a penalty if no one bids? Sorry, but depending on what the STARTING price is, they already 'incurred a penalty' by having to pay a LISTING fee. It's 0.30 cents (US) just for LISTING an auction (with a (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jul-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
 

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