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    Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) Ya, this really gets up my nose, as they say in the UK. Let's review, one more time, the blue hopper thing, because, after all, it's me that Richard is talking about. Paul made the knowledge available to a few people, including Simon Denscombe (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.market.shopping)
   
        Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Scott Arthur
     (...) I must have missed the "Hey everybody, BB is getting BH way cheap" message? (...) So you bought 96 not knowing was a "gold mine"? (...) What were the risks involved on the BH thing? (...) How many 3rd world economies have been turned over to (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.market.shopping)
    
         Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Larry Pieniazek
     FUT off-topic.debate (...) So did everyone else, there wasn't one. I don't know if you've run the numbers, but phone calls cost money to Paul. Every call means time he has to spend on the phone, and that's time that he isn't waiting on customers. He (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.market.shopping, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Scott Arthur
      (...) I think Lego is for making constructions... not making money. As a lot of people know, my aim is to keep it self sufficient. Which is harder for me, as a lot of people are put off by the fact I live in Scotland. (...) A long waffling diatribe (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Frank Filz
      (...) Everyone seems to ignore the efforts and costs of the phone calling. I didn't get any hoppers because I didn't force myself to get up early enough in the morning to call from home since I've never bothered to get a phone card so I could call (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Peter Callaway
      (...) Oooooooohhhhhh! If only I hadn't blown my LEGO budget!! I'd love to get my hands on a couple of these for a good price!! Bugger!! Pete Callaway (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Scott Arthur
      So has BB now sold out of these (8880's)? (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Peter Callaway
      (...) Who's this Peter Hallway???? Is he new???? Pete Callaway (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Richard Franks
      (...) Yeah, he signed up at about the same time as Scott Understairs-Cupboard. Ahh... subtle British humour... (1) Richard (1) WHERE HAS IT GONE???!?!?!??!?! (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Peter Callaway
      (...) A little too subtle, even for me. I've been called "Caltex", "Kelloggs", "Crawlaway" and a few un-postables, but never "Hallway". One minor fault I have is that I can be a bit precious about the spelling of my surname, as very few people get (...) (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Richard Franks
      (...) Nah, it's not a fault - stick with it! It's a common courtesy to get someones name right. Just now the web seems to be filled with affluent 'westerners', but when it becomes a more truely global medium, we'll be grateful for all the practice (...) (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Peter Callaway
      (...) True, but one doesn't want to appear like a prude, although I do have long time friends who insist on sending Christmas cards addressed to "Peter Calloway". Arggggg!!! (...) I think there is a very real distinction. Whilst British humour tends (...) (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Scott Arthur
     (...) Every new customer Paul gets, is one that might come back again. I'm sure he'd be happy if he sold a few of these sets to new customers. (...) Lego is for making constructions, not making money. I sell on ebay/trl/lugnet to get money to buy (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Mike Stanley
      (...) So if Larry were selling coffee beans or stock (as he does - the stock, not the coffee beans (or does he?)) then it would be ok with you if he sells them for "money" or would it only be ok if he sold them in order to be able to buy more of (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Scott Arthur
       (...) I'm not "presenting" an argument, I'm just answering the question. That is what I do, you, or anyone else, are free to do what ever they want, or at least I hope you are. (...) Did I say that? (...) As you did with this post? (...) What are (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Mike Stanley
      (...) The same thing Larry did. And of the same thing I'm doing right now - not bothering to actually respond to anything else you say at all, ignoring an opportunity to actually further discussion, but simply coming back with an almost smartass (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Scott Arthur
        (...) It was hardly worth saying it then? (...) Now I'm not sure if I like _your_ tone. If I ask questions you don't like, just ignore them. Scott A (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Mike Stanley
        (...) Other than to let you know that not just one, but two people perceive your posts that way. I don't know about you, but when 1 person tells me I'm doing something annoying I might just think it's their problem. When two people (or more) tell (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Scott Arthur
         (...) I'm really tempted to tell you what _I_ think. But I do not think that is anyone's interest, including my own I suppose. All I'll say is people in class houses should throw stones. Scott A (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Larry Pieniazek
        OK, OK, let's drop this. Scott, you do snipe at people and you're not the only one from the UK (or the US for that matter) that does. It annoys me to no end to carefully craft a response and have most of it ignored so the responder can score some (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Scott Arthur
        <384689C9.2BC09E99@hw.ac.uk> <38468B94.73FC33EC@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) I won't respond to this. (...) Just take it that I agree or have no opinion on the points I do not respond (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Scott Edward Sanburn
        (...) This is a major misperception from what I have read in numerous e-mail posts from people in Great Britain, do you have examples of "limited access" to health care, etc. or is this just a random statement? You can go to any employer here and (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Scott Arthur
         (...) In the UK, you do not have to have employed to have access to, arguably, one of the best health services in the world (NHS). Everyone here enjoys a health service which is "free at the point of delivery" - ie it is paid for via income tax. If (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Scott Edward Sanburn
        (...) Well, it isn't free, someone is paying for it, whether it be you be the income tax or someone else footing the bill, but this point has been debated ad infinitum in off.topic.debate for a long time (March-September or something?) if you care (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Jeremy Sproat
        (...) Thanks for the chuckle, Scott. I promise I won't try to perpetuate a common misconception of America. ;-) However...the first job I was ever offered health care in is my current one as a software developer. No other job I've had -- college lab (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Scott Edward Sanburn
        Jeremy, (...) Misconception? I thought I typed misperception, oh I did. I am glad I can get you to laugh, however! (...) Hmm...I had health insurance from my mom and dad through high school and some college, I didn't have it for three months when I (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Jeremy Sproat
        (...) I say conecption, you say perception, let's just order a pizza. (...) Scott, I may be opening a huge can-o-worms here, but... You got off pretty easy in terms of health insurance, esp. being covered by your parents after high school. (My dad's (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —James Brown
        (...) Really? Shoot. I'm gonna have to stop reading Lugnet, then - I barely have enough responsiblility to cover my work and real life commitments, none to spare for my hobbies. Or can I be irresponsible by removing the responsibility requirement (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
      
           Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Scott Edward Sanburn
       (...) Umm.... Pizza! :) (...) Not really, most companies do this nowadays. (...) Not really, especially considering if that is one of the things you look for. I can find 20-30 positions in Ann Arbor right now that have health benefits with the job. (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Jasper Janssen
      (...) In the best time-honoured manner of Usenet debate. Jasper (25 years ago, 7-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Maybe. But his costs to do a one off are pretty steep and he told me (again, I remind you, I've had some rather lengthy conversations about this topic with him, something you don't yet seem to have internalised) he was glad to have sold a (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Scott Arthur
       (...) That would explain why after that he started up his one per customer rule. A rule which I think he has since set aside... or at least for me :-). What is pertinent about the length of your conversation with paul? I have spoken to Paul 4 or 5 (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) No, it wouldn't. (1) I can't offer an explanation for it either. But I can stick to what I told you he told me about it. That's the truth. (...) Well, we weren't talking about the weather, we were talking about substantive issues directly (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Frank Filz
     (...) I should stay out of pissing matches, but hey, I've got a full bladder so... Another little point in this issue. Is it ok for Paul, or TLC for that matter to make money on LEGO sets? If not, how do you expect to get them? If so, why is it ok (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Scott Arthur
     (...) Frank, if this is aimed at me, I'd just like to say that I have no problem with anyone making money... even those guys making money on the "S@H only" items on ebay does not bother me all that much (I know this goes against the knapp - no (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Richard Dewsbery
   (...) I've replied to this elsewhere. (...) Am I? I ruddy well am not! I had no part in the whole blue hopper thread. And I was not referring to you, but anyone ordering unfeasably large numbers of (usually) very expensive sets. (...) I'll avoid the (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.market.shopping)
   
        Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) Who says you're the Richard that I was talking about when I said "it's me that Richard is talking about". :-) I was talking about the Richard that Mike was talking about. :-) I knew which Richard he meant even if, at the time, he misattributed (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.loc.uk)
   
        Re: e-commerce (was Technic shuttle etc) —Richard Franks
   (...) Ah, but to which Rich was your comment pitched? I'm pretty sure that the only contribution I made to the Blue Hopper thread was to try and get it off loc.uk once it became a discussion of how to get cheap DVDs! I may be wrong, but I searched (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.loc.uk)
 

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