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| | Once upon a time, there were no fests, And that was bad. Then there was The One Fest. And that was good. Then there were more. And some were good, and some not so good. And now there are many. And some are great. And some are brand new and have (...) (18 years ago, 10-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX) !!
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| | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Eric Sophie
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| | | | I always thought a good idea or rule of thumb would be to have one per season, so that would be 4 per year. One for each corner of the continental USA, if we are talking Fests for the Americas. However, with the space the PDX folks have, I can see (...) (18 years ago, 10-Dec-06, to lugnet.events)
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| | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Duane Collicott
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| | | | | (...) Hey, what about those of us who don't live in a corner of the country, like along the northern edge instead? :) There are some fests popping up that are more regional in nature. For example, the event I produce, Brick Bash, is held here in Ann (...) (18 years ago, 10-Dec-06, to lugnet.events)
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| | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Eric Sophie
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| | | | | (...) Thats great and the regional/national events help to create more niche fests or specialty displays and expos. BTW, what is the master listing of world wide AFOL and LEGO events? How many are there? Where are they all and when do they generally (...) (18 years ago, 10-Dec-06, to lugnet.events)
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| | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Eric Sophie
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| | | | | In lugnet.events, Eric Sophie wrote: -snip- (...) Useful Link: (URL) Can you buy a $12,000 pass and get an itinerary from Expedia? Grand Tour Lego Pass 5000 (...) (18 years ago, 10-Dec-06, to lugnet.events)
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| | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Bryan Bonahoom
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| | | | (...) As one of the "fest proliferators" I would like to add my 2 cents... We decided to create Brickworld because there was no centrally located large AFOL event and we believe that there are many midwest, mountain and west coast AFOLs that would (...) (18 years ago, 10-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Anthony Sava
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| | | | | (...) I'd like to respectfully disagree with your labeling of Chicago as 'centrally located.' This event is 18 hours away from me here in Houston. Brickfest in Arlington VA is 26 hours away from me. I drove that, didn't like it. Well, ok, so we did (...) (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Steve Hassenplug
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| | | | | | (...) Actually, I don't think he ever said Chicago was centrally located. He just suggested a gathering there would be more centrally located than a gathering on the east coast, or the west coast. It appears there are about 10 or 12 LEGO clubs (...) (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.events)
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| | | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Anthony Sava
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| | | | | | | (...) Ok, so he didn't actually say Chicago was centrally located. However, he did say, in the quoted text above: "We decided to create Brickworld because there was no centrally located large AFOL event" Which I read as saying Brickworld was (...) (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.events)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Ted Godwin
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| | | | | | | (...) Well, he should have. If you look at a map of North America Omaha may be closer to the actual centre of the continent but it does not have Chicago's status as possibly the largest air and rail hub in the central part of North America. It sucks (...) (18 years ago, 12-Dec-06, to lugnet.events)
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| | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Bryan Bonahoom
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| | | | | (...) Anthony - You are right Chicago is not in the exact center of the country. Let's consider logistics for a moment: 1) St Louis is 4+ hours from the nearest major city and only 3 or 4 major cities within an easy days drive (still 12 hours from (...) (18 years ago, 12-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Felix Greco
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| | | | (...) The proliferation of fests is very similar to the proliferation of web homes. Once there was none and that was bad. Then there was lugnet, and that was good. But lugnet doesn't fit everyone's tastes and needs the same way. So perhaps the (...) (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Bruce Hietbrink
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| | | | I actually have not yet been to a fest, so perhaps my input means less here, but I'm all for having multiple fests each year. To me it comes down to a simple question - do we have the same group of people, now diluted over multiple fests (and (...) (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Steve Hassenplug
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| | | | | (...) Why haven't you attended a fest? Seriously. Is it time? Location? Money? While more events doesn't help with the money, (except for cutting down travel-expenses), it can help with the correct time, or better location. As you said, these may (...) (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.events)
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| | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Bruce Hietbrink
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| | | | | (...) It's been a combination of location and a NLSO. Now that I live in DC, hopefully I will be able to get to the next BF, if only for the public exposition. In the past when I was not near a fest, it's kind of hard to say "Well, honey, I love you (...) (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.events)
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| | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Felix Greco
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| | | | | | (...) You've got to be a newlywed or close to it ;) My wife is a NLSO and she has no problem with me leaving for a few days!(1) Felix (1) I love my wife (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Bruce Hietbrink
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| | | | | | | (...) You guessed it. Anniversary #1 is next week (and I don't have a gift yet!!!). Bruce (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? John Neal
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| | | | | | | (...) NLSO, huh? Well, I guess that rules out (URL) this> for an anniversary gift;-) JOHN (Happy Anniversary:-) (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Ted Michon
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| | | | | | | (...) John- Actually, I think manny if not most women would fine that a terrific gift no matter their LEGO affinity! -Ted (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Rafe Donahue
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| | | | | | (...) I too have a NLSO but I've gone to the past two Brickfests in DC, taking the boys (early teens) along both times. Last summer I also brought my dad, a NLfather. He went along to see some museums and such and help driving from Nashville. He was (...) (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.events)
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| | | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Steve Witt
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| | | | | | | (...) um, please help me out here...NLSO? Steve - the slightly confused (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.events)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Jeramy Spurgeon
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| | | | | | | | (...) I believe it means: Non LEGO Significant Other. -Jeramy (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Steve Witt
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Oooo...oooh. Well that makes sense I guess. I rather like this topic as it has been on my mind as well. The question I have is whether or not some fests have become too much expo and not enough convention. By this I mean, are we putting on (...) (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Ted Michon
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Steve- I think this is a very good point and some of us have certainly discussed it before. A public expo provides: A chance to show off creations to a big crowd Opportunity to spread the word about LEGO A bigger market for vendors An (...) (18 years ago, 12-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? David Eaton
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| | | | | | | (...) Very useful: (URL) (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.events)
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| | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Magnus Lauglo
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| | | | | (...) Bruce, Welcome to the DC area! Hope to meet you at a WAMALUG meeting some time, the next will be in January. (URL) (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.events)
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| | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Mark Rideout
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| | | | (...) Good points Ted. When is southern California going to anti up and get a fest going again? ;) -mark (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Ted Michon
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| | | | | | (...) Mark- I think the LEGO gods have shone the light upon us for NMRA 2008 (July 13-20, 2008 at the Anaheim Marriott, 700 West Convention Way, Anaheim CA 92802). This event is walking distance to the LEGO store in Downtown Disney (and Angel (...) (18 years ago, 12-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Jeramy Spurgeon
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| | | | | | | (...) Hi Ted, By this, do you mean that you'd like to display multiple themes as well? Thanks, -Jeramy (18 years ago, 12-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Ted Michon
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| | | | | | | (...) Jeramy- I'm thinking more about co-locating (in time and space) a general LEGO event with the big LTC effort for NMRA. Possibly even at the same venue (there's a lot of event space at the Convention Center and NMRA is not even actually in the (...) (18 years ago, 12-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Aaron M. Sneary
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| | | | | (...) Having lived in SoCal, and asked the same question many times of many people, I think a lot of it is that there are still some hard feelings after the BricksWest incident. Also, many people have expressed the hard question of whether or not to (...) (18 years ago, 13-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Ted Michon
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| | | | | | (...) Aaron- I think BW is far enough in the past not affect most thinking except, perhaps, to question the viability of Southern CA to attract enough LEGO oriented people. Most of the content at BFs is brought by people in their vehicles and we (...) (18 years ago, 13-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Ted Godwin
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| | | | | | | (...) Well, keep in mind some people have only emerged from their Dark Ages recently as well as living quite a distance away and having spouses and family responsibilities before jetting off to LLC. :) As a family man I would be interested in a such (...) (18 years ago, 14-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Brian Davis
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| | | | | (...) I'm confused. Better prices on what? LEGO (doubtful, as those prices are not driven by competition generated by fests) or things like registration fees (again, really doubtful; I've seen no evidence that those fees are driven by a profit (...) (18 years ago, 13-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Ted Michon
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| | | | | (...) Brian- I agree that fest prices cannot be much of issue affecting national, if not regional, attendance. If you spend $1.5K+ for your family to fly, stay, drive, and eat, you really aren't motivated by a better deal on the $60 per person (...) (18 years ago, 14-Dec-06, to lugnet.events, FTX)
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| | | | Re: The proliferation of fests: Good or bad? Frank Filz
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| | | | Some thoughts of mine: A proliferation of successfull events is good. A big thought on "the one big event": My experience with events encompasses LEGO fan events, Science Fiction conventions, church camps and events, train shows, National (...) (18 years ago, 11-Dec-06, to lugnet.events)
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