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    Enough trans-antifreeze! —David Simmons
   I like this color and all the different pieces it has been made in, but I'm getting tired of it. I've got enough 1x1 round plates, 2x2 round radar dishes, and super-long antenna in this color to choke a camel! How 'bout bring back trans-red and (...) (25 years ago, 22-Nov-99, to lugnet.dear-lego)
   
        Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Aaron West
   (...) Hey Dave, Do you think we could convince LEGO to make transparent (even glowing) purple pieces? THAT would be different. It would make a nice space theme with dark grey and black parts. Perhaps some kind of "wormhole" explorers series... Okay, (...) (25 years ago, 22-Nov-99, to lugnet.dear-lego)
   
        Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Christian Gemuenden
     Very nice, I just love this idea (being a truly space fan). Unfortunately they discontinued the classic space line and the Star Wars license will run more than eight years not permitting TLC to launch any new Space Themes. Rock Raiders and Star Wars (...) (25 years ago, 22-Nov-99, to lugnet.dear-lego)
    
         Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Dan Bobrovsky
      Your kidding me right? no real space sets for 8 years? I have to put up with crappy star wars models for eight freakin years with Themes like Rock Raiders as haphazard substitutes?? Please fill me in on what you know on this subject and also where (...) (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.dear-lego)
     
          Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Kevin Maynes
       (...) Dan, Think of it this way, By the time they are done with the Star Wars license, the next Space line will be fresh and new like that first run in way back when it first began. Add in all the practice the lego folks will have gotten, and it (...) (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.dear-lego)
     
          Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Ray Sanders
       If theres any truth to this ('eight year license'), then it leaves the doors wide open for the other guys (MBs, et al). Heck, it even leaves the doors open for creative AFOLs. All we need are parts, designs & distribution :) Seriously, the SWs line (...) (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.dear-lego)
      
           Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Kevin Maynes
       (...) Just think - if they're locking it into Star Wars for 8 years, they've gotta keep producing sets for that long. Just think of all the parts they'll have to release to keep making those sets. They've already created slightly more usable alien (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.dear-lego)
      
           Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Aaron West
       (...) usable (...) No tomato here! I have to agree, the old space theme was beautiful, coming out of the 1980s into the last "true" theme-Exploriens. Starships and bases revolved around a similar design that I think needed a change. I like the fresh (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.dear-lego)
      
           Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Jeff Thompson
        (...) You consider Exploriens to be the last "true" space theme? Why is that? Is it because the UFO and Insectoid sets come with different looking (alien) helmets? Or something else about the elements included in the later sets? Followups set to (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general)
      
           Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Dan Bobrovsky
        I would have to agree that the Insectoids are truly (in my humble opinion) NOT A REAL SPACE THEME!!! UFO although totally differently sculpted (I'm still a classical type of guy) and not too much to mt liking....is still a true Space theme!! (I (...) (25 years ago, 28-Nov-99, to lugnet.general)
      
           Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Jeff Thompson
       (...) LEGO ships the insectoid sets in boxes marked "Space." They're in the right set number range to be a part of the Space line. They consist of little guys with helmets riding around in spaceships and ground vehicles, just like all the other (...) (25 years ago, 28-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
      
           Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Aaron West
        I just mean that "true" space themes to me were the 1980's sets based on little yellow headed people exploring the galaxy (like in the original idea book). It is mostly a feeling I have from my childhood when LEGO was a peaceful universe where they (...) (25 years ago, 28-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
       
            Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Jeff Thompson
        (...) Smile. That works. But by that definition, at least in my universe, the Insectoid sets are definitely space sets - they don't seem particularly war-oriented - no more so than any other space theme I can think of, and much less so than the (...) (25 years ago, 28-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
       
            Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Aaron West
         (...) On reflection (and a shower) I have to agree about the Insectoids. They do fit my definition of true space. Were I not to admit that, I'd be a racist. Just cause they don't have yellow heads is no excuse not to include them. I guess they just (...) (25 years ago, 28-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
       
            Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Tom Boucher
         "Nephilim" <jthompson@esker.com> wrote in message news:FLwpz7.M8v@lugnet.com... (...) I remember some form of sci-fi type ship that did that. course in the early 80s I was about 10 so things are a bit foggy. I know I didn't own one, but a 'rich (...) (25 years ago, 28-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
       
            Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Lindsay Frederick Braun
         (...) I had the StarBird--the coolest part aside from the engine whine was the way the ship came apart! Play value, and how. But do any of you remember the "counterpart" to the ship--the black one named the "Intruder" or "Invader"? Same concept, (...) (25 years ago, 28-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
       
            Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Aaron West
         (...) of (...) punch (...) is (...) I am building the heavies. Mine has four 360 range L&S cannons and various other weapons. The Launch Command L&S Element (4 so far) serves as drive engines for the beast. Mostly I am working on the (...) (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
       
            Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Lindsay Frederick Braun
         (...) I don't have anything with that kind of armament, but the "concept ship" Marathon still had a nice bit of punch. (four spots with 360-degree coverage? without shooting the ship they're on? I'd like to see that, it must be some layout!) I have (...) (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
       
            Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Aaron West
         (...) Castle (...) Marathon (...) layout!) I (...) is (...) three (...) shower, (...) last (...) Very nice! The trouble that I am having is how to keep mine from becoming the "Rainbow Warrior". I really don't want to have more colors that black, (...) (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
       
            Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Mike Petrucelli
        (...) Castle (...) Marathon (...) I (...) is (...) three (...) shower, (...) last (...) That is a nice ship. Well designed, I like it. It is a little small though. I don't mean to sound rude but it would not survive one hit from my cruiser. (URL) (...) (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
       
            Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Lindsay Frederick Braun
          (...) Depends on what you hit it with. It's not designed to go toe to toe with capital ships; that's what capital ships are for, naturally. ;) The purpose of Marathon was to test modularity in large, multi-lobed vessels; to test the feasability of (...) (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
        
             Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Mike Petrucelli
         (...) Just looking at the pictures earlier I can picture what you are talking about. I really do like the design of the vessel. Your description only increases my opinion of it. I would love to see a color picture. The internal areas apart from the (...) (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
        
             Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Aaron West
           (...) good is (...) I am wondering if I am the only person who thinks that the Hydronauts with the blued-silver deep"space" helmet (add a black visor) makes an awesome shocktroop for boarding raids and heavy combat? I've assembled a large amount of (...) (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
        
             Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Mike Petrucelli
          (...) though. (...) cruiser. (...) capital (...) Marathon (...) feasability of a (...) the (...) fully (...) camera (...) the (...) with (...) colours! (...) the (...) vaunted (...) little (...) wouldn't (...) (and (...) ships are (...) Marathon (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
        
             Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Mike Petrucelli
          (...) Yup I did that. They look really cool. Unfortunatly there is no easy way to get 100 of them without alot of other stuff. At least I can use at least 95% of the stuff in 100 Rock Raiders fig packs. I ordered 10 spaceport accessory packs The (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
        
             Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Frank Filz
         (...) I'm always amused when people try and compare things from two different fictional settings... (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
       
            Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Aaron West
         (...) My God, that is a lot of black LEGO. Were (are) you a Blacktron collector? Wow. Aaron (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
      
           Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Dan Bobrovsky
       Just because they are in the 68** or 69** does not mean they have to be space... Are there not Unitron sets in the 17** ??? I'm not contending what the box says... I'm saying in my opinion I've never felt they belonged... just because Lego Say (...) (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
      
           Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Steve Bliss
        (...) *Bbzzztt* Logic error. You're arguing that "If A, then B" is an invalid (ie, false) statement (A = "Set is in the 68** or 69** range", B = "Set is a Space set"). But the example you give is a not-A example (because the set is outside the (...) (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
      
           Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Jeff Thompson
       (...) Promotional or limited (US only, or not-world-wide at any rate) sets are often given numbers outside of their usual range. The unusual number of the Unitron sets makes sense from that perspective. It's true that set numbers are not inviolate. (...) (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
      
           Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Aaron West
         (...) Well, the little Insectoid minifigs actually reming me of the Borg in Star Trek, emotionally they have that space feel, and they have a great parts sellection for space. So while I do like them they feel disjointed because they seem like a (...) (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
       
            Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Phillip Ogden
         Aaron West wrote in message ... <snip> (...) <snip> I had to respond (at least briefly) to that very powerful statement. It is true at face value. I don't think it could (or should) be otherwise. But it is not always a good thing for the long-time (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.space)
      
           Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Steve Bliss
       (...) That's right, UFO wasn't Space, it was Town. 1950's, B-movie, sci-fi Town. ;) Steve (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
     
          Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Christian Gemuenden
      Hi again, sorry for all the trouble I might have caused, I am new to lugnet. But the fact that the Lucasfilm Inc. Contract includes a paragraph that does not permit any further lines seems to be true. I do not know the details in the Contract and (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.dear-lego)
     
          Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Larry Pieniazek
      No need for apology, 8 years is the number I've heard bandied about as well... If we assume they signed it in 98 or so, that would take them about to where the final of the first three would be out, so it makes sens. (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.dear-lego)
    
         Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Dan Bobrovsky
      Your kidding me right? no real space sets for 8 years? I have to put up with crappy star wars models for eight freakin years with Themes like Rock Raiders as haphazard substitutes?? Please fill me in on what you know on this subject and also where (...) (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.dear-lego)
    
         Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Alex Roode
     (...) Eight years? That CAN'T be right! I'd say 6 years at the most. Episode 2 is supposed to come out May 26, 2002 (tooo far away!) and EP3 some time in 2005... 5 years away! (...) |w| \ |s| / Mr. "Please don't make me hate SW" SMiley (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego)
    
         Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Karl Martinson
       (...) The nerve of sayin gthings like that, that's what gets people hurt. Shame on you. Mr. "Star Wars is the greatest set of movies EVER, and the best theme that Lego has ever had!" Smiley (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego)
    
         Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Mike Faunce
     8 Years is probably right: EP1 = 1999 release EP3 = 2005 release They'll probably want to sell EP3 sets for at least a couple of years, so, let's say through the end of 2006 1999 to 2006 = 8 years. Maybe longer, could go through 2007 easily using (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego)
   
        Re: Enough trans-antifreeze! —Christian Gemuenden
   Hi Aron, I know I answer again and it is very late meanwhile but the new 2000 sets HAVE trans-purple! (URL) I don't think it will glow in the dark. It is hard to make out but I think 5826 has two new transpurple coloured bricks in there. Well, this (...) (25 years ago, 5-Dec-99, to lugnet.dear-lego)
 

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