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OK, LDraw elitists, The voting page is up: (URL) are a couple of minor changes to the voting format - which may well change again. I am also considering releasing this months "fixes" separately. There are a lot of pieces that have been tinkered with (...) (26 years ago, 9-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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i have a suggestion about the capatlisation of stud.dat could the referenced in the plants tree palm top be made capital? that ewould make it easier top position the leaves. just a thought. (26 years ago, 9-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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2 name suggestions... 1.minifog torso woth train chevron pattern to minifig torso with train worker pattern. 2. minifig ovoid shield to minifig shoild ovoid (for when we eventually move the castle shield ot the minifig catogory. also about the (...) (26 years ago, 9-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) parts like this normally lie flat in the X-Z-plane in LDraw? It makes sense to compare this part with the "Liftarm" parts in LDraw, and they all span the X-Z-plane. Fredrik (26 years ago, 9-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) i aggreee. i was hpoing to see the slope brick 20 4 x 2, plate 3 x 3 corner round, minifig tool pickaxe, wing 6 x 12 and if it is finished the tie fighter bracket piece. (26 years ago, 9-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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i also noticed that the brick 1 x 2 with ferry windows pattern, the mindstorms light sensor, the rubber boat, the harpoon, the arm towball with grabber, the technic half bush type II, the saddle, the 1 x 2 x 2, the knife, the new 9v motor and the (...) (26 years ago, 10-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) The pieces submitted are in the vote. If it is not there, it has not been formally submitted. -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 10-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Hmm... let's see.... Ooh, ick. Yes. I will add that one as well. Good catch. -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 10-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Not sure about that one. That is kind of iffy. The term "chevron" is a pretty good description of the pattern. "worker" doesn't really add anything, as obviously the minifig is a train worker. (...) Good catch. "Shield Ovoid" would be the (...) (26 years ago, 10-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Good point. An alternate idea would be to rotate it 90 degrees in the Y-plane. That would place its default position in perfect alignment with all the axles default positions. What does everyone think? Leave it as-is? Lay it down flat? Rotate (...) (26 years ago, 10-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I believe all of John VanZ's SW parts are due to be released on the 19th. :-) -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 10-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) But this kind of thing isn't done for other parts, is it? Take the bushes, wheels, gear cogs and so on; they must all be rotated to fit the axles. (...) We could just argue that the cam is essentially a pulley/wheel kind of part, rather than a (...) (26 years ago, 10-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Interesting. At least one or two of these are parts that I sent to you, but must not have arrived. I will resend. Steve (26 years ago, 10-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Sorry, but I blew it! I've been creating parts and posting them on Lugnet, but not sending them to Terry. Time to get out the wiffle bats, everyone! I'll get these into Terry today. -John Van SCOTT R DENNETT <dennett@agate.net> wrote in message (...) (26 years ago, 10-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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The harpoon, knife, and 9V motor were in the last vote but either needed changes or we were waiting on the chrome numbering discusion. I did make the fixes and sent them to Terry. The knife should be the only one to require voting, as the others (...) (26 years ago, 10-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Where are all the Star Wars parts John VanZ had done. I thought they were supposed to be in the next vote?? :( I am glad to see that torsos and heads have been worked on. Ryan "Build or build not. There is no try." - Lego Master Yoda ***...*** REPLY (...) (26 years ago, 10-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) cinderella, cinderella, all i ever hear is cinderella... hehehhee. just kidding... FG addressed this to me personally when i presented the part... and i agree with him that this is important (especially since i was the one who started all the (...) (26 years ago, 10-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) actually.. that *is* funny!.. he he heh eeh eh e heh eh e he (26 years ago, 10-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) All I have of Steve's that was not included is the 309p01 baseplate. And I also have Chris's two saddles. So far that is it. OTOH, the the rubber boat is awaiting some further work. The harpoon, knife, and the new 9v motor were held and will (...) (26 years ago, 11-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Not funny? I thought I was being pretty witty. :-) -- Terry K -- (...) (26 years ago, 11-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Changing midstream? No. But I will try to get another voting page up immediately following this one. -- Terry K -- (...) (26 years ago, 11-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Could you include the three torsos which are in the current voting download, but are not on the voting page? 9326p20 Waiter 9326p48/p49 Forestmen Actually, Jonathan Wilson observed that this basic forestman torso also exists with a black (...) (26 years ago, 11-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) which pattern is that? set number? (26 years ago, 11-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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there is no green collar forestman torso... it was an error in my source. (26 years ago, 11-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) 0 Baseplate 32 x 32 Service Station with Pattern That is all I have. -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 11-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Wow. I must be psychic. Or psychotic. I sat down at the 'puter and suddenly had the urge to check the minifigs on the voting page. Dang! Left those pieces off! I then sent an email to Chris apologizing for that, and now (several hours later) I (...) (26 years ago, 11-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Of course, with this background, the Technic Cam already has a proper orientation. Fredrik (26 years ago, 11-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Right. (...) Right. And I've (re)sent you the two newer versions of the half-bush, the towball grab, and (just now) the 1x2x2 brick. Steve (26 years ago, 11-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Oh, come on. That's not funny :( Seriously, what happened, I thought that he had made the neceassary changes right after he got the sets?? I really need them. Could someone possibly send me the dats that they have of them so I can use them as a (...) (26 years ago, 11-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Which torso is this? Is it the one that is on most minifigs in the Camoflouged Outpost(6066, I believe)? If so, It comes in red, blue, and black. Jeff (26 years ago, 11-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yes. Steve (26 years ago, 11-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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So, Terry, since John's going to send them to you, are you going to make a quick update and ask everyone to vote again??? I don't think I could stand waiting more than another month for those parts. :-) Ryan "Build or build not. There is no try." - (...) (26 years ago, 11-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Don't take me wrong, I get the joke, it's just that I want those parts really badly. Ryan "Build or build not. There is no try." - Lego Master Yoda ***...*** REPLY SEPARATOR ***...*** (...) (26 years ago, 11-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Define immediately :) Do you really think people want to waste their time on voting on these pieces and you waste your time on preparing them for voting when you could just kinda slip them into the update ;-) Ryan "Build or build not. There is (...) (26 years ago, 12-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I must have told you that already. It is indeed around 300 (and always growing). Now just don't ask me to list them. :-) -- joshua (26 years ago, 16-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I _thought_ I had a nagging memory of you telling me this. Hey, what do you know, I actually retained something you told me. ;-P Could you list them? -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) The wiffle blows must be doing their job. (...) OK... Plain Blue, blue arms, yellow hands, standard smile Plain Red, red arms, yellow hands, standard smile Plain Black, red arms, yellow hands, standard smile Blue Torso with white buttons and (...) (26 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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some questions: 1. who is the joshuia i keep hearing about? why is he considered an expert on matters lego? 2.terry, can you try and get the fixed parts (the changes to stud.dat case, the no moved to files, the re-numbered torso etc out ASAP 3.if (...) (26 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Joshua, the master of Lego piece numerology. But please don't harass him with endless questions of "what number is this piece?". Doing so will incur much wrath from him and me. (...) Yep. Expect them shortly. I am just going through and (...) (26 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) That would be Joshua, not Joshuia, and he is an expert because he is careful, thoughtful, thorough, meticulous, devoted, and most of all singularly impassioned. Joshua has forgotten more about LEGO elements than most people will ever learn in (...) (26 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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jonathan's other questions were addressed, but there was one point that was missed: (...) Excuse me, I think you forgot a "please" in this request. Terry puts a lot of time and hard work into the parts updates, and he doesn't need to be badgered (...) (26 years ago, 17-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) It took me a while, but here are my comments on the current batch of voting parts. Since others have looked closely at the patterned baseplates, I ignored those. 2851: This may be getting a bit picky for this part, but where the peg holes meet (...) (26 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Good observations, all. (...) Ah ha! A question I can answer! I asked Tore the same question, and he assured me the part is indeed studless. As shown. -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) The back of the head in the subpart does indeed use a 2-4cyli primitive. You have a good point, but I am concerned about the two slices of cone-like quads which form the curves above and below the cylindrical face area (on the front of the (...) (26 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"John VanZwieten" <john_vanzwieten@msn.com> writes: It's a good thing you spend so much effort to verify the parts! (...) It is probably a bad practice to use two 1-4cyli.dats on each side and rotate them partially to make space for the peg hole, as (...) (26 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yes, at least it makes a difference if the lines are drawn before or after the surrounding/contrasting color quads. LDraw (and LDLite) favor the earlier-drawn object, when two objects occupy the same space. Always draw edge-lines first. Steve (26 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Is that so? I can't remember having read that in the FAQ. I'll make sure to sort the edges first, now that I know of this. Fredrik (26 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Chris Dee <chris_w_dee@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:FBx2v9.BGI@lugnet.com... (...) the (...) What about using cone primitives for these surfaces. What is the inner and outer radius? (...) will (...) of (...) Yes. You want to make sure you (...) (26 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) You can minimize the jagged appearance by using a 1-8cyli.dat around the hole. This leaves the minimum amount of surface around the holes to be jagged in POV-Ray. And if you rotate all the primitives to center your 1-8cyli parts on the (...) (26 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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As Fredrik pointed out, this is probably a FAQ item. Well, it's not specifically FA, but it is useful information, and anyone writing part-files should know about it. (...) (26 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.faq)
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(...) I've thought about writing a function in LDAO to sort a DAT file by line-type: first the 2 (edges) and 5 (conditionals), then the 1 (may be edges, surfaces, or both) then the 3 (triangles) and 4 (quads). Steve (26 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Is there already a button for this? It had odd results when I tried it long ago IIRC. -John Van Steve Bliss <blisses@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:3741a8a1.208175...net.com... (...) (26 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Agreed, and placed into my to-do pile. Cheers, - jsproat (26 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.faq)
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(...) There's a Sort function, but it sorts by position, bottom-to-top, back-to-front. I put it there to help me transition models from the "adding pieces to the file when it's convenient" mode to the "present new pieces in order for other people to (...) (26 years ago, 18-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) You are indeed correct, yes. Thanks a lot. I took the time to "brush up" the surface around the axle holes as well. I believe the current solution is a better one; I no longer use partially overlapping 2-4rings to cover the surface. The part (...) (26 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) That's a really great idea! It's obvious you're pretty experienced with LDraw. I'll do the changes when I get home. Fredrik (26 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Steve Bliss skrev i meddelandet <3741a8a1.20817582@l...et.com>... (...) Is that safe for transparent pieces? I toyed a little with re-sorting some parts to 'outside-in' instead of 'inside-out' to make the drawing faster (minimize overdraw), but then (...) (26 years ago, 19-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Order of drawing doesn't matter, except for coincident objects. For transparent surfaces vs. edges, it matters even less: the edge must 'show through' the surface, or the renderer isn't working right. LDraw and LDLite both display transparent (...) (26 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Steve Bliss skrev i meddelandet <37441788.505228@lugnet.com>... (...) Then the rendering *could* be speeded up by resorting everything 'outside-in'? (Smaller number of pixels to change) -- Anders Isaksson, Sweden BlockCAD: (2 URLs) (26 years ago, 20-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yes, that reordering will render just fine. I don't know how much it will speed up rendering. It would be interesting to find out. Steve (26 years ago, 21-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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