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    Re: The Beeesh —Adrian Drake
   Ya know Eric, this is a really cool bot, but for you it's the same old same old. Different fingers, different eyes, different color, but still the same nonetheless. You've perfected the Sophie-Style bot, why not try something new? Adrian (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
   
        Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
     (...) Thanks for the kind compliments. I will. I just had to get this build out of the way so to speak. Any suggestions? I do have so new things in the wings, but would like to entertain dares or ideas. (...) e (URL) Biomechanical Bricks> (19 years ago, 8-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
   
        Re: The Beeesh —Leonard Hoffman
     (...) I tend to agree with Adrian. This is old hat for you by now. The over-all form is nice, but some parts seem out of scale or out of place to me. The scale issues come from the comparative lengths between arms, legs, and torso. I'd expect the (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
    
         Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
      ya, ok. e (19 years ago, 10-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: The Beeesh —Mark Neumann
      (...) I can't disagree more, I can see the new. There is no doubt that there is a lot in common with your other works. But I see lots of minute improvements. And I see the tech improvements. The tech is tighter, the visible gears aren't showing the (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
     
          Re: The Beeesh —Leonard Hoffman
       (...) I'm talking about the designs and the style, not the gearing technology, which I dont particularly understand (nor really care about, honestly). (...) Judging by Eric's reply to me(1), I really don't think Eric cares one iota about my opinion. (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
      
           Re: The Beeesh —Mark Neumann
        (...) That's a shame, because articulation is at least half of what defines a good mech. It's akin to ignoring SNOT work or greebling that is particuarily well done. (...) Fair enough, (exactly what I do as well) but I'm just voicing the flip side (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
       
            Re: The Beeesh —Leonard Hoffman
        (...) Not so. Greeblings and SNOT work are both directly related to style and design. Articulation is more about the mechanics, and while it can effect design, it isn't the focus of design. The specifics of how the SNOT work is done (ie, using 1x1 (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
       
            Re: The Beeesh —Mark Neumann
         (...) Exactly so, the articulation structure will directly influence the exterior design. Not unlike muscle and skin on bone. It determines size, shape and flow. Not unkike how hidden SNOT work does the same. And more often than not, the gearing (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
       
            Re: The Beeesh —Brian Cooper
        (...) When you start using gears and making joints, the building motivation changes somewhat. I'll build a new mecha only when I have a new idea for a joint. If all the joints are the same as a previous model, then it doesn't seem like progress even (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
       
            Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
        (...) Bingo! (...) B-I-N-G-O !!! e (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
      
           Re: The Beeesh —Christopher Snead
       Joint technology is what sets mecha building apart from other styles. Eric does what he does well. His gearing and joint tech change with each model. If you don't notice the changes in how the legs spread apart, or how he incorporates a new technic (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
     
          Re: The Beeesh —David Eaton
      (...) It's kinda funny, when I saw Eric's post initially, I had sort of the same reaction as Adrian. I saw the picture of another Sophie-Mech, and didn't bother clicking further. I happened to catch Adrian's post as it went by, and since have (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
     
          Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
      (...) Geee thanks, way to blow off someones' efforts. If that is your attitude, I rather you never click on any of my MOC posts. (...) Its too bad for you. You are missing so many things here it is not funny. Sometimes it is the small things in life (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
     
          Re: The Beeesh —David Eaton
      (...) Really? I mean, I'm not trying to say your MOC's are somehow any less valuable, but I personally have seen enough of them such that they don't really interest me anymore. It'd be a shame if you genuinely want me NOT to check out your MOC's. (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
     
          Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
       Like I said, way to blow off people's efforts. You sir are Lego jaded. e (19 years ago, 11-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
      
           Re: The Beeesh —Leonard Hoffman
       Eric: Or you'll just have to wait for my Documentry. It is in progress. Dave: Neat! See, now THAT's different :) It's not every day you get to see a documentry on Lego builders. Is it destined for airing? Eric: Like I said, way to blow off people's (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
      
           Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
       (...) Pardon, I did not reply to your question. At a later time under better and happier circumstances I will be sure to let my fellow AFoL's know about the project. (...) e (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
     
          Now There's an Enthusiast (was Re: The Beeesh) —Adrian Egli
      In lugnet.build.mecha, David Eaton wrote: (major snippage) (...) My gawd man! Are you OK? Now, I'm not in the mecha crowd but I do get some enjoyment checking out works by Eric. What really got me to post here were those last sentences. You make it (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: Now There's an Enthusiast - Hidden Treasure (was Re: The Beeesh) —Eric Sophie
       (...) OMG, now I have to reply (uggg sorry!) Honest, Dave, I really don't want you to feel that way. I promise if you look close, you'll see all kinds of cool little things packed in small places and what not. Often times, I just hope someone will (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.general)
      
           Re: The Beeesh —Larry Pieniazek
       In lugnet.general, Eric Sophie and others wrote: (snip) I'm not seeing this on topic for .general XFUT back to .mecha and those posts with FUT set to .general have been forceFUT back to .mecha as well... I would ask everyone participating in this (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.general)
     
          Re: Now There's an Enthusiast - Hidden Treasure (was Re: The Beeesh) —Scott Lyttle
      (...) Eric, In light of recent personal events with you, I'm not sure you'll take what I'm saying favorably or not. Perhaps if you wrote down in your original post all the improvements you made to the Mech, people would appreciate it, and look at (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)  
     
          Re: Now There's an Enthusiast - Hidden Treasure (was Re: The Beeesh) —Eric Sophie
       Scott, thank you. You do make good points. I appreciate your words. If you place your cursor over the picture links, I embedded construction highlights within the thumb links. That is all I wanted to add. I felt the Mecha exhibited only a handful of (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
     
          Re: Now There's an Enthusiast - Hidden Treasure (was Re: The Beeesh) —J. Spencer Rezkalla
      (...) This is what I have been doing in documenting the complete redesign of my minifig scale space shuttle orbiter. (URL) the casual observer, the new orbiter isn't remarkably different from the old one, since they are basically built to the same (...) (19 years ago, 14-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
     
          Re: Now There's an Enthusiast - Hidden Treasure (was Re: The Beeesh) —Eric Sophie
      Hey, great example thanks! Nice MOC, I had not seen it before. Thanks again for sharring. e (19 years ago, 14-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
     (...) Sir, get a clue. I created my first purpose built Mecha in 1988. I have pursued a study in Mecha building for most of my adult life. I have very personnal reasons for building the way I do. Your comment is both way off base and incredibly (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: The Beeesh —Leonard Hoffman
     (...) Are you calling me out because I dont understand worm gears? Are you calling me out because I never saw the minifigs sitting in your mecha? Because I thought your mecha were more artistic sculptures than the silly minifig scale stuff I do? (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
     (...) Sorry, taking advice from a novice in the field is just not easy. Though you have the right and the ability to use your visual skills to point out some design aspects if they come to mind. I don't want to be snobby in that way, so I'll hear (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
   
        Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
     (...) Adrian, ever since I got wind of your immature back room behavior, I really do not wish to ever speak to you again. Keep your comments to yourself. I don't give a rat's tail what you think or if you like or don't like my MOCs. Build your own (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
   
        Re: The Beeesh —Todd Lehman
     (...) Um, yeah, and I think your bikes are always the same...Nyehh. But seriously... Adrian, my jaw dropped when I read this (above). Sorry to jump in here out of the blue, but your post sounds really mean regardless of whether it's true, which I (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)  
    
         Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
      (...) Thank you Todd. Admittedly, although I have quite a frustration factor with Mr. Drake, I do hope to figure out how to avoid these kinds of problems. Fact is I don't know how. I just sat down on x-mas day started building. None of us should be (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
     
          Re: The Beeesh —Bram Lambrecht
      (...) I know you probably don't value my opinion any more than the other people that have posted in this thread, but it certainly does appear that you think you *are* beyond critique. Dave and Lenny's posts were polite, but honest expressions of (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
     
          Re: The Beeesh —Mladen Pejic
       (...) Well, I've made suggestions to Eric a few times, especially via e-mail, and he was quite happy to hear them and discuss them. Most people are very open to critiques, the problem comes when the critic doesn't now what the hell they are (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
      
           Re: The Beeesh —Bram Lambrecht
       (...) I think Eric is the one bringing everything back to outside conflicts, which can't be helping his image. (...) My point was that he was initially dismissing the comments made in this thread as insults...which is pretty much ignoring criticism. (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
     
          Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
      (...) No way dude, you rock. I value your opinion, you for sure have never held back. It would smarter for me to listen than just put across the wrong message. (...) Look really, I just said I am not above critiques. Don't jerk me around. Some (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
     
          Re: The Beeesh —Bram Lambrecht
      (...) I don't have a whole lot of free time these days (I should really be studying right now), so I tend to focus my attention on MOCs that strike my fancy immediately. Honestly, your MOCs are better appreciated in person than in a bunch of photos. (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
     
          Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
      (...) Thank you. I understand. I hear where you are comming from. I always appreciate your company when we do see eachother. Good luck with your endeavors. sincerly, Eric Sophie (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: The Beeesh —Mladen Pejic
     (...) I agree with Todd. Adrian, nobody forced you to reply to Eric's post. I mean, you're not even a frequent build.mecha poster, so I don't understand why you felt compelled to reply to his particular post. It just came out of the blue. Same for (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
    
         Re: The Beeesh —Leonard Hoffman
     (...) You didn't read that carefully, Mladen. As with all criticism, I mentioned both good points and bad. Examples of good comments: "The over-all form is nice." "I really like the head." Everything else I said was not a deliberate attempt to put (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
    
         Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
     ENOUGH ALREADY! Let it go. This takes away from other people's efforts and creations. STOP. Thank you very much. Lenny did you have to frelling mention SciBrick? C'mon. Also, If you are man enough to let this other carp go, I still want to be (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: The Beeesh —Leonard Hoffman
     (...) How so? I was defending my right to criticize, and I will continue to do so. (...) I am always open to being a friend, but it (URL) appears> you don't really want to be my friend. -Lenny (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
     (...) Just because of all the time it takes to reply to eachother we could be giving feedback to other people's MOCs. Out of all the creations in .mecha you had to come after mine. (...) ok, ok, I hear ya. Let me show you some respect. (...) I know, (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
   
        Re: The Beeesh —Adrian Drake
   (...) Wow. It seems that I started quite the little brouhaha with this post. Let's see, where to begin... First, this is by no means a negative critique of this MOC. I don't get why people think that. Eric, you are an awesome builder of bipedal (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
   
        Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
     (...) Arrrrggg, the only thing I can say is thank you. AND One day I'll put my thoughts out, maybe then it might be easier. I'm no mind reader, but I also need a chance. e (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
   
        Re: The Beeesh —Adrian Drake
     In lugnet.build.mecha, Adrian Drake wrote: Why be (URL) Thomas (...) Err, oops. Copy-paste error. The Thomas Kinkade link is (URL) here>. Darn FTX. Hides the urls ;) Adrian (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
   
        Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
   (...) -snip- (...) -snip- (...) Here is just one example of you assaulting my character behind my back. Please stop and go pick on someone else. I have absolutely nothing to do with you and you still find something nasty to say and kick around with (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
   
        Re: The Beeesh —Adrian Drake
   (...) That was a joke. Not a character attack. I make stupid jokes, and I make them frequently. I'm sorry if you can't recognize that. "Butt buddies"? Nice. Adrian (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
   
        Re: The Beeesh —Dave Schuler
     (...) Does that mean that you share cigarettes with your friends? I'm not a smoker, but I guess I agree that sharing is nice. Dave! (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
    
         Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
      (...) X-FUT! keep build.mecha for Mecha discussion please. e co-curator lugnet.build.mecha (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: The Beeesh —Dave Schuler
     (...) Whoops! Sorry! Hey everyone, please check out my Mecha, made with up to 60% real LEGO bricks: (URL) simple, but I had fun designing them. Thanks! (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
     Dave, wake up! Don't even think about hi-jacking my MOC post. What is wrong with you?!!! e (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: The Beeesh —Dave Schuler
     (...) Jeez, where do I start? My shoelace is broken, my "check engine" light has been on for two weeks, and I just ate too many chili fries. Beyond that, although I have no skill in making humanoidish Mecha, I can appreciate them when they're done (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
     (...) LMAO, ok, that is punishment enough. (...) That was nice of you to say, now trade links with me and go look at my stuff! (URL) Biomechanical Bricks> ==== e (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
   
        Re: The Beeesh —Eric Sophie
     (...) Lay off, x-fut. That does not excuse your slander. Thanks a lot, I never said horrible things about you like that. Can't you see. Just leave me alone. e (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
   
        Re: The Beeesh —David Koudys
   <snip> (...) <snip> Well, that one link has convinced me that LUGNET is by far a better place to be. Thanks for the heads up. I'll take ++Lar and other "moderation" (1) here than what I read there. Dave K 1-yeah I know that LUGNET is not truly (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)  
   
        Re: The Beeesh —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) It's not better. It's not worse. It is just different. CSF has a very different dynamic. if you are thin skinned it may not be the place to hang out. if you haven't got the ability to take criticism and smack in stride, it may not be the place (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
   
        Re: The Beeesh —Kevin Blocksidge
   (...) For you. Not for everyone. "Better" is subjective. No need to slight other forums in this discussion, it's wild enough as it is. (19 years ago, 12-Jan-05, to lugnet.build.mecha)
 

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