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There has been a cool tendency of many LEGO Train Clubs to pattern their logos after fallen flags (logos from defunct railroads) that once operated in the region where those clubs reside. I thought that folk might find it interesting if I posted all (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org) !!
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(...) version of the B&O logo we got from some weird train history book that Tom has... something more like this - it has the extra circle with the text: (URL) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) All righty-- lemme see if I can clean that up and substitute it.... -John (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) if you want to look for an easier one to clean up, we just typed B&O into images.google.com... 'sides, it's no big deal :) Dan (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) lol too late;-) Check it out now: (URL) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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Very cool! John, do you know where I can find out about defunct railroads from the Southern California area? Our club has been searching for a logo and haven't come up with anything we are in love with. We have our first show coming up in December (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) It really depends on what you are looking for. There is the PE logo (which is a definite), and then a bunch of smaller lines-I cannot think of names off hand, but there were some SP narrow gauge lines which might yield interesting logos, and (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) <Sticking my head into trains> You could go to Travel Town! I LOVED that place when I was a kid! I'd think that for a "Southern California" logo, you'd want Western Pacific or Pacific Electric. Matt (Steam-head as a child...don't know why I (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Funny you should mention it..... here's a logo based on the SP: (URL) know of others (none more famous); I can go digging. -John (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) I threw this together: (URL) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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<Snipped from John> (...) Wow! Do either one of you guys mind if we use one of these logos? These are great. Robert (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) I'd want to clean mine up a bit first...I just slapped it together, and the letter forms need to be cleaned up to better match the original. Other than that, see what Adrian and everybody else thinks, and get back to me. I'd really like you (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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In lugnet.announce, John Neal writes: <snip> Kudos, comments and kvetches First, I think this is a great idea, collecting these in one place. John is too modest because a lot of this groundswell of adopting fallen flags is due to his own tireless (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) worked. I'll post them into an ideas folder on my Brickshelf page. -John (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) lol But of course! That's why we're doing them:-) I created a folder of fallen flags that I thought might interest your club: (URL) think any one of these logos could be adapted and look really cool. If you see one that strikes your fancy, LMK (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) I'll talk to JT about it. (...) Agreed. I created a new one and took out the proposed SCLTC one. (...) Okay. I'll post it and stick the FRISCO one in the proposed folder. -John (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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Actually the logo used on the shirt (and black & white print) is much more true to the SR logo by having both circles. The one John has displayed we've used for some color print items and it uses a color difference instead of an actual inter circle. (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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Matt, I've submitted the proposed logos to the other club members and I hope to hear back by tonight or tomorrow. Many thanks you and John Neal for your help! Robert (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) S'not a problem...you're welcome! Did you see the variation logos I posted to Brickshelf later last night? One has the WP wings and the other is the beginning of a Zephyr design. Matt (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Those I LIKE A LOT! The ones John posted (thanks for the help) are really cool because they have that traditional look(?) and don't require lots of color (black is very cheap for my printer), and will be easy to print up iron-ons for shirts. (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Heh... Why? If you're being true to the industry standard, having logo inconsistencies is all part of the fun. :) <GD&R> James (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Alps made their own decal paper...just check eBay...supplies are easily had there. HTH, Matt (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) lol, well, I think that I actually *contributed* to the differing versions of the NGLTC logo-- the one I posted was a flat version I created of the raised logo from the web site.... JT, I could easily adapt the SR logos dimensions to yours if (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Aha! You used the past tense "made", Matt-- I had heard a rumor that ALPS went out of business, but it seems that they still have a web site. Know anything I don't? -John (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) D'oh! The Santa Fe...why didn't I think of that? You can't turn around in So. Cal. without seeing that logo...but are they defunct? John, are your files vector art (I'm guessing yes)? If so, could I get you to e-mail me the WP logo with wings? (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Thank you John...that means a lot coming from *you*! 8?) (...) I saw that...see my other message for a request. Matt (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Egad Egli-- iron-ons?? When it comes time to get shirts, LMK. I know a screenprinter who'll cut you a deal;-) I like the SP logo for a club such as yours because it shows the tracks disappearing off into the sunset, signifying the westernmost (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Alps is still around...they make OEM printer stuff for cash registers and other things...they just stopped making the retail printer series (sadly). Luckly, supplies are almost unlimited...many eBay Alps sellers also have websites for (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Well, the logos are-- they are now a part of the Burlington Northern Santa Fe (BNSF) (...) Yes. I use AI on a Mac. Will do. -John (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Careful - those might be fightin' words to Mr. Neal... <grin> (For those who don't know, John has a shirt printing business.) (...) Are you looking for 'sticker' sheets, or 'decal' sheets? I have used decal sheets from Walthers ((URL) worked (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Yeah, you better D&R, buddy. :) I'm sure NALUG would be perfectly willing to adopt an LTC, if only we hadn't just invested in these shirts....<GRIN> Fun aside, it's pretty long odds against NALUG turning into (or adopting) an LTC; We just (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) I guess we are in the same position as NALUG, we just arn't train focused enough and probably won't be creating a train only sub group any time soon. I did proactively register www.neltc.org just in case but even if we did use it my guess is (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Boo;-) it's pretty long odds against NALUG turning into (or adopting) an (...) No need to do anything drastic; but wouldn't it be fun (when you do do your next train show) if you had a club logo to use as a collective wink to the crowd? (I'm (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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Eric, are y'all willing to sell shirts to non-members of NELUG? Or maybe take a NGLTC shirt in trade? jt In lugnet.trains.org, Eric Kingsley writes: <snip> (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) No problem although our first order was just for members and we didn't order extras. I have been thinking of placing another order soon and leting others in on it. Problem is I don't know where a post like that should go. Is trains.org OK or (...) (23 years ago, 6-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) snip (...) Yea, I should have been a little clearer (no pun intended). It's the decal sheets that I'm looking for. BTW, the iron-on sheets Alps made are very good, my mom loves them. One thing else, I've been doing with these guys (URL) (...) (23 years ago, 7-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Hey we got a mention from the mighty American LUGS and LTC's! Woo! Dean (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Is there such a thing that will let me print WHITE with my Laser printer? (On clear background) Some sort of transfer type thing or wet apply or ??? Thanks Dean (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) There's rumors of the VLC spawning a Sub LTC club... VLTC or something like that. Anyone know any defunct railroads for Canada and more to the point BC? Dean (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Esquimault and Nanaimo??? Are they defunct? White Pass and Yukon? They aren't defunct... and aren't even in the same province, but at least they're western and memorable. It helps if the herald is interesting looking. (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) I finally found white water-slide decal paper! Check this out Dean: (URL) it'll work with lazer, color lazer, copier, color copier! I'm so excited! Maybe I don't need that Alps 5000 after all (though I still want to print gold and silver) Matt (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Oops...wanted to add what I found upon a re-read of the page...they also have water-slide decal paper for ...get this...INK JETS! It comes with a waterproofing spray...oh, now that is TOO COOL! A very giddy Matt (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Sure. Past God's Endurance is one, and a whole scad of logging roads existed (Brooks Scalon(?) and so on...) (PGE-Pacific Great Eastern, former name of BC Rail). You could always use one of the Mackenzie railway names too... My copy of "CN (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) It's cool, but I guess what I wanted was something can can allow white to be used. I know the Alps can do white etc. but a transfer system would sure be nice. Ahh well. I new I was dreaming... Dean (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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Dean Husby wrote in message <3BEB4456.CAC0C4CC@a....bc.ca>... (...) Here are 2 logos for the Pacific Great Eastern (Prince George Eventually..) now BC Rail (URL) Lego Kits & Custom models: (URL) Lego parts store: (URL) Lego auctions: (URL) Guild of (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) The new one's pretty ugly. Looks like it was designed by a committee of government drones or something. But the old one... (URL) one would look sharp in *many* colors, I think. (printed in white on a dark background as a transparent sticker, (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Just as a note... a good real life herald had this feature. These were stenciled on to the sides of things.. boxcar red/brown boxcars, black coal cars (usually in white)... grey or tan or yellow MOW cars (usually in black), and so forth. So (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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Aah, the yin/yang symbol was the NP surely. Though the GN did use red and black as well in the encircled goat, right? (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Dean- Someone elsewhere mentioned Great Northern-- I checked an RR map and they actually ran through Vancouver... I'll post an example or 2 of their heralds -John (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) D'Oh! Sorry, meant *Northern Pacific* :-p -John (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) I think you are right. I am confusing the red/black circles with the yin/yang. Fitting then, (if true) that the goat guys didn't run to Vancouver and the newage-yin/yang guys did, ne? (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Hey, ya Canuck, check dis out, eh: (URL) (hoser) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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John Neal wrote in message ... (...) That's nice, John... but I like the older PGE logo better as a base (URL) Annual SYSTEM Creativity Contest: (URL) Lego Kits & Custom models: (URL) Lego parts store: (URL) Guild of Bricksmiths: (URL) Lego Web (...) (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Dan (23 years ago, 9-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Cool but I was thinking more of a polar bear myself. The colour scheme needs a tad bit of work too. Green and yellow? Eww... Good first try though! Dean (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Too bad there is no LEGO moose or reindeer huh? (...) <pout> It's orange...just like the source art...it's the green I need to change, really </pout> (...) Umm...thanks...? 8?) Seriously, I'll work on it if it's a way you all want to go. LMK. (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) There: (URL) touched up the colors, and fixed a couple of missing lines on the horse (no polar bear yet though 8?P). Matt (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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Matthew Gerber wrote in message ... (...) That looks very cool, Matt! I think I wouldn't bother with the periods between V.L.T.C though, just put VLTC. Or, have the word "Club" in that space and not use VLTC in there at all. After all, the original (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Hokeydokey...here ya' go (with changes): (URL) (still gotta' draw out a polar bear) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) The original logo had a reindeer. How about making a reindeer out of bricks? (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Well, as it is now, the club doesn't exist... But in the new year it might... We'll have to see what happens. I'll keep all your guy's efforts in mind when it comes time to pick a logo/name. Dean (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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Larry Pieniazek wrote in message ... (...) bricks? <nit-pick> That would be a caribou :-) </nit-pick> I do have some brick-built reindeer from last year's Xmas stuff, I should dig them out (but not till Mon, I am up to here with show preps today (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) I had thought of that too...a brick built caribou...and it would look neat large scale, say on a banner, but it will become moot when applied to engines or stock (teeny-weeny scale). (...) I'll try to find a good image to draw from too (...) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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(...) Whatever. :-) I am not going to play your silly reindeer games. :-) (23 years ago, 10-Nov-01, to lugnet.trains.org)
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