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    Re: Lavender Brick Society —Alfred Speredelozzi
   (...) Wow, lots of controversy here, Teddy! I think this thread has really brought out the homophobic in many AFOLs. I mean, what are people talking about when they say they just want this site to be safe for kids? Aren't we a bunch of AFOLs? (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
   
        Re: Lavender Brick Society —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) I've only followed this thread loosely, but I don't recall a single homophobic response. I don't have a single problem with gays, but I don't see the need for a gay Lego sub-division any more than any other sub-division you wish to define (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
    
         Re: Lavender Brick Society —Steve DeCraemer
      (...) Nicely put Bruce. Let me put it this way. I go to Brickfest and I see 280 lego enthusist. Who's gay and who's not. Hey is that chick straight or a lesbian? Hey, that guy over there kinda looks gay but I'm sure the hell not going to go over and (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
     
          Re: Lavender Brick Society —Dave Schuler
       (...) Hey, who let an atheist into OT.Debate?!? Dave! (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Lavender Brick Society —David Koudys
       (...) Like Heston in POTA-- "YOU MANIACS. YOU BLEW IT UP. MEGABLOCK YOU. MEGABLOCK YOU ALL TO MEGABLOCK. That's what you get when you let an athiest in here... ;) Dave K (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Lavender Brick Society —Tim Courtney
       (...) Megablock you, you Megablocking Megablock. -Tim (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Lavender Brick Society —Frank Filz
         "Tim Courtney" <lego@SPAMCAKE.timcourtney.net> wrote in message news:I45JqD.1DI1@lugnet.com... (...) Um, should that be Megablock you, you Megablocking Megablockhead? (ooh, that rolls off the toungue real nice...:-) Frank (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: Lavender Brick Society —David Eaton
         (...) If you're gonna swear, at least spell it right, you Megabloking Megablokholes. Hmm. "MegaBlokhole"... that really does sound evil. And I can't believe the audacity that some websites have. Swearing on a site intended for children. Sheesh: (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
       
            Re: Lavender Brick Society —John Neal
        (...) Actually, I think the actual quotation is: Megablok off, you Megabloking Megablok. JOHN (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
      
           Re: Lavender Brick Society —Dave Schuler
        (...) All you Bionicling Galidors can go Jackstone yourselves. Dave! (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: Lavender Brick Society —Lee Meyer
        (...) Okay Dave, I'm going to have to ask you to refrain from this kind of language. There is no acceptable situation to tell someone to go Jackstone themself. In fact, those could be regarded as fighting words, in which case someone may go Harry (...) (20 years ago, 17-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
      
           Re: Lavender Brick Society —Bruce Schlickbernd
       (...) Learn to curse correctly! Mega Bloks. No "c", two words. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Lavender Brick Society —Bruce Schlickbernd
       (...) Lots of people have said they are gay here on lugnet - doesn't seem to be a big deal. Of course, I suppose I'm used to my old home town of Long Beach, California, which had a greater density of gays than San Francisco (or did - don't keep up (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
     
          Re: Lavender Brick Society —James Trobaugh
      (...) I was at Brickfest and none of those questions ever went through my mind. Maybe you and I go to Brickfest for different reasons. jt (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
    
         Re: Lavender Brick Society —Duane Hess
     (...) Thanks Bruce, I visit LUGNet to see what the latest and greatest is in the Lego Block Building World. I've seen MOCs of religious, sexual and Holocaust themes. Do I come here to discuss religion, sex or genocide? No. I come here for the MOCs - (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
   
        Re: Lavender Brick Society —Lee Meyer
   (...) I just love this abuse of the term "homophobic" to anyone who disagrees with whatever homosexuals propose to do (and Alfred, this does not mean I am saying you a homosexual because I don't know and don't care). No other group exists - (...) (20 years ago, 17-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
   
        Re: Lavender Brick Society —David Laswell
   (...) Of course not. If you disagree with women, you get labelled mysoginistic or male-chauvanistic, not homophobic. That wouldn't make any sense at all. Anyways, there is evidence that suggests that those who are rabidly homophobic are actually (...) (20 years ago, 17-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
   
        Re: Lavender Brick Society —Johannes Koehler
     Hello! (...) So why whould one (intentionally or not) _look_ at them? (...) There's no reason that I actually _think_ "this person is black" It's just how a person is, it's obvious, it's not a matter of must-think-about. I don't look at a random (...) (20 years ago, 17-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Lavender Brick Society —Lee Meyer
     (...) Johannes, I think you stated yourself very well on these points. The issue that underlies this is that these people want you to know they are gay - they don't want you to assume the are not because they are offended at being assumed to be gay (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Lavender Brick Society —Johannes Koehler
     Hello! Before I started posting to this thread I made the following decisions: 1. I would not say anything revealing my own sexual preferences, whatever they might be. 2. I would not say anything like "personally I'm not [this] but hey! if people (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
    
         Re: Lavender Brick Society —Kevin Wilson
      (...) Not picking on you particularly Jojo, since this has been said several times by several people in different ways in this thread. There are a couple of points here. Firstly, heterosexuals frequently mention their sexual orientation. How? By (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Lavender Brick Society —Lee Meyer
      (...) Verbal gymnastics from Kevin. Sexual orientation may not tell you the specific acts a particular couple performs in bed, but you'd have to be an idiot not to know THE RANGE OF POSSIBLE ACTS two men or two women might do in bed together (same (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Lavender Brick Society —Christopher L. Weeks
       (...) Whether you're wrong or right, what does it matter? Are you actually offended by the sexual acts that these two men might perform? Is that actually even what this is about or is this a dead end? If it really is the point, do those same acts (...) (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Lavender Brick Society —Bruce Hietbrink
       (...) But isn't there a huge distinction here? Say, for instance, I said the following in the .storage group: "I was digging through my big bin of bricks last night, but the noise was really annoying my SO, because she was trying to sleep. I really (...) (20 years ago, 21-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
     
          Re: Lavender Brick Society —Kevin Wilson
      Interesting that you don't bother to address either of the two major points in my post, Lee (that heterosexuals frequently broadcast their sexual orientation by referring to the gender of their partners, and that sexual orientation is about (...) (20 years ago, 22-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Lavender Brick Society —Kevin Wilson
       (...) If a moderator thinks that that message *was* too graphic, you hereby have my request to cancel it. Kevin (20 years ago, 22-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Lavender Brick Society —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) This admin (not moderator, we don't have moderators at LUGNET) appreciates your concern and thanks you for your flexibility and willingness to work within the system. However (1) the decision to request a cancel rests with *you*, not the (...) (20 years ago, 22-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Lavender Brick Society —Christopher L. Weeks
      (...) How could he??? You homos are wicked and that's good enough. Trying to rationalize it will only get him into trouble. See John Neal's long history of debate for countless examples of the style. (...) Yeah, this is something that bothers me (...) (20 years ago, 23-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Lavender Brick Society —Dave Schuler
      (...) Wait a minute--Kevin's gay?!? Oh no! I bought skeletons from him a few years ago--what does that make me? Dave! (20 years ago, 23-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Lavender Brick Society —Bruce Schlickbernd
      (...) Idunno about you, but clearly the skeletons in your closet have come out. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 23-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Lavender Brick Society —Kevin Wilson
      (...) ROFL! (20 years ago, 23-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Lavender Brick Society —David Laswell
     (...) The tone of your post fairly well indicates that you're hetero, you're not okay with LGBT lifestyles, and you don't really think it should be completely left to Todd to decide. I'd say you failed on the right parts and succeeded on the wrong (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Lavender Brick Society —Jeff Pelletier
      (...) I couldn't agree more with what David said. As a gay person, I ask no more and no less than to speak equally with someone. If a straight person I talk to mentions "I went to the Lego store with my wife, blah blah blah" then I do in fact desire (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Lavender Brick Society —Joakim Olsson
        "Jeff Pelletier" <jeff@studio7733.com> wrote in message news:I496JG.Io6@lugnet.com... snipped some old stuff. (...) more and (...) to (...) in (...) No (...) is (...) think (...) would (...) speak (...) ignorant to (...) civil (...) can't (...) (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Lavender Brick Society —Jeff Pelletier
       (...) Joakim, No problem asking. Several examples of LGBT related MOCs were already brought up, but to recap: there was a castle inhabited by lesbians, a gay bar, a gay "ghetto" (most big cities have one - NYC's Chelsea, Seattle's Capitol Hill, (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Lavender Brick Society —Joakim Olsson
        "Jeff Pelletier" <jeff@studio7733.com> wrote in message news:I49Bsw.1BDI@lugnet.com... (...) it: (...) MOCS (...) it (...) does (...) brought (...) gay (...) Hill, (...) is a (...) the (...) the (...) clue (...) is the (...) large (...) As a (...) (...) (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Lavender Brick Society —Jeff Pelletier
       (...) You are completely right about MOCs being able to be posted in other groups. I intend, where appropriate, to cross-post any MOCs that I would post. Some people may not, its their choice I guess. (...) The short answer (and thats difficult) (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Lavender Brick Society —Johannes Koehler
       Hello! (...) This thread is the reason why a LGBT subgroup is needed now. Because NOW nobody who was involved in this thread has an unbiassed view upon this matter anymore. ;) Bye Jojo (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Lavender Brick Society —Lee Meyer
      In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jeff Pelletier wrote: [SNIP] (...) Jeff, you may be referring to some of my statements, and I will simply flat out tell you it's based on my personal experiences with gay people and also reading the published/blog (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Lavender Brick Society —Johannes Koehler
      Hello! (...) Since I'm an untransgendered hetero I don't need to be okay with such lifestyles. (...) That's only an assumption. (...) *sigh* To fail constantly is my destiny. Bye Jojo (20 years ago, 18-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Lavender Brick Society —Lee Meyer
     In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Laswell wrote: [SNIP] (...) (sarcasm on) Ummmmm, Dave, yeah, we have conversations about this all the time. You must have overheard us. (sarcasm off) We're not the ones obsessed with defining ourselves primarily by (...) (20 years ago, 19-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Lavender Brick Society —Christopher L. Weeks
     (...) <giggle> Seriously? I'm pretty sure you've read this thread...right? So, how can you say that you're not obsessed in exactly the way you're claiming not to be? _You're_ the the one raising the stink...not the LGB folks. Chris (20 years ago, 20-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Lavender Brick Society —Lee Meyer
   (...) Really, give me a break. People in favor of this idea have tossed around the term "homophobic" not in the clinical sense, but at anyone who hasn't embraced this idea as being wonderful, and you know it. I was pointing out the fact that those (...) (20 years ago, 17-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
 

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