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In lugnet.admin.suggestions, Steve DeCraemer wrote:
> In lugnet.admin.suggestions, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
> > In lugnet.admin.suggestions, Alfred Speredelozzi wrote:
> > > In lugnet.admin.suggestions, Edward Welsh wrote:
> > > > I've been kicking an idea around for a while, and I wanted to put it out to the
> > > > community: I'd like to start an organization for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and
> > > > transgendered (LGBT) AFOLs. A lavender brick society, if you like. >
> > > > -Teddy
> > >
> > > Wow, lots of controversy here, Teddy! I think this thread has really brought
> > > out the homophobic in many AFOLs.
> >
> > I've only followed this thread loosely, but I don't recall a single homophobic
> > response. I don't have a single problem with gays, but I don't see the need for
> > a gay Lego sub-division any more than any other sub-division you wish to define
> > based on non-Lego related activities, and that's pretty much the response that
> > others have made. Everything else gets thrown into off-topic, where there have
> > been discussion about gays before, and will no doubt happen again. If it is
> > on-topic (i,e, about Lego) then if you want to build a ranch-house with two
> > women and only one bedroom in the layout, that would still go into Town, and if
> > you wanted to do the same with two men in a 11th century keep, that would go in
> > Castle.
> >
> > -->Bruce<--
>
>
> Nicely put Bruce.
> Let me put it this way. I go to Brickfest and I see 280 lego enthusist.
> Who's gay and who's not. Hey is that chick straight or a lesbian? Hey, that
> guy over there kinda looks gay but I'm sure the hell not going to go over and
> ask him. Do you have any idea the kind of "guts" (not first choice of words) it
> takes Teddy to even bring this up. Think about it. and if someone wants to
> start a black group or a religious or a short people group let them. What harm
> will it do you.
Lots of people have said they are gay here on lugnet - doesn't seem to be a big
deal. Of course, I suppose I'm used to my old home town of Long Beach,
California, which had a greater density of gays than San Francisco (or did -
don't keep up on that kinda thing). Gay? Yawn, no big deal. Maybe somewhere
else it isn't such an easy topic.
As to a black or religious group, I have the exact same comments: deal with it
in off-topic if it has nothing to do with Lego, and if it is on-topic, then any
building project is most likely covered under one of the existing forums.
Starting a new discussion group: great, fine, more power to you. I just don't
see the point of it on Lugnet.
> Do you think that just because we might occasionally chat on
> the lavender post that we'll never use any of the other chat sites again. It's
> not like we're leaving for good. We just want someplace to call home. • Teddy,
> Major Kudo's man. I hope they give it to you. And I hope the first person who
> wants a black posting gets theirs too. Years ago I pulled up Ed Boxer's web
> site (do you remember the castle?) and if you went into his other personal
> photo's for other hobbies and pictures of family and friends you found out he
> had a "significant other". I met Ed completely by chance and we've been good
> friends since. It would be so much easier if I could just go into a chat group
> and know we're all playing on the same side of the fence. I certainly can't ask
> it in general discussion, and sorry, I don't have the time to pull up everyones
> website.
>
> Signed, a gay lego atheist who builds cathedrals
I don't see the point of a Black forum on Lugnet, either. What you really need
to do is say exactly why a lego.gay,etc forum is needed. So far, it just seems
to be "I want to hook up with other gays" (I don't mean "hook-up" in any
perjorative fashion). I haven't seen any Lego-specific reason for it.
As to finding out about others being gay, just take notes on this thread. :-)
If everyone wants to show up at a Lego convention with a pink or lavender brick,
that's fine, too. Doesn't seem to need a forum of its own to arrange that
(.events).
-->Bruce<--
-->Bruce<--
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