| |
...We were going to do some Brikwars at the East Coast Brikfest (june 9-11, join
lugnet.org.us.wamalug for info), Jeff proposed a 'round the clock/continuous game' kind of
thing. So I'm posting my initial ideas for how to structure this thing to get
feedback/ideas from youse guys.
My idea: Kinda like a 'king of the hill' scenario.
...I was thinking of a big area with some 'target' spots on it. Players start from any
edge (or maybe some defined 'landing zones') and get points at the end of their turn for
having a minifig alive and kicking uncontested in a target.
...New players can start at any time by just grabbing a squad or two and joining a table
edge. If any player gets wiped out, they can just grab a new squad and join in again
(points keep adding up).
...And to reward good play, perhaps divide their points by how many CPs total they brought
in. So players who bring in huge forces wont necessarily do better than players who bring
in a couple small teams.
possible other things:
...give points for each fig killed (maybe 100 points for a target, 10 pts for a fig?) to
encourage bloodshed :-)
...bonus points for spectacular deaths (small missile takes out 15 figs), best unit,
amazing saves (1 fig survives full onslaught of a heavy mecha), most stoopid thing done,
etc
...some fixed 'neutral' weapons or bunkers that can be operated by whoever happens to get
them (optionally, neutral weapons are indestructible).
hmmmm... all I can think of at the moment
...you can go back to ignoring me now...
wubwub
stephen f roberts
wamalug guy (http://wamalug.org)
wildlink.com
lugnet #160
|
|
| |
In lugnet.fun.gaming, Stephen F. Roberts writes:
> ...We were going to do some Brikwars at the East Coast Brikfest (june 9-11,
> join lugnet.org.us.wamalug for info), Jeff proposed a 'round the
> clock/continuous game' kind of thing. So I'm posting my initial ideas for how
> to structure this thing to get feedback/ideas from youse guys.
>
>
> My idea: Kinda like a 'king of the hill' scenario.
>
> ...I was thinking of a big area with some 'target' spots on it. Players start
> from any edge (or maybe some defined 'landing zones') and get points at the
> end of their turn for having a minifig alive and kicking uncontested in a
> target.
I was thinking of a "Last man standing" kinda thing. Basically, just try to
take out all vehicles/troops, and whoever has the most points at the end wins.
Points would be equal to the CPs of the enemy units destroyed. I've been
thinking about allowing teams/alliances, too, so the person who brings two
hundred troops won't have an overwhelming advantage.
> ...New players can start at any time by just grabbing a squad or two and
> joining a table edge. If any player gets wiped out, they can just grab a new
> squad and join in again (points keep adding up).
What if someone fields their entire force at the beginning? Should there be a
wait time before they can field the same units again, or can they not field
them again at all?
> ...And to reward good play, perhaps divide their points by how many CPs total
> they brought in. So players who bring in huge forces wont necessarily do
> better than players who bring in a couple small teams.
This would definitely make the scoring fairer. A must if there is no limit to
the amount someone is able to field.
> possible other things:
> ...give points for each fig killed (maybe 100 points for a target, 10 pts for
> a fig?) to encourage bloodshed :-)
Basing this on the troop's CP would be better, as a trooper with a deathgun is
more of a challenge than one with a pistol.
> ...bonus points for spectacular deaths (small missile takes out 15 figs), best
> unit, amazing saves (1 fig survives full onslaught of a heavy mecha), most
> stoopid thing done, etc
This has possibilities... :)
> ...some fixed 'neutral' weapons or bunkers that can be operated by whoever
> happens to get them (optionally, neutral weapons are indestructible).
Indestructible might not be a good thing... A smart player could have some
troops hole up in a bunker and make them nigh invincible. Weapon choice would
play a big part here. On the other hand, major bonus points could be
awarded...
Jeff
|
|
| |
"Jeff Stembel" <aulddragon@wamalug.org> wrote:
> In lugnet.fun.gaming, Stephen F. Roberts writes:
> > ...We were going to do some Brikwars at the East Coast Brikfest (june 9-11,
> > join lugnet.org.us.wamalug for info), Jeff proposed a 'round the
> > clock/continuous game' kind of thing. So I'm posting my initial ideas for how
> > to structure this thing to get feedback/ideas from youse guys.
> >
> >
> > My idea: Kinda like a 'king of the hill' scenario.
> >
> > ...I was thinking of a big area with some 'target' spots on it. Players start
> > from any edge (or maybe some defined 'landing zones') and get points at the
> > end of their turn for having a minifig alive and kicking uncontested in a
> > target.
>
> I was thinking of a "Last man standing" kinda thing. Basically, just try to
> take out all vehicles/troops, and whoever has the most points at the end wins.
> Points would be equal to the CPs of the enemy units destroyed. I've been
> thinking about allowing teams/alliances, too, so the person who brings two
> hundred troops won't have an overwhelming advantage.
...They'd have an overwhelming advantage, but specially if we use the divide by points
fielded idea, they still wouldn't necessarily come out best. And if we have several target
areas spread out by >30", if the player with 200 pts wanted to take more than 1, theyd
have to spread out, making them an easier target if another player concentrated.
...This whole thing kinda hinges on there being enuf players who want to play. And there
should be fewer targets than players (musical chairs :-). This would force someone to be
the 'odd man out' and have to fight to get in. Also, make less defendable target areas
worth more. Like a target that's in a field surrounded by light cover is worth a lot more
than a target that has some cover.
> > ...New players can start at any time by just grabbing a squad or two and
> > joining a table edge. If any player gets wiped out, they can just grab a new
> > squad and join in again (points keep adding up).
>
> What if someone fields their entire force at the beginning? Should there be a
> wait time before they can field the same units again, or can they not field
> them again at all?
...Hmmm... ok, they cant field anything more until they have lost everything else on the
board. Then maybe make them wait a round and they can re-field the force, but the new
fielding adds to their total CP. This would let players come with a small force and just
keep reusing it over and over (multiplying their total CP every time).
> > ...And to reward good play, perhaps divide their points by how many CPs total
> > they brought in. So players who bring in huge forces wont necessarily do
> > better than players who bring in a couple small teams.
>
> This would definitely make the scoring fairer. A must if there is no limit to
> the amount someone is able to field.
...I guess, depending on how big the field is and how many players there are, we might
need to limit how much is fielded at one time by a player... but this may be something we
have to find out as we play.. :-/
> > possible other things:
> > ...give points for each fig killed (maybe 100 points for a target, 10 pts for
> > a fig?) to encourage bloodshed :-)
>
> Basing this on the troop's CP would be better, as a trooper with a deathgun is
> more of a challenge than one with a pistol.
...Yea, but if everyone is worth the same, you'll go after all the cannon fodder, leading
to more bloodshed! :-) I was thinking 10 pts each just to make the math easier, at 10pts
each, just put a tick mark on a sheet vice having to write down all the kill cps.
> > ...bonus points for spectacular deaths (small missile takes out 15 figs), best
> > unit, amazing saves (1 fig survives full onslaught of a heavy mecha), most
> > stoopid thing done, etc
>
> This has possibilities... :)
>
> > ...some fixed 'neutral' weapons or bunkers that can be operated by whoever
> > happens to get them (optionally, neutral weapons are indestructible).
>
> Indestructible might not be a good thing... A smart player could have some
> troops hole up in a bunker and make them nigh invincible. Weapon choice would
> play a big part here. On the other hand, major bonus points could be
> awarded...
...But if the bunkers and weapons arent part of the target zones, they could hole up there
all day and still not win (tho get lots of points for killing ppl! :-)
...you can go back to ignoring me now...
wubwub
stephen f roberts
wamalug guy (http://wamalug.org)
wildlink.com
lugnet #160
|
|
| |
In lugnet.fun.gaming, Stephen F. Roberts writes:
> > > ...We were going to do some Brikwars at the East Coast Brikfest (june
> > > 9-11, join lugnet.org.us.wamalug for info), Jeff proposed a 'round the
> > > clock/continuous game' kind of thing. So I'm posting my initial ideas
> > > for how to structure this thing to get feedback/ideas from youse guys.
You've got to watch out, a game like this is going to get bogged down by
inexperienced players fielding bigger armies than they can handle. What you
might want to do is set a 20-30 minute time limit on each player's turn - this
will serve to limit the effective size of individual armies and to keep the
game moving at faster than a snail's pace.
Another thing that will help is if you have two non-player administrative
types.
The most experienced person handy should be the game master, who would make
rapid judgment calls whenever something was ambiguous (such as deciding
whether a proposed Stupendous Feat is legal, deciding whether a warhorse would
really behave in a certain way, etc.), make up new rules when necessary, help
new players who aren't familiar with the rules to play without being at too
severe a disadvantage, and keep everything moving smoothly. He must also
decide when a player's army is inappropriately large (whether because there
aren't enough opposing forces on the field, the battlefield is not big enough,
or due to the player's perceived inexperience). Pronouncements of the GM are
instant and binding, and he is allowed to be completely wrong as often as he
wants as long as it keeps the game moving and fun for everybody.
The second admin should be a lowly production assistant, whose main job is to
act as a full-time scorekeeper and timekeeper(and thereby keep the GM and
players free for more important things). The PA would also be in charge of
looking up rules in the rulebook, taking secretarial notes of game highlights
so you don't forget them later in case you want to do a write-up or web page,
and doing any other menial tasks to take care of the needs of the GM and
players (such as getting food and drinks).
If you're going to be doing this round-the-clock for a couple days, you're
going to need to have a couple of GMs and PAs in rotation. You might also
need a way to handle players leaving the game when they still have armies on
the field, and how new players will enter the field mid-battle.
> ...They'd have an overwhelming advantage, but specially if we use the
> divide by points fielded idea, they still wouldn't necessarily come out
> best. And if we have several target areas spread out by 30", if the
> player with 200 pts wanted to take more than 1, theyd have to spread
> out, making them an easier target if another player concentrated.
Since you are having players coming in and out of the game, a player who put
in a 200-point army when there were only two 100-point opponents would have a
much bigger advantage than if he entered the game when there were three 300-
point opponents. So maybe you have to keep track of the ratio of individual
CP to battlefield CP as well. Seems like it'd be a lot of work though.
- Mike Rayhawk.
--------------------------------------------------
Check out the Official BrikWars Home Page at
http://www.teleport.com/~rayhawks/brikwars.htm
--------------------------------------------------
|
|
| |
I have to agree with Mike here ... when I first read the initial posting, I shuddered at the
prospect of a huge game. Our second NELUG game (the one that we finished) took about 4 hours
to play to conclusion (11:30 to 5:00, with about an hour for lunch - setup and stats and
everything was done before that), with each of the five people fielding 300 points worth of
troops and equipment. The entire game took about 4 turns for each side. We'd all played the
game at least once before, and most of the scoring of troops and equipment had been done ahead
of time. I'm afraid a *really* large scale battle could really bog down - though Mike's
suggestions could certainly help alleviate that problem and streamline the process.
Another possible way to run the game would be to have a number of smaller battles throughout
the weekend. I'm typing as I'm thinking this through, but I like the idea of a
campaign/tournament style, in which only units that survive one battle can make an appearance
in the next one (even losers in a battle can have survivors if the games have specific
objectives versus "destroy all enemy troops" - plus, cowardice and fleeing appropriately can
do wonders for longevity ;) At the end of the campaign, there will be some very special
troops who have weathered all storms and now stand proud. Of course, this doesn't work for
someone who loses all of their troops, or who wants to field new creations halfway through the
event.
I guess I don't know the best way to do it. I'd just be careful about trying to undertake a
huge game, lest it move too slowly to keep people interested.
My thoughts and opinions are supplied free of charge, and, as such, have little to no market
value. Feel free to discard at will ;)
shaun
Stephen F Roberts wrote:
> "Jeff Stembel" <aulddragon@wamalug.org> wrote:
>
> > In lugnet.fun.gaming, Stephen F. Roberts writes:
> > > ...We were going to do some Brikwars at the East Coast Brikfest (june 9-11,
> > > join lugnet.org.us.wamalug for info), Jeff proposed a 'round the
> > > clock/continuous game' kind of thing. So I'm posting my initial ideas for how
> > > to structure this thing to get feedback/ideas from youse guys.
> > >
> > >
> > > My idea: Kinda like a 'king of the hill' scenario.
> > >
> > > ...I was thinking of a big area with some 'target' spots on it. Players start
> > > from any edge (or maybe some defined 'landing zones') and get points at the
> > > end of their turn for having a minifig alive and kicking uncontested in a
> > > target.
> >
> > I was thinking of a "Last man standing" kinda thing. Basically, just try to
> > take out all vehicles/troops, and whoever has the most points at the end wins.
> > Points would be equal to the CPs of the enemy units destroyed. I've been
> > thinking about allowing teams/alliances, too, so the person who brings two
> > hundred troops won't have an overwhelming advantage.
>
> ...They'd have an overwhelming advantage, but specially if we use the divide by points
> fielded idea, they still wouldn't necessarily come out best. And if we have several target
> areas spread out by >30", if the player with 200 pts wanted to take more than 1, theyd
> have to spread out, making them an easier target if another player concentrated.
>
> ...This whole thing kinda hinges on there being enuf players who want to play. And there
> should be fewer targets than players (musical chairs :-). This would force someone to be
> the 'odd man out' and have to fight to get in. Also, make less defendable target areas
> worth more. Like a target that's in a field surrounded by light cover is worth a lot more
> than a target that has some cover.
>
> > > ...New players can start at any time by just grabbing a squad or two and
> > > joining a table edge. If any player gets wiped out, they can just grab a new
> > > squad and join in again (points keep adding up).
> >
> > What if someone fields their entire force at the beginning? Should there be a
> > wait time before they can field the same units again, or can they not field
> > them again at all?
>
> ...Hmmm... ok, they cant field anything more until they have lost everything else on the
> board. Then maybe make them wait a round and they can re-field the force, but the new
> fielding adds to their total CP. This would let players come with a small force and just
> keep reusing it over and over (multiplying their total CP every time).
>
> > > ...And to reward good play, perhaps divide their points by how many CPs total
> > > they brought in. So players who bring in huge forces wont necessarily do
> > > better than players who bring in a couple small teams.
> >
> > This would definitely make the scoring fairer. A must if there is no limit to
> > the amount someone is able to field.
>
> ...I guess, depending on how big the field is and how many players there are, we might
> need to limit how much is fielded at one time by a player... but this may be something we
> have to find out as we play.. :-/
>
> > > possible other things:
> > > ...give points for each fig killed (maybe 100 points for a target, 10 pts for
> > > a fig?) to encourage bloodshed :-)
> >
> > Basing this on the troop's CP would be better, as a trooper with a deathgun is
> > more of a challenge than one with a pistol.
>
> ...Yea, but if everyone is worth the same, you'll go after all the cannon fodder, leading
> to more bloodshed! :-) I was thinking 10 pts each just to make the math easier, at 10pts
> each, just put a tick mark on a sheet vice having to write down all the kill cps.
>
> > > ...bonus points for spectacular deaths (small missile takes out 15 figs), best
> > > unit, amazing saves (1 fig survives full onslaught of a heavy mecha), most
> > > stoopid thing done, etc
> >
> > This has possibilities... :)
> >
> > > ...some fixed 'neutral' weapons or bunkers that can be operated by whoever
> > > happens to get them (optionally, neutral weapons are indestructible).
> >
> > Indestructible might not be a good thing... A smart player could have some
> > troops hole up in a bunker and make them nigh invincible. Weapon choice would
> > play a big part here. On the other hand, major bonus points could be
> > awarded...
>
> ...But if the bunkers and weapons arent part of the target zones, they could hole up there
> all day and still not win (tho get lots of points for killing ppl! :-)
>
> ...you can go back to ignoring me now...
>
> wubwub
> stephen f roberts
> wamalug guy (http://wamalug.org)
> wildlink.com
> lugnet #160
|
|
| |
Stephen F Roberts wrote:
>
> ...We were going to do some Brikwars at the East Coast Brikfest (june 9-11, join
> lugnet.org.us.wamalug for info), Jeff proposed a 'round the clock/continuous game' kind of
> thing. So I'm posting my initial ideas for how to structure this thing to get
> feedback/ideas from youse guys.
Would there be an interest in the Pirate Game also? I'd be willing to
run that (and can provide plenty of ships). That would be another good
round the clock type game.
--
Frank Filz
-----------------------------
Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
|
|
| |
In lugnet.fun.gaming, Frank Filz writes:
> Stephen F Roberts wrote:
> >
> > ...We were going to do some Brikwars at the East Coast Brikfest (june 9-11,
> > join lugnet.org.us.wamalug for info), Jeff proposed a 'round the
> > clock/continuous game' kind of thing. So I'm posting my initial ideas for
> > how to structure this thing to get feedback/ideas from youse guys.
>
> Would there be an interest in the Pirate Game also? I'd be willing to
> run that (and can provide plenty of ships). That would be another good
> round the clock type game.
Oooh!! Yes, I'd be interested! Hmmm... I'd have to make some Pirate ships
for it... Would Airships (a la Final Fantasy) be okay? ;)
We were also thinking of a Medieval/Fantasy Brickwars game. Would there be
interest in that as well?
Jeff
|
|
| |
Jeff Stembel wrote:
> In lugnet.fun.gaming, Frank Filz writes:
> > Stephen F Roberts wrote:
> > >
> > > ...We were going to do some Brikwars at the East Coast Brikfest (june 9-11,
> > > join lugnet.org.us.wamalug for info), Jeff proposed a 'round the
> > > clock/continuous game' kind of thing. So I'm posting my initial ideas for
> > > how to structure this thing to get feedback/ideas from youse guys.
> >
> > Would there be an interest in the Pirate Game also? I'd be willing to
> > run that (and can provide plenty of ships). That would be another good
> > round the clock type game.
>
> Oooh!! Yes, I'd be interested! Hmmm... I'd have to make some Pirate ships
> for it... Would Airships (a la Final Fantasy) be okay? ;)
Definitely colour me there and interested, even if I *can't* use _Gloire_. ;) I
can put together other ships on fairly short notice. I'll even give 'em two boats
each, so I can kedge around. Oh, and I can bring some snakes if we want to make a
horrid, horrid Snake Island.
best
Lindsay
|
|
| |
Mr L F Braun wrote:
>
> Jeff Stembel wrote:
>
> > In lugnet.fun.gaming, Frank Filz writes:
> > > Stephen F Roberts wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ...We were going to do some Brikwars at the East Coast Brikfest (june 9-11,
> > > > join lugnet.org.us.wamalug for info), Jeff proposed a 'round the
> > > > clock/continuous game' kind of thing. So I'm posting my initial ideas for
> > > > how to structure this thing to get feedback/ideas from youse guys.
> > >
> > > Would there be an interest in the Pirate Game also? I'd be willing to
> > > run that (and can provide plenty of ships). That would be another good
> > > round the clock type game.
> >
> > Oooh!! Yes, I'd be interested! Hmmm... I'd have to make some Pirate ships
> > for it... Would Airships (a la Final Fantasy) be okay? ;)
Airships probably wouldn't fit in too well. The Pirate Game is
relatively non-fantastic (though not totally so).
> Definitely colour me there and interested, even if I *can't* use _Gloire_. ;) I
> can put together other ships on fairly short notice. I'll even give 'em two boats
> each, so I can kedge around. Oh, and I can bring some snakes if we want to make a
> horrid, horrid Snake Island.
Depending on how many players we have, I may be able to supply all the
ships. I can almost certainly supply all the mini-figs (I have something
like 1200 Pirate theme mini-figs).
To minimize issues of what stuff belongs to whom, I'd be inclined to
keep as much of the small stuff which gets moved around to coming from a
single collection. Ships and scenery on the other hand are a little
easier to keep track of.
I will contact Steve and see if I can shake out the GM charts, otherwise
we'll have to wing those. I can probably get him to send me a photocopy
(I've been waiting for like a year no for them to show up on the web).
--
Frank Filz
-----------------------------
Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
|
|
| |
> Indestructible might not be a good thing... A smart player could have some
> troops hole up in a bunker and make them nigh invincible. Weapon choice would
> play a big part here. On the other hand, major bonus points could be
> awarded...
>
> Jeff
Actually, I don't think that would be so bad. You copuld clear out the bunker
by poping an mkII missles off a bazooka, and through the window. That would
make a few fig unhappy...
Pearson
|
|
| |
Frank Filz wrote:
> I will contact Steve and see if I can shake out the GM charts, otherwise
> we'll have to wing those. I can probably get him to send me a photocopy
> (I've been waiting for like a year no for them to show up on the web).
I e-mailed Steve over the weekend, and will be sending him an SSAE today
to get copies of the GM charts. He also expressed some interest in
coming to the Brickfest, though he said his June schedule is tight.
Please let me know if we want to actually go forward with the Pirate
Game.
--
Frank Filz
-----------------------------
Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
|
|
| |
Frank Filz <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Frank Filz wrote:
> > I will contact Steve and see if I can shake out the GM charts, otherwise
> > we'll have to wing those. I can probably get him to send me a photocopy
> > (I've been waiting for like a year no for them to show up on the web).
>
> I e-mailed Steve over the weekend, and will be sending him an SSAE today
> to get copies of the GM charts. He also expressed some interest in
> coming to the Brickfest, though he said his June schedule is tight.
...errrrr... Steve may be coming? As in Steve Jackson?
> Please let me know if we want to actually go forward with the Pirate
> Game.
...I'm all for it! All I've got at the moment are a couple of basic pirate ships, but
that'll still be fun! :-)
...you can go back to ignoring me now...
wubwub
stephen f roberts
wamalug guy (http://wamalug.org)
wildlink.com
lugnet #160
|
|
| |
Stephen F Roberts wrote:
>
> Frank Filz <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > Frank Filz wrote:
> > > I will contact Steve and see if I can shake out the GM charts, otherwise
> > > we'll have to wing those. I can probably get him to send me a photocopy
> > > (I've been waiting for like a year no for them to show up on the web).
> >
> > I e-mailed Steve over the weekend, and will be sending him an SSAE today
> > to get copies of the GM charts. He also expressed some interest in
> > coming to the Brickfest, though he said his June schedule is tight.
>
> ...errrrr... Steve may be coming? As in Steve Jackson?
The self-same, but I judge from his response that it is very unlikely.
> > Please let me know if we want to actually go forward with the Pirate
> > Game.
>
> ...I'm all for it! All I've got at the moment are a couple of basic pirate ships, but
> that'll still be fun! :-)
If the ok comes on down, don't worry, we can have a quite healty sized
game. I now have at least two of every pirate ship (though not all
currently built). I also have a ton of extra stuff.
--
Frank Filz
-----------------------------
Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
|
|
| |
In lugnet.fun.gaming, Frank Filz writes:
> Stephen F Roberts wrote:
> Would there be an interest in the Pirate Game also? I'd be willing to
> run that (and can provide plenty of ships). That would be another good
> round the clock type game.
I'm all over this! (Is that common vernacular, or do I need to explain that
I'm very interested?)
You have any details yet? Can I run an island full of exotic dangers that they
have to land on and recover something from?
If so, can I run the island and non-affiliated ships during the ship phase?
Just so I don't get bored during the twelve hours of Ship to Ship combat?
I'm really excited about this gathering!
Chris
|
|
| |
In lugnet.fun.gaming, Frank Filz writes:
> Would there be an interest in the Pirate Game also? I'd be willing to
> run that (and can provide plenty of ships). That would be another good
> round the clock type game.
Hey, if you provide the ships, I'm there. Don't have any of my own, but I'd
love to participate anyhow.
-Shiri
|
|
| |
In lugnet.fun.gaming, Shiri Dori writes:
> In lugnet.fun.gaming, Frank Filz writes:
> > Would there be an interest in the Pirate Game also? I'd be willing to
> > run that (and can provide plenty of ships). That would be another good
> > round the clock type game.
>
> Hey, if you provide the ships, I'm there. Don't have any of my own, but I'd
> love to participate anyhow.
Heywaitaminnit! Didn't you buy your sister the Belville yacht? Bring that
along, outfitted with the dancing "Pirates of Penzance." I wonder if we can
get pink epulets from LEGO Direct once they get rolling.
:-)
Chris
|
|
| |
In lugnet.fun.gaming, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> I wonder if we can get pink epulets from LEGO Direct
> once they get rolling.
p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-*PINK* epaulets?!?!?!?!?!
must....stay....sane.....
must........stay........sane.........
must............stay............sane............
losing..............control.................
AAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
| |
In lugnet.fun.gaming, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> I wonder if we can get pink epulets from LEGO Direct once they get rolling.
You can count me in on that!! :)
Jeff
"Oooh!!! New color for that part! I must have it!"
|
|
| |
In lugnet.fun.gaming, Shiri Dori writes:
> In lugnet.fun.gaming, Frank Filz writes:
> > Would there be an interest in the Pirate Game also? I'd be willing to
> > run that (and can provide plenty of ships). That would be another good
> > round the clock type game.
>
> Hey, if you provide the ships, I'm there. Don't have any of my own, but I'd
> love to participate anyhow.
>
> -Shiri
If I get around to building some, I should be able to provide extras as well.
I think around 10-12 ships, more if I use the bow bricks from Town sets...
Jeff
P.S. Is there any length limit? I think I could make a five center-hull
lengthed brown boat...
Jeff
|
|
| |
Frank Filz <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Stephen F Roberts wrote:
> >
> > Frank Filz <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Frank Filz wrote:
> > > > I will contact Steve and see if I can shake out the GM charts, otherwise
> > > > we'll have to wing those. I can probably get him to send me a photocopy
> > > > (I've been waiting for like a year no for them to show up on the web).
> > >
> > > I e-mailed Steve over the weekend, and will be sending him an SSAE today
> > > to get copies of the GM charts. He also expressed some interest in
> > > coming to the Brickfest, though he said his June schedule is tight.
> >
> > ...errrrr... Steve may be coming? As in Steve Jackson?
>
> The self-same, but I judge from his response that it is very unlikely.
...whoa... just the thought he was considering it is a lot! SJ is one of my assorted
Heros. I used to pester the hell out of him at sci fi cons... following him everywhere and
listening to everything he had to say :-)
...you can go back to ignoring me now...
wubwub
stephen f roberts
wamalug guy (http://wamalug.org)
wildlink.com
lugnet #160
|
|
| |
In lugnet.fun.gaming, Stephen F. Roberts writes:
>
> ...whoa... just the thought he was considering it is a lot!
> SJ is one of my assorted Heros. I used to pester the hell out of him
> at sci fi cons... following him everywhere and listening to everything
> he had to say :-)
Steve Jackson _will_ be here in _Atlanta_ for Dragon*Con [1]
this June/July, and will be running his infamous Lego Pirate Game
on Saturday. D*C usually offers one-day, at-the-door memberships,
in case you manage to get here and want to play in the Pirate Game.
Thanks,
Franklin
[1] -- "http://www.dragoncon.org"
|
|
| |
Jeff Stembel wrote:
>
> In lugnet.fun.gaming, Shiri Dori writes:
> > In lugnet.fun.gaming, Frank Filz writes:
> > > Would there be an interest in the Pirate Game also? I'd be willing to
> > > run that (and can provide plenty of ships). That would be another good
> > > round the clock type game.
> >
> > Hey, if you provide the ships, I'm there. Don't have any of my own, but I'd
> > love to participate anyhow.
> >
> > -Shiri
>
> If I get around to building some, I should be able to provide extras as well.
> I think around 10-12 ships, more if I use the bow bricks from Town sets...
>
> Jeff
>
> P.S. Is there any length limit? I think I could make a five center-hull
> lengthed brown boat...
The longest the rules mention is 4 center sections, but I don't think
Steve actually ever runs even those (the ship record sheets online only
go up to 3 center section ships). I think most of the ships Steve runs
in his games are smaller ships.
I think I'll send Steve some e-mails and get a conversation going about
what mix of ships he tends to run.
For people who would like to work on ships, some things to think about
(The following includes some extractions from the rules at
http://www.io.com/~sj/PirateGame1.html )
SHIP CLASSES
Ships and boats are divided into CLASSES, based on size:
0 - Boat (a canoe, rowboat or sailboat, or longboat)
1 - Cutter (which, in my own fleet, includes a lot of
different little ships that are not really "cutters," from
miniature square-riggers to sloops). A cutter is a small
custom-built hull. A more precise definition may be needed.
2 - Brig, or regular ship with no center sections. A brig is a
larger custom- built hull. Again, a more precise definition is
needed. Or maybe not.
3 - Regular ship with 1 center section, or wide ship with no
center sections.
4 - Regular ship with 2 center sections, or wide ship with 1
center section.
5 - Regular ship with 3 center sections. Center sections
being hard to come by, these "schooners" are rare.
6 - Wide ship with 2 center sections.
7 - Wide ship with 3 center sections.
8 - Wide ship with 4 center sections.
A ship's class determines:
(1) How many guns it can carry. The number is equal to its
class.
(2) How many hull hits it can take: 10 times its class, with a
minimum of 1.
(3) How many rigging hits it can take: 5 times its class, with
a minimum of 1.
(4) whether there is a bonus or penalty to hit it with cannon
fire.
(5) starting crew (6 per class)
Per Steve's communications, every ship has at least one rotating cannon
mounted on the deck or so. Larger ships have 2-3 rotators. The maximum
number of broadside cannon (firing through a gun port) is 5 (to get 5
broadside cannon on my red/white/dk grey modified BSB, I had to put a
cannon in the captain's cabin - this cannon can also fire out the
stern).
I would suggest the following for numbers of rotating cannon (note the
overlap in class ranges):
1 rotator on class 1-4
2 rotators on class 4-7
3 rotator on class 7-8
In general, rotating cannon are more flexible (though there may be
situations where a similarly placed broadside cannon could be brought to
bear when a rotator can't since a full broadside may be fired at any
target that at least one of the broadside cannon can hit).
Broadside cannon may be moved from side to side. The rules aren't clear
on if this takes time or not. I need to clear up a few issues like that
with Steve.
We will also need some merchant ships, which generally will be smaller.
Many of these will be cutters. I talked with Steve once about making
custom built class 3 ships, and he said that it would be reasonable to
make those with the 10 wide hull sections (make a 10 wide ship which is
a little longer than a 12 wide ship with 1 center section). Brigs should
be similarly sized to a 12 wide ship with no center sections (6268,
6250), these should be wider than 6 wide (Steve uses inverse slopes to
widen a 6 wide hull to 8 wide). Short 10 wide ships would be reasonable
for brigs also.
--
Frank Filz
-----------------------------
Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
|
|
| |
Christopher Weeks wrote:
>
> In lugnet.fun.gaming, Frank Filz writes:
> > Stephen F Roberts wrote:
>
> > Would there be an interest in the Pirate Game also? I'd be willing to
> > run that (and can provide plenty of ships). That would be another good
> > round the clock type game.
>
> I'm all over this! (Is that common vernacular, or do I need to explain that
> I'm very interested?)
>
> You have any details yet? Can I run an island full of exotic dangers that they
> have to land on and recover something from?
>
> If so, can I run the island and non-affiliated ships during the ship phase?
> Just so I don't get bored during the twelve hours of Ship to Ship combat?
>
> I'm really excited about this gathering!
I think at this point it would be helpfull to get an idea of who all
wants to play so we can start to get an idea if this should be a
definite and how much space we might need (of course how much space we
can have is up to the Brikfest organizers...). To facilitate this, I'd
like the following info:
Name
How long do you want to play (1)
Have you played before
Are you willing to help GM (2)
What ships would you like to bring
Do you want to supply some islands (3)
What else would you like to bring
(1) as long as possible, a few hours, half the day
(2) take a spell to relieve me, play NPC ships and islands, or whatever
(3) if you want to supply a specialty island, either you should help GM
or we need to figure out how to deal with your knowledge about it, of
course if you want to leave specifics up to the GMs, that's fine also
If we go for a long game, I would envision set up Friday
afternoon/evening (if we go for a long day, I'll take Friday off so I
can get up there by the afternoon) and game all Saturday. If we go with
a shorter game, we could set up Saturday morning and play in the
afternoon. Tear down should probably occur Saturday night but could
occur Sunday morning.
See my other post about ship building details if you want to build
ships. If we go for a long game, we will need a port or two or three if
anyone wants to build them (they can also just be designated areas, but
I have an idea for a pirate base which I may build).
Unless we have a huge game, I reccomend that we use just my minifigs,
treasure, and possibly even cannon (though we can use cotton tufts to
indicate out of commission cannon so we don't have to take them off your
ship). I have something like 1200 pirate theme minifigs including a fair
number of blue soldiers, a decent number of red, a decent number of
armada, and a hefty islander population (if someone really wants to play
islanders as a real competive position, I would consider coming up with
some ideas to make them more competitive [they just have small ships
without cannon]).
--
Frank Filz
-----------------------------
Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
|
|
| |
To answer my own questions...
> Name: Frank Filz
> How long do you want to play (1): As long as possible though I would like some breaks to eat and take in some of the other activities, and to go to the outlet store on Sunday
> Have you played before: no (but I'm enthusiastic and have run large games at cons before)
> Are you willing to help GM (2): happy to be chief GM
> What ships would you like to bring: I can bring quite a few ships, though I'll need to get cracking depending on how many are needed.
> Do you want to supply some islands (3): definitely (and I will bring a bunch of baseplates and palm trees etc so we can build simple islands to fill space if needed
> What else would you like to bring: anything which seems necessary
--
Frank Filz
-----------------------------
Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
|
|
| |
In lugnet.fun.gaming, Frank Filz writes:
~ Name: Jeff Stembel
~ How long do you want to play: Only as long as I'm winning! Just kidding,
I'd like to play for at least a few hours, as I'd also like to do some of the
other things. I will undoubtedly have fest tasks to do also.
~ Have you played before: Nope
~ Are you willing to help GM: Sure, sounds like fun!
~ What ships would you like to bring: Well, I don't have any built now, but I
have the hulls for 6285(1), 6289(2.5?) 6274(2), 6250(4?), plus a hefty number
of bow bricks for cutters... Sails will be a major problem however, as I am
entirely unsure wher most of mine are...
~ Do you want to supply some islands: I can definitely supply island plates,
I could probably put stuff on em, and make my own islands. I also have *loads*
of palm trees...
~ What else would you like to bring: Hmmm... Dunno, I got quite a lot of
stuff though...
|
|
| |
In lugnet.fun.gaming, Frank Filz writes:
> Name
Christopher Weeks
> How long do you want to play (1)
Not sure. If it's lots of fun I could go for an 12-18 hour stretch with meal
breaks. I'm willing to commit to 6-8 hours for sure.
> Have you played before
Nope.
> Are you willing to help GM (2)
Sure, as long as it's not bizzarrely complicated. Does this use a tape
measure, or studs, or what for distance determination? I have tape measures!
> What ships would you like to bring
None.
> Do you want to supply some islands (3)
I could.
> What else would you like to bring
What do you need? I could try building a port if you'd give me some rough
sizes to work toward. I can't guarentee authenticity though :-)
> (3) if you want to supply a specialty island, either you should help GM
> or we need to figure out how to deal with your knowledge about it, of
> course if you want to leave specifics up to the GMs, that's fine also
OK, let's figure it out. First, how big must an island be for it to really
count? I'm thinking that those ships are big and it'll have to be fairly
large. To what degree is the game just a miniatures board-game? How does it
go beyond that?
> If we go for a long game, I would envision set up Friday
> afternoon/evening (if we go for a long day, I'll take Friday off so I
I'm taking Friday off, so I'll be around to help with setup at that time if
that's what we decide.
> can get up there by the afternoon) and game all Saturday. If we go with
> a shorter game, we could set up Saturday morning and play in the
> afternoon. Tear down should probably occur Saturday night but could
> occur Sunday morning.
Is the public going to be around, or just the participants (of the brickfest, I
mean)? If it's going to be a public event, it might be worth setting up ASAP,
and playing during certain timeslots so as to drag it out and leave it set up
as long as possible. But only if security is satisfactory.
> we will need a port or two or three if
> anyone wants to build them (they can also just be designated areas, but
> I have an idea for a pirate base which I may build).
See above.
> Unless we have a huge game, I reccomend that we use just my minifigs,
> treasure, and possibly even cannon (though we can use cotton tufts to
Good for me. Your collection wildly dwarfs mine.
and a hefty islander population (if someone really wants to play
> islanders as a real competive position, I would consider coming up with
> some ideas to make them more competitive [they just have small ships
> without cannon]).
What counts as hefty? How many would there have to be defending islands to be
a reasonable force? You mentioned in a previous post that it's primarily
non-fantasy. How important is that? Islanders could have tribal magics or
something to get them into the game.
Chris
|
|
| |
In lugnet.fun.gaming, Franklin W. Cain writes:
> AAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Score!
Chris
|
|
| |
Christopher Weeks wrote:
> > How long do you want to play (1)
>
> Not sure. If it's lots of fun I could go for an 12-18 hour stretch with meal
> breaks. I'm willing to commit to 6-8 hours for sure.
The game does allow for people to come and go (if you leave your ship in
port, it's safe, if you aren't around to move your ship, the GM will
move it towards the closest port). If a player needs to make a quick run
(like a bathroom run) and lets me know where their going, we'll wait for
them (or skip their turn and give it to them when they come back).
> Sure, as long as it's not bizzarrely complicated. Does this use a tape
> measure, or studs, or what for distance determination? I have tape measures!
The rules are here (along with other links):
http://www.io.com/~sj/PirateGame.html
Tape measures will be useful, so people should bring them if they have
them.
> > What else would you like to bring
>
> What do you need? I could try building a port if you'd give me some rough
> sizes to work toward. I can't guarentee authenticity though :-)
>
> > (3) if you want to supply a specialty island, either you should help GM
> > or we need to figure out how to deal with your knowledge about it, of
> > course if you want to leave specifics up to the GMs, that's fine also
>
> OK, let's figure it out. First, how big must an island be for it to really
> count? I'm thinking that those ships are big and it'll have to be fairly
> large. To what degree is the game just a miniatures board-game? How does it
> go beyond that?
Scenic attractions (ports and islands) don't need to be that large. The
16x16 and 32x32 island plates make great stand alone islands (but any
plate can be used, islands can be rectangular). I'm thinking of making a
pirate base on a 96x96 base, but really a port could be of any size (or
could end up just being a space marked with masking tape if necessary
[actually, we'll probably do that anywise to indicate the "safe" area]).
Unless we will have a huge space, islands should tend to be small so
that there is room to sail the ships around.
The game is basically akin to tabletop miniatures games (as opposed to a
board game - the difference between tabletop and board games being that
board games have "squares" or "hexes" or "spaces" whereas tabletop games
use a tape measure to measure distance and unit position is arbitrary).
It is designed more to be fun than for historical accuracy. There is a
"campaign game" which basically adds more depth for longer games. If we
will be playing all day, we'll use the campaign game, for a shorter
game, we'll just run the combat game (with perhaps some embelishments
from the campaign game - I need to familiarize myself with the rules
more).
If you scroll down to the LEGO® WARGAMING section on my Pirate links
page:
file://localhost/home/ffilz/home/Lego/pirates.html
You'll find a couple links to photo-documentation of two different runs
of the game. From these, you can see that the islands tend to be small
(I don't see anything larger than a 32x32 island). The rules are also
illustrated (wander around Steve's website, there is a fair bit of
information packed in there).
> > If we go for a long game, I would envision set up Friday
> > afternoon/evening (if we go for a long day, I'll take Friday off so I
>
> I'm taking Friday off, so I'll be around to help with setup at that time if
> that's what we decide.
>
> > can get up there by the afternoon) and game all Saturday. If we go with
> > a shorter game, we could set up Saturday morning and play in the
> > afternoon. Tear down should probably occur Saturday night but could
> > occur Sunday morning.
>
> Is the public going to be around, or just the participants (of the brickfest, I
> mean)? If it's going to be a public event, it might be worth setting up ASAP,
> and playing during certain timeslots so as to drag it out and leave it set up
> as long as possible. But only if security is satisfactory.
If there is enough interest, I envision setting up Friday, running all
Saturday, with teardown Saturday evening or Sunday morning, with fairly
constant activity while the buildings are open, however, if pretty much
everyone wants to take a break at the same time, we can do that (but
should arrange to have someone be in the room). I'd also be happy to let
someone go make a lunch run for everyone (and if that person is a
player, they would get awarded some victory points for the sacrifice,
and their ship would be safe no matter where it is).
> and a hefty islander population (if someone really wants to play
> > islanders as a real competive position, I would consider coming up with
> > some ideas to make them more competitive [they just have small ships
> > without cannon]).
>
> What counts as hefty? How many would there have to be defending islands to be
> a reasonable force? You mentioned in a previous post that it's primarily
> non-fantasy. How important is that? Islanders could have tribal magics or
> something to get them into the game.
That's what I was thinking of. I may play around a bit with some ideas.
Of course even though they may not have the combat ability to duke it
out with a pirate ship, there is definitely a role playing element to
the game, and therefore possibilities for them.
--
Frank Filz
-----------------------------
Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
|
|
| |
Frank Filz wrote:
> Christopher Weeks wrote:
> >
> > In lugnet.fun.gaming, Frank Filz writes:
> > > Stephen F Roberts wrote:
> >
> > > Would there be an interest in the Pirate Game also? I'd be willing to
> > > run that (and can provide plenty of ships). That would be another good
> > > round the clock type game.
> >
> > I'm all over this! (Is that common vernacular, or do I need to explain that
> > I'm very interested?)
"We're THERE, dude." Either seems acceptable. ;)
> Name
Lindsay Frederick Braun
> How long do you want to play (1)
As long as possible; much of the weekend if necessary.
> Have you played before
Nope.
> Are you willing to help GM (2)
I probably could.
> What ships would you like to bring
I'm thinking of building a new ship, about BSB size plus one or two sections, built
in the mode of an Asian warship. I'd bring _Gloire_ but she's way too large (and too
recent) for the game--if she fits in my car, she'll be a display piece only.
Otherwise I'll rebuild my four-midsection Armada Flagship to omit the c.1870s
features (stack and turret).
> Do you want to supply some islands (3)
I could if necessary.
> What else would you like to bring
Caffeine.
> See my other post about ship building details if you want to build
> ships.
I've been looking for this, but I'm not sure where it is. I will modulate my
construction plans to account for it.
> If we go for a long game, we will need a port or two or three if
> anyone wants to build them (they can also just be designated areas, but
> I have an idea for a pirate base which I may build).
I might be able to cobble one of these together, using new parts I've acquired.
> Unless we have a huge game, I reccomend that we use just my minifigs,
> treasure, and possibly even cannon (though we can use cotton tufts to
> indicate out of commission cannon so we don't have to take them off your
> ship). I have something like 1200 pirate theme minifigs including a fair
> number of blue soldiers, a decent number of red, a decent number of
> armada, and a hefty islander population (if someone really wants to play
> islanders as a real competive position, I would consider coming up with
> some ideas to make them more competitive [they just have small ships
> without cannon]).
Perhaps we could allow them speed and HTH-combat bonuses, so that their physical
warfare can offset the pirates' range advantage? Or maybe allow them to "respawn,"
since they have a theoretically limitless population (living nearby and all)?
Let me know--of course much of my provision depends on whether I can actually find a
place to live for 1 June. Otherwise I may not be able to attend at all. :(
best
Lindsay
|
|
| |
In lugnet.fun.gaming, Frank Filz writes:
> Name
Shiri Dori
> How long do you want to play (1)
a few hours, but I will probably be mostly welling in the castle area.
> Have you played before
Nope.
> Are you willing to help GM (2)
Sure, whatever you need!
> What ships would you like to bring
Umm, I don't really have any ('cept for the BV yacht, I doubt that qualifies ;)
> Do you want to supply some islands (3)
I'd love to. I have a few island BPs to bring over, is there anything special
I should do with them? Put awful creatures, traps, ...?
Perhaps my inn could serve as a healing post? :-)
> What else would you like to bring
Whatever you need and I have.
-Shiri
|
|
| |
In lugnet.fun.gaming, Jeff Stembel writes:
> In lugnet.fun.gaming, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> > I wonder if we can get pink epulets from LEGO Direct once they get rolling.
>
> You can count me in on that!! :)
>
> Jeff
> "Oooh!!! New color for that part! I must have it!"
Well, if you like, you could both send me entries for my Lego Direct wants
page, to "unofficially" register this as something you'd like to see. :P
http://home.xnet.com/~catena/ld_want.shtml
|
|
| |
Mr L F Braun wrote:
> > What ships would you like to bring
>
> I'm thinking of building a new ship, about BSB size plus one or two sections, built
> in the mode of an Asian warship. I'd bring _Gloire_ but she's way too large (and too
> recent) for the game--if she fits in my car, she'll be a display piece only.
> Otherwise I'll rebuild my four-midsection Armada Flagship to omit the c.1870s
> features (stack and turret).
I'd encourage anyone who has display pieces which are pirate related to
display them in the same area (of course this is all dependant on us
being able to have one of the rooms).
Note that the largest ships that Steve Jackson tends to use is 12 wides
with 2 center sections or 16 wides with 3 center sections, though the
rules do cover 3 center section 12 wides and 4 center section 16 wides.
> > Do you want to supply some islands (3)
>
> I could if necessary.
>
> > What else would you like to bring
>
> Caffeine.
>
> > See my other post about ship building details if you want to build
> > ships.
>
> I've been looking for this, but I'm not sure where it is. I will modulate my
> construction plans to account for it.
Here:
http://www.lugnet.com/pirates/?n=914
--
Frank Filz
-----------------------------
Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
|
|
| |
I am now in possession of the GM charts!!!!
It looks like from Stephen's post about Brickfest that we are pretty much
on, if this can be confirmed, I'll pass the word to Steve Jackson, and he
will add the Brickfest to his web listing of upcoming games (which could
very well generate more interest in Brickfest).
I will be asking Steve to clarify a few things about the charts, and I may
also modify some of the things, which will leave his charts a little more
secret (you can always e-mail him and send an SSAE for a copy, or talk him
out of a copy at the games he runs). The information suggests a bunch of
assistant GMs are necessary, but unless we have a huge number of players, I
think I will try and make do with one or two assistants (we do want to have
people playing the game after all...).
Frank
|
|
| |
> Name:
Steve Campbell
> How long do you want to play
Several hours. I'd like some time to tour the other rooms and shmooze.
> Have you played before
Narrr
> Are you willing to help GM
Sharrr!
> What ships would you like to bring
I have an RBR derivative called the Wraith mounting 3 cannon per side, 1 swivel
turret on the bow, and 2 stern chasers.
> Do you want to supply some islands
I have one I could bring but I'll need to figure out how to pack it up. It's a 32x32
baseplate from Pirates Perilous Pitfall with a fort mounting 4 cannon plus a 32x16
plate attached for the docks.
> What else would you like to bring
A hankie for all of the lubbers I send to Davy Jones' Locker! Arrr!
q:-)
My plans right now are to travel Saturday morning so my ETA will be between 10 am
and 12 noon on Saturday. But don't wait up for me.
SteveC
|
|
| |
"Frank Filz" <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I am now in possession of the GM charts!!!!
>
> It looks like from Stephen's post about Brickfest that we are pretty much
> on, if this can be confirmed, I'll pass the word to Steve Jackson, and he
> will add the Brickfest to his web listing of upcoming games (which could
> very well generate more interest in Brickfest).
...Even if it weren't on, there's enough people there to make it go on! :-) But yesh!
There will be a pirate game on Saturday (prolly Friday and Sunday too :-), so bring your
boats and cannon and pirates and lets go!
> I will be asking Steve to clarify a few things about the charts, and I may
> also modify some of the things, which will leave his charts a little more
> secret (you can always e-mail him and send an SSAE for a copy, or talk him
> out of a copy at the games he runs). The information suggests a bunch of
> assistant GMs are necessary, but unless we have a huge number of players, I
> think I will try and make do with one or two assistants (we do want to have
> people playing the game after all...).
...You'll need to brief us more on how to make our ships battle ready. Do we need large
crews of minifigs? Can we overload on cannon? Can we make a shark catapult? :-)
...you can go back to ignoring me now...
wubwub
stephen f roberts
wamalug guy (http://wamalug.org)
Jain's Guide (http://wildlink.com/lego/jain)
Visit the wildlink (http://wildlink.com)
lugnet #160
|
|
| |
Stephen F Roberts wrote:
>
> "Frank Filz" <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > I am now in possession of the GM charts!!!!
> >
> > It looks like from Stephen's post about Brickfest that we are pretty much
> > on, if this can be confirmed, I'll pass the word to Steve Jackson, and he
> > will add the Brickfest to his web listing of upcoming games (which could
> > very well generate more interest in Brickfest).
>
> ...Even if it weren't on, there's enough people there to make it go on! :-) But yesh!
> There will be a pirate game on Saturday (prolly Friday and Sunday too :-), so bring your
> boats and cannon and pirates and lets go!
Ok, I'll let Steve know to put it on the schedule on his web page. I'm
not sure how quick he'll be able to get it on but it's worth at least
trying. In any case, once we have pictures after the fact, I'll pass the
word to him about where they are.
> ...You'll need to brief us more on how to make our ships battle ready. Do we need large
> crews of minifigs? Can we overload on cannon? Can we make a shark catapult? :-)
I'll answer this one later (gotta head home)...
--
Frank Filz
-----------------------------
Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
|
|
| |
Frank Filz wrote:
> Stephen F Roberts wrote:
> > ...You'll need to brief us more on how to make our ships battle ready. Do we need large
> > crews of minifigs? Can we overload on cannon? Can we make a shark catapult? :-)
>
> I'll answer this one later (gotta head home)...
Dolphin saboteurs? ;)
LFB
|
|
| |
In lugnet.fun.gaming, Frank Filz writes:
> Ok, I'll let Steve know to put it on the schedule on his web page. I'm
> not sure how quick he'll be able to get it on but it's worth at least
You mentioned the possibility of his participation. Is that ruled out at this
point, or are you in close enough communication to know?
Chris
|
|
| |
In lugnet.fun.gaming, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> In lugnet.fun.gaming, Frank Filz writes:
>
> > Ok, I'll let Steve know to put it on the schedule on his web page. I'm
> > not sure how quick he'll be able to get it on but it's worth at least
>
> You mentioned the possibility of his participation. Is that ruled out at this
> point, or are you in close enough communication to know?
Not ruled out, but from what he said is unlikely (though I don't think he will
be at an already scheduled appearance that weekend from what I have seen or he
has mentioned). I've pointed him to the Brickfest web site, so if he is able
to make it, he knows who to contact, and will presumably let us know. It would
be cool if he could make it (and he's definitely interested in the idea - over
the past year or so, I think his interest in other LEGO themes has grown).
Frank
|
|
| |
Frank Filz wrote:
> > ...You'll need to brief us more on how to make our ships battle ready. Do we need large
> > crews of minifigs? Can we overload on cannon? Can we make a shark catapult? :-)
>
> I'll answer this one later (gotta head home)...
Sorry I didn't get to this last night...
If we do something like the campaign game, we will want many smaller
ships, and even if we play the battle game, it will still be nice to
have bunches of smaller ships. I will start building some small ships
over the next couple weeks. Unless we have a huge number of players,
lets just use my minifigs so we don't need to keep track of who belongs
to whom. If you have a favorite fig you want to use for your captain,
that would probably be ok (captains are easier to keep track of).
Another reason to keep to the smaller ships is to make things more
manageable since it sounds like for the most part we aren't familiar
with the rules.
Here's a post I made earlier with ship building guidelines:
http://www.lugnet.com/pirates/?n=914
Also check out Steve's pages and the pictures from the photo-documented
games:
Building Cutters and Brigs
http://www.io.com/~sj/cutters.html
Parte ye Firste: Combat
http://www.io.com/~sj/PirateGame1.html
Parte ye Second: The Campaign Game
http://www.io.com/~sj/PirateGame2.html
Tom Lentz's pictures of Steve Jackson's Pirate game
http://members.home.net/tlentz/pirates.html
Marcon LEGO® Pirates!
http://www.bright.net/~bdspicer/articles/lego/legopics.htm
Remember to come in costume for bonuses... (of course I'll have to dig
out a costume myself).
As far as things like dolphin saboteurs and shark catapults... Well, the
game is mostly serious, but does allow a little bit of fun (one hint
about how far the fun might extend though, I asked Steve once about the
role monkeys could play, and he mentioned that they had a role for them
early on, but dropped it as being too corny). I could see some room
however for some extra intelligent dolphins (so if you want to e-mail me
with ideas, I may compile a set of "rumors" about dolphins and publish
them. Of course reality will be based on what I or any assistant GMs
decide, though one possible hint is that I do own a trans-blue dolphin
[I don't think I have any white ones though - but if someone brings
some...]).
--
Frank Filz
-----------------------------
Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
|
|
| |
Stephen A. Campbell wrote:
> > Are you willing to help GM
Gee, I think just about everyone is willing to GM...
> Sharrr!
>
> > What ships would you like to bring
>
> I have an RBR derivative called the Wraith mounting 3 cannon per side, 1 swivel
> turret on the bow, and 2 stern chasers.
Is that a 2 center section ship or larger? Are the stern chasers under
the poop deck? The game doesn't particularly deal with stern chasers,
but I'd consider allowing a ship to have two stern chasers in place of
one regular cannon. The ship will have a lesser ability to fight ships
to the side or ahead, but would have a superior capability to fire to
the rear.
As a class 6 ship this could actually have one more cannon (the way
Steve runs the game, broadside firing cannon can be used on either side
- I see no problem with the actual model having cannon for both sides,
but when a cannon is hit, a pair would be destroyed, and you can only
fire each pair once per turn).
> > Do you want to supply some islands
>
> I have one I could bring but I'll need to figure out how to pack it up. It's a 32x32
> baseplate from Pirates Perilous Pitfall with a fort mounting 4 cannon plus a 32x16
> plate attached for the docks.
Sounds like a nice fort. If we set up before you get there (most
likely), I'll just chose a location and have it surrounded by a storm
until you arrive...
> My plans right now are to travel Saturday morning so my ETA will be between 10 am
> and 12 noon on Saturday. But don't wait up for me.
Sounds fine. Since I really want to do something along the lines of the
campaign game, players can drop in at any time...
--
Frank Filz
-----------------------------
Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
|
|
| |
Frank Filz <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Frank Filz wrote:
> > > ...You'll need to brief us more on how to make our ships battle ready. Do we need large
> > > crews of minifigs? Can we overload on cannon? Can we make a shark catapult? :-)
> >
> > I'll answer this one later (gotta head home)...
>
> Sorry I didn't get to this last night...
>
> If we do something like the campaign game, we will want many smaller
> ships, and even if we play the battle game, it will still be nice to
> have bunches of smaller ships. I will start building some small ships
> over the next couple weeks. Unless we have a huge number of players,
> lets just use my minifigs so we don't need to keep track of who belongs
> to whom. If you have a favorite fig you want to use for your captain,
> that would probably be ok (captains are easier to keep track of).
>
> Another reason to keep to the smaller ships is to make things more
> manageable since it sounds like for the most part we aren't familiar
> with the rules.
>
> Here's a post I made earlier with ship building guidelines:
...when in doubt read the instructions :-) Well, I'm gonna kill lots of trees and print it
all out to read! (paperless office be damned!)
...you can go back to ignoring me now...
wubwub
stephen f roberts
wamalug guy (http://wamalug.org)
Jain's Guide (http://wildlink.com/lego/jain)
Visit the wildlink (http://wildlink.com)
lugnet #160
|
|
| |
Frank Filz wrote:
> Is that a 2 center section ship or larger? Are the stern chasers under
> the poop deck? The game doesn't particularly deal with stern chasers,
> but I'd consider allowing a ship to have two stern chasers in place of
> one regular cannon. The ship will have a lesser ability to fight ships
> to the side or ahead, but would have a superior capability to fire to
> the rear.
>
> As a class 6 ship this could actually have one more cannon (the way
> Steve runs the game, broadside firing cannon can be used on either side
> - I see no problem with the actual model having cannon for both sides,
> but when a cannon is hit, a pair would be destroyed, and you can only
> fire each pair once per turn).
I'll have to go throught he rules a bit, i think. The Wraith is a Class 6, two center
sections. Therefore, if I remove my redundant broadside cannon I have 6, which includes
the 2 stern chasers. I defer to the GM, of course, but we can discuss it at the Fest.
>
>
> > > Do you want to supply some islands
> >
> > I have one I could bring but I'll need to figure out how to pack it up. It's a 32x32
> > baseplate from Pirates Perilous Pitfall with a fort mounting 4 cannon plus a 32x16
> > plate attached for the docks.
>
> Sounds like a nice fort. If we set up before you get there (most
> likely), I'll just chose a location and have it surrounded by a storm
> until you arrive...
I will attempt a new land speed record...
Thanks Frank,
SteveC
|
|
| |
Stephen A. Campbell wrote:
>
> Frank Filz wrote:
>
> > Is that a 2 center section ship or larger? Are the stern chasers under
> > the poop deck? The game doesn't particularly deal with stern chasers,
> > but I'd consider allowing a ship to have two stern chasers in place of
> > one regular cannon. The ship will have a lesser ability to fight ships
> > to the side or ahead, but would have a superior capability to fire to
> > the rear.
> >
> > As a class 6 ship this could actually have one more cannon (the way
> > Steve runs the game, broadside firing cannon can be used on either side
> > - I see no problem with the actual model having cannon for both sides,
> > but when a cannon is hit, a pair would be destroyed, and you can only
> > fire each pair once per turn).
>
> I'll have to go throught he rules a bit, i think. The Wraith is a Class 6, two center
> sections. Therefore, if I remove my redundant broadside cannon I have 6, which includes
> the 2 stern chasers. I defer to the GM, of course, but we can discuss it at the Fest.
I just received communication from Steve about stern chasers. He had
them in an early version of the game, but they ended up just being a
hassle. So let's not deal with that, but if you don't want to re-build
your ship to add another broadside cannon, we can just count the
sternchasers as a single broadside cannon. Also no real need to remove
the redundant cannon (like I said before, we just need to destroy them
in pairs).
> > Sounds like a nice fort. If we set up before you get there (most
> > likely), I'll just chose a location and have it surrounded by a storm
> > until you arrive...
>
> I will attempt a new land speed record...
Try not to get a ticket...
--
Frank Filz
-----------------------------
Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
|
|
|
