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I've been thinking a bit about those Wolfpack and Forestmen (1).
First of all, I think the reason they are so sought after and viewed as "cool"
by many castleers (aside from being hard-to-get :) is their rag-tag and
slightly disorganized personality. Unlike the other subthemes, these don't
have a defined-by-TLC leader (unlike King Leo, Majisto, etc) but are sort of
improvised "armies".
Their connotation is also very different. While most subthemes have a pretty
clear cut connotation (eg RK -> good guys, FK -> bad guys), these groups are
not definite. Some view them as thieves, others view them as wandering
warriors.
There's much more I can say about this, but another thing I came up with in
the process of thinking about them:
The WP seem forest-like to me. IMHO, brown is a great forest color and fits
the forest life. The "forestmen" OTOH seem to fit a more lush, green valley
life.
In my realm, the WP will not be theives as many people view them. The
forestmen might be, tho'. The WP will DEFINITELY have a leader in my world and
they might (or might not) be allied with the FM.
I have not thought out this whole idea but these were my first thoughts.
LMKWYT!
-Shiri
(1) I say Forestmen but the referrence is to both Dark Forest AND Forestmen.
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In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
> I've been thinking a bit about those Wolfpack and Forestmen (1).
>
> First of all, I think the reason they are so sought after and viewed as "cool"
> by many castleers (aside from being hard-to-get :) is their rag-tag and
> slightly disorganized personality. Unlike the other subthemes, these don't
> have a defined-by-TLC leader (unlike King Leo, Majisto, etc) but are sort of
> improvised "armies".
> Their connotation is also very different. While most subthemes have a pretty
> clear cut connotation (eg RK -> good guys, FK -> bad guys), these groups are
> not definite. Some view them as thieves, others view them as wandering
> warriors.
>
> There's much more I can say about this, but another thing I came up with in
> the process of thinking about them:
> The WP seem forest-like to me. IMHO, brown is a great forest color and fits
> the forest life. The "forestmen" OTOH seem to fit a more lush, green valley
> life.
> In my realm, the WP will not be theives as many people view them. The
> forestmen might be, tho'. The WP will DEFINITELY have a leader in my world and
> they might (or might not) be allied with the FM.
>
> I have not thought out this whole idea but these were my first thoughts.
> LMKWYT!
>
> -Shiri
>
> (1) I say Forestmen but the referrence is to both Dark Forest AND Forestmen.
Right on, Shiri! I'd have to agree with just about everything. The one thing
that's different in my world is that the WP and Forestmen Coexist, each being
thieves. The Forestmen have kind of a Robin Hood-esque(?) appeal to them; the
whole steal from the rich and give to the poor thing. The WP, OTOH, are just
a bunch of guys who want more cash to finance their needs (beer, ale, other
various intoxicants, as well as weapons.) For my WP leader, I used the head
of the Hoth soldier, because it's got that bit of hair hanging down, and
there's a sly and mischievious look. As for the clear-cut good guy bad guy
thing, I just think it depends on who you ask. If my WP stole 10 barrels of
ale from the KK, then the KK regards them as "bad guys." If they sold that
ale to the DM, then the DM see them as "good guys." It probably would change
frequently. That's my take on this situation.
-Chris
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In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> Right on, Shiri! I'd have to agree with just about everything.
Well I'm glad we agree!
> The one thing
> that's different in my world is that the WP and Forestmen Coexist, each being
> thieves. The Forestmen have kind of a Robin Hood-esque(?) appeal to them; the
> whole steal from the rich and give to the poor thing.
You're right, I couldn't avoid that feeling too. But in my realm it's the WP
who are Robin-Hoodish... I really don't want to wreck my story but my WP
generally go against the royalty.
> The WP, OTOH, are just
> a bunch of guys who want more cash to finance their needs (beer, ale, other
> various intoxicants, as well as weapons.)
LOL! ..."other various intoxicants"... hehehe...
> For my WP leader, I used the head
> of the Hoth soldier, because it's got that bit of hair hanging down, and
> there's a sly and mischievious look.
I like that face. I used it for a less sly guy, though - a wizard.
> As for the clear-cut good guy bad guy
> thing, I just think it depends on who you ask. If my WP stole 10 barrels of
> ale from the KK, then the KK regards them as "bad guys." If they sold that
> ale to the DM, then the DM see them as "good guys."
<grin> It's all in the timing. (1)
I see what you mean, but I meant in the "real" people's eyes, not the minifigs.
Thanks for the second view!
-Shiri
(1) "It's all in the timing. My name's Bill, BTW."... ten bucks if you know
where that's from ;-)
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In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
> > I've been thinking a bit about those Wolfpack and Forestmen (1).
> >
> > There's much more I can say about this, but another thing I came up with in
> > the process of thinking about them:
> > The WP seem forest-like to me. IMHO, brown is a great forest color and fits
> > the forest life. The "forestmen" OTOH seem to fit a more lush, green valley
> > life.
> > In my realm, the WP will not be theives as many people view them. The
> > forestmen might be, tho'. The WP will DEFINITELY have a leader in my world • and
> > they might (or might not) be allied with the FM.
> >
> > (1) I say Forestmen but the referrence is to both Dark Forest AND Forestmen.
>
> Right on, Shiri! I'd have to agree with just about everything. The one thing
> that's different in my world is that the WP and Forestmen Coexist, each being
> thieves. The Forestmen have kind of a Robin Hood-esque(?) appeal to them; the
> whole steal from the rich and give to the poor thing. The WP, OTOH, are just
> a bunch of guys who want more cash to finance their needs (beer, ale, other
> various intoxicants, as well as weapons.)
Sounds cool when can we here more?
That sounds pretty cool how you compare those two factions, but what about the
bulls? In my "lego world" I used The Bulls and The Wolfpack together as a
Mercenary Guild who sell their services to the highest bidder. For the Leader
of the WP/Bulls is a druid named Harlan (Brown Cowl,Brown cape, WP torso,
Iceplanet 2002 old guy face and Homemade Staff)I'd like to describe their
Alignment as Chaotic Neutral with a streak of evil. They are idolized as
heroes by some and spit on like criminals by others. I also use the Forestmen
but I use them as elves instead (although there is a satyr in their ranks)well
those are just my thoughts
-Cj
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> That sounds pretty cool how you compare those two factions, but what about the
> bulls? In my "lego world" I used The Bulls and The Wolfpack together as a
> Mercenary Guild who sell their services to the highest bidder. For the Leader
> of the WP/Bulls is a druid named Harlan (Brown Cowl,Brown cape, WP torso,
> Iceplanet 2002 old guy face and Homemade Staff)I'd like to describe their
> Alignment as Chaotic Neutral with a streak of evil. They are idolized as
> heroes by some and spit on like criminals by others. I also use the Forestmen
> but I use them as elves instead (although there is a satyr in their ranks)well
> those are just my thoughts
> -Cj
Ah, foo. I forgot about the Bulls. In my world, they are the "real" bad
guys. None of the other factions like them or deal with them. They're just
a "keep to themselves except when the want more land or moolah" type of
minifigs. Also, like the ideas about the elves. I might have to check into
that...What do you use for legs?
-Chris
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In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> Ah, foo. I forgot about the Bulls. In my world, they are the "real" bad
> guys. None of the other factions like them or deal with them. They're just
> a "keep to themselves except when the want more land or moolah" type of
Shouldn't that be Moo-lah? =]
Just milking another bad joke from the udder-ly silly Bull faction. Now I'll
be hoofin' it out of here.
Tony
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> Shouldn't that be Moo-lah? =]
>
> Just milking another bad joke from the udder-ly silly Bull faction. Now I'll
> be hoofin' it out of here.
>
> Tony
I think that any bull kingdom should use the official currency of
moolah. It doesn't sound like anyone is actually going to be giving
them a kingdom. I know that I'm not. But that would be a good name for
their coins.
Timbo
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> I think that any bull kingdom should use the official currency of
> moolah. It doesn't sound like anyone is actually going to be giving
> them a kingdom. I know that I'm not. But that would be a good name for
> their coins.
>
> Timbo
Sounds like a plan, man. BTW, if I ever get enough bricks, I might consider
doing some sort of volcano-ish fiery fortress to house the Bulls. Just a
thought.
-Chris
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In lugnet.castle, Tony A. Rowe writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> > Ah, foo. I forgot about the Bulls. In my world, they are the "real" bad
> > guys. None of the other factions like them or deal with them. They're just
> > a "keep to themselves except when the want more land or moolah" type of
>
> Shouldn't that be Moo-lah? =]
>
> Just milking another bad joke from the udder-ly silly Bull faction. Now I'll
> be hoofin' it out of here.
Cheez, I'm havin' a cow! I calf stand this anymore...
My Bull section is udder-ly unimportant. I have four of 'em and prefer to
ignore them. I might use the torsos that came w/o the emblem but the others
can stay in storage for now. The faces all came to a good use, tho'.
-Shiri
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Shiri Dori wrote:
> I've been thinking a bit about those Wolfpack and Forestmen (1). • <snip>
> Their connotation is also very different. While most subthemes have a pretty
> clear cut connotation (eg RK -> good guys, FK -> bad guys), these groups are
> not definite. Some view them as thieves, others view them as wandering
> warriors.
In my personal "LEGO Castle" history (separate from my CastleWorld stuff) the
(Dark) Forestmen were led by a Baron outlawed by the Royal King. (Not the
real
Royal King, though - his magical doppelganger.) He found out about the deception
and fled before the King could have him killed. Now he's trying to find where the
real King is imprisoned...
> In my realm, the WP will not be theives as many people view them. The
> forestmen might be, tho'. The WP will DEFINITELY have a leader in my world and
> they might (or might not) be allied with the FM.
In my world, the Wolfpack are tough, hard-bitten mercenaries. They'll sign up
anyone and they don't ask questions about your past. However, if you're not one
of the best, you will be by the end of your first year, or you'll be dead. The
Wolfpack have a reputation for taking on the worst jobs and surviving. They may
be mercenaries, but they have their own kind of honor.
J
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> In my world, the Wolfpack are tough, hard-bitten mercenaries. They'll sign up
> anyone and they don't ask questions about your past. However, if you're not • one
> of the best, you will be by the end of your first year, or you'll be dead. • The
> Wolfpack have a reputation for taking on the worst jobs and surviving. They • may
> be mercenaries, but they have their own kind of honor.
>
> J
</snip>
Mercs would be a GREAT term to describe the WP. I was trying to think of
something better than "thieves," but that's all I could come up with. The
vigilante style fits their appearance perfectly! A bounty-hunter type group
could also fit into this somewhere... I have two. One's a rogue Knight that
wears all black, except for his red gloves. The other's a normal peasant
looking guy, but his coolness lies in his weapon. I've given him a lightsaber
hilt with a black katana sticking out either side of it. Kind of like the old
Ronin Warriors(1) look; very cool.
(1) Old Japanese anime cartoon with cool looking suits and sweet weapons!
-Chris
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> First of all, have you seen Robin Hood Prince of Theves (1)? Well if you
> have, mentally jump to the scene where The "Forest People" (Robin Hood,
> etc.) are being attacked by the Sherif of Nottingham and the wierd,
> animalistic-like people he hired to help (forget their names).
They're called "Kilts." They're hired thugs from the North (like Vikings, or
possibly Highlanders?) I also could care less for Costner, but RH: PofT is
one of my favorite movies of all time!
-Chris
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In lugnet.castle, Dylan Bradley writes:
>
> First of all, have you seen Robin Hood Prince of Theves (1)? Well if you
> have, mentally jump to the scene where The "Forest People" (Robin Hood,
> etc.) are being attacked by the Sherif of Nottingham and the wierd,
> animalistic-like people he hired to help (forget their names).
>
> It's those very same animalistic-like peoples I've recapitulated to
> characterize my boyz (wolfpack... <g>)... As for FM and DF, I'd say they're
> the equivalent of Robin Hood & Co. in that same movie...
If memory serves me right, those were supposed to be Celts. I was not very
happy with their portrayal.
Tony
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In lugnet.castle, Carl Catuogno writes:
> That sounds pretty cool how you compare those two factions, but what about the
> bulls? In my "lego world" I used The Bulls and The Wolfpack together as a
> Mercenary Guild who sell their services to the highest bidder. For the Leader
> of the WP/Bulls is a druid named Harlan (Brown Cowl,Brown cape, WP torso,
> Iceplanet 2002 old guy face and Homemade Staff)I'd like to describe their
> Alignment as Chaotic Neutral with a streak of evil. They are idolized as
> heroes by some and spit on like criminals by others. I also use the Forestmen
> but I use them as elves instead (although there is a satyr in their ranks)well
> those are just my thoughts
> -Cj
I guess I wasn't the only one who used the bulls as Mercenary Guild/Camp. My
evil prince hires them as a group to help him win the war. I guess I had
better explain a little of my story board.
I noticed that the new 2000 knights have a very similar crest to the Royal
Knights. I'm using the Royal Knights as a rebellious prince who is jealous
because his older brother is getting the throne. Now daddy(the 2000 King and
his knights) have to stop him from taking over the kingdom.
Rob
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> If memory serves me right, those were supposed to be Celts. I was not very
> happy with their portrayal.
>
> Tony
Ahh, Celts! Now it makes sense (light bulb above head) All these years I
thought they were making fun of Scots, but instead they were just doing a bad
portrayal of Celts. Thanks for the clarification.
-Chris
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In lugnet.castle, Rob Drechsel writes:
> I guess I wasn't the only one who used the bulls as Mercenary Guild/Camp. My
> evil prince hires them as a group to help him win the war. I guess I had
> better explain a little of my story board.
> I noticed that the new 2000 knights have a very similar crest to the Royal
> Knights. I'm using the Royal Knights as a rebellious prince who is jealous
> because his older brother is getting the throne. Now daddy(the 2000 King and
> his knights) have to stop him from taking over the kingdom.
Great ideas! I noticed the similar crest as well, and my RK and KK have
actually united. I use the different shields for different factions of the
army (eg swordsmen use the KK shield while spearmen have the RK shield).
-Shiri
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Shiri Dori wrote in message ...
> I've been thinking a bit about those Wolfpack and Forestmen (1).
I like that: "(1)" format... I think I'll borrow it <g>
<snip Thoughts>
Here is how I've come to think of the three aforementioned legovillians:
First of all, have you seen Robin Hood Prince of Theves (1)? Well if you
have, mentally jump to the scene where The "Forest People" (Robin Hood,
etc.) are being attacked by the Sherif of Nottingham and the wierd,
animalistic-like people he hired to help (forget their names).
It's those very same animalistic-like peoples I've recapitulated to
characterize my boyz (wolfpack... <g>)... As for FM and DF, I'd say they're
the equivalent of Robin Hood & Co. in that same movie...
Cordially,
DBR
(1) I hate Kevin Costner...
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"To infinity and beyond!"
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Tony Rowe wrote in message ...
> In lugnet.castle, Dylan Bradley writes:
> >
> > First of all, have you seen Robin Hood Prince of Theves (1)? Well if you
> > have, mentally jump to the scene where The "Forest People" (Robin Hood,
> > etc.) are being attacked by the Sherif of Nottingham and the wierd,
> > animalistic-like people he hired to help (forget their names).
> >
> > It's those very same animalistic-like peoples I've recapitulated to
> > characterize my boyz (wolfpack... <g>)... As for FM and DF, I'd say • they're
> > the equivalent of Robin Hood & Co. in that same movie...
>
> If memory serves me right, those were supposed to be Celts. I was not very
> happy with their portrayal.
They were supposed to be Celts? Wow... I stand corrected.
Hmm...
Never the less, they are the closest thing to how I see Wolfpack I can think
of... Except the name, of course.
Apologetically,
DBR
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Shiri Dori wrote:
>
> In lugnet.castle, Rob Drechsel writes:
> > I guess I wasn't the only one who used the bulls as Mercenary Guild/Camp. My
> > evil prince hires them as a group to help him win the war. I guess I had
> > better explain a little of my story board.
> > I noticed that the new 2000 knights have a very similar crest to the Royal
> > Knights. I'm using the Royal Knights as a rebellious prince who is jealous
> > because his older brother is getting the throne. Now daddy(the 2000 King and
> > his knights) have to stop him from taking over the kingdom.
>
> Great ideas! I noticed the similar crest as well, and my RK and KK have
> actually united. I use the different shields for different factions of the
> army (eg swordsmen use the KK shield while spearmen have the RK shield).
I'll come out of hiding because you're talking about something I'm
interested in... figuring out how to organize my knights, if/when I
decide to create a large(ish) castke... ;)
OK, I have a total of 1 or 2 RK. Since I'll have so few compared to
the KK, I'd use them (or their bodies/shields) as elite/unique soldiers
of the KK. The old "crusaders" I have would be somehow aligned with the
KK/RK (lion thing and all), but I never decided as to how. The Black
Falcons and Black Monarchs are also aligned, and probably in a similar
maner as before, with the BF being a subgroup of the BM (because of
name, really). The guys with the crossed axes on their bodies are
rent-a-guard (like the Monty Python and the Holy Grail... should give
them the new kettle helms :) ). I have 1(!) wolfpack, so I don't know
how he fits in. The Bulls are mercs. At some point the magic guys pop
in (I allign the Dragon Masters and the FK, with the FK in charge), or I
could use the DM symbols as an elite group of BM, with the FK symbol
guys as a non-magical 3rd faction. :)
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In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
> I've been thinking a bit about those Wolfpack and Forestmen (1).
> First of all, I think the reason they are so sought after and viewed as "cool"
> by many castleers (aside from being hard-to-get :) is their rag-tag and
> slightly disorganized personality. Unlike the other subthemes, these don't
> have a defined-by-TLC leader (unlike King Leo, Majisto, etc) but are sort of
> improvised "armies".
> Their connotation is also very different. While most subthemes have a pretty
> clear cut connotation (eg RK -> good guys, FK -> bad guys), these groups are
> not definite. Some view them as thieves, others view them as wandering
> warriors.
>
> There's much more I can say about this, but another thing I came up with in
> the process of thinking about them:
> The WP seem forest-like to me. IMHO, brown is a great forest color and fits
> the forest life. The "forestmen" OTOH seem to fit a more lush, green valley
> life.
> In my realm, the WP will not be theives as many people view them. The
> forestmen might be, tho'. The WP will DEFINITELY have a leader in my world and
> they might (or might not) be allied with the FM.
>
> I have not thought out this whole idea but these were my first thoughts.
> LMKWYT!
>
> -Shiri
>
> (1) I say Forestmen but the referrence is to both Dark Forest AND Forestmen.
~bit of a ramble, but all very on-topic...
my forestmen are generally the villagers of a quirky small town called
HILLENDALE that is located on a river that runs through a large dense
forest. half of the town is in the wooded hillside, and half is built out
over the river. it's sort of like a medeieval New Orleans in many ways.
about 175 years old, hillendale has a lively culture, that benefits from
it's combined farming, hunting, building, and fishing resources.
the foresmen w/ blue collars are the fishermen, who maintain the
riverside of hillendale. the black collared f-men, known for their agility
and skill, are the fierce protectors of this side of the town. ('tis said
they are part _goblin_!)
the green w/ open collar and the red collar f-men tend to the parts of the
city that that go uphill and among the trees of the woods. they are the
"urban" dwellers, running a great variety of shops and services, an inn (of
course!), and several small taverns and bistros.
various "peasants" are the farmers of a brief rolling countryside in the
forest, a few miles from the town proper. they live a more "rural" lifestyle
of humility and hard work. they are the most honoured of hillendale
citizenry and form the governing council.
the dark forestmen w/ brown collars are the hunters that live deeper in
the forest around the farmlands, which they are the protectors of. there
are also a couple of lumberjacks/ wood workers in part of the forest
outlying hillendale toward the mountains.
also deep in the woods toward the mountains is the wolfpack, a gang of
marauders, (nothing short of feral), that goes by the name, BANDELOUPS (from
the french ~ ;-) things have _not_ been the same since the WILDE TWINS,
WENDEL & WENDY joined up! she is now the leader, with her brother and their
two "pet" wolves at her side. (ok, so they're unbearably cute belville
puppies, but it looks like an unbearably cute WOLF next to mini-fig!)
the other various & majickal, green and brown characters from my
craigo-lego page are the herbs and spices; but it's these characters who
provide the stock of the hillendale gumbo!
s'funny you should ask, shiri! i'd only ever thought of these characters
in vaque terms in the past. (mostly because there were'nt that many of 'em!)
over the weekend, i was sorting my awesome new FOTW(*), as well as breaking
down several castle sets from a display. as i was sorting the 'figs i gave
it some thought and came up with the outline above. (i was also MAJORLY
inspired by recently reading Neil Gaiman's "Stardust", illustated by Charlie
Vess. ~ highly reccommended!) i'd been wanting to write it all down
anyway... ;-)
i was also struck by my nice assortment, which didn't exist at all just
one year ago. (just a few dark forest; no classics) thanks to the wonderful
people i've traded and bought from (via rtl & lugnet), i am a happy camper!
5-6 years ago, i was into my lego rennaisance, but not on the net, which
seems like a dark ages of sorts looking back. here's hope for you newcommers
looking to do the same! i can't imagine a better group of people than
friends of lego.
later ~ craig~
(*) ~ there is another headed my way this week! i'm recieving an even
bigger collection (+ $50!) in exchange for designing a dragon tattoo for my
pal who's a bike cop on my street! (i can feel the green gazes!) i'll be
sharing a pic of the design with .castle, as you all will find it strikingly
familiar and unexpected. :-) i'll post the details wednesday!
i'm working on my dragon storylines, set in the mountains beyond
hillendale, where the kingdom of lapis, city of beauty and art is located.
all this has had me thinking on dragons for weeks! i'd love to read more
posts in the "Dragon Lore" thread, y'all!!
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Aw, Craig, you're killin' me... every time I think I have a good idea, you
come along with one twice as good... it's so depressing... (j/k)
In lugnet.castle, Craig Hamilton writes:
> ~bit of a ramble, but all very on-topic...
Your ramble is ALWAYS welcome here...
Hillendale sounds awesome! Does it exist soley in your mind or in lego? Any
pics?
Funny you have that "blue = fishermen", etc. thing... I was going along that
line too (ie, categorizing minifigs according to their "color"). But I (unlike
you) tend to show the minifig's *loyalties* by their colors (eg: peasants
loyal to the king will wear at least one article of blue clothing) instead of
their jobs.
> also deep in the woods toward the mountains is the wolfpack, a gang of
> marauders, (nothing short of feral), that goes by the name, BANDELOUPS (from
> the french ~ ;-) things have _not_ been the same since the WILDE TWINS,
> WENDEL & WENDY joined up! she is now the leader, with her brother and their
> two "pet" wolves at her side. (ok, so they're unbearably cute belville
> puppies, but it looks like an unbearably cute WOLF next to mini-fig!)
Argh, I'm convinced you can read my mind and steal my ideas ;-)
I'm planning on having a pet tiger, A.K.A. the belville striped cat... (the
owner of the tiger is Kfir, BTW).
> i was also struck by my nice assortment, which didn't exist at all just
> one year ago. (just a few dark forest; no classics)
I also have much more than 4 months ago. Not only do I actually have some RK
(I'm over 30 now! My army is nearing the 40 line if you count the KK) but also
I recently got my first WP figs and I'm hoping for some FM... meanwhile my
only FMs are the two I got in the crusader's cart, in 1991... the first set I
got after returning to Israel (I rememeber the day pretty clearly, even tho' I
was just ~6... :)
> 5-6 years ago, i was into my lego rennaisance, but not on the net, which
> seems like a dark ages of sorts looking back.
Mine too.
> here's hope for you newcommers
> looking to do the same! i can't imagine a better group of people than
> friends of lego.
Me either!
> (*) ~ there is another headed my way this week! i'm recieving an even
> bigger collection (+ $50!) in exchange for designing a dragon tattoo for my
> pal who's a bike cop on my street! (i can feel the green gazes!) i'll be
> sharing a pic of the design with .castle, as you all will find it strikingly
> familiar and unexpected. :-) i'll post the details wednesday!
Wow, congrats! Yes, I am seeing green right now... all the light from your
forestmen is deflecting on me, aaah!
> i'm working on my dragon storylines, set in the mountains beyond
> hillendale, where the kingdom of lapis, city of beauty and art is located.
> all this has had me thinking on dragons for weeks! i'd love to read more
> posts in the "Dragon Lore" thread, y'all!!
Can't wait to see it!
-SHiri
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In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> > If memory serves me right, those were supposed to be Celts. I was not very
> > happy with their portrayal.
> >
> > Tony
>
> Ahh, Celts! Now it makes sense (light bulb above head) All these years I
> thought they were making fun of Scots, but instead they were just doing a bad
> portrayal of Celts. Thanks for the clarification.
> -Chris
Excuse me? You must be joking... Scots *are* Celtic..
~Nathan
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In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
> I've been thinking a bit about those Wolfpack and Forestmen (1).
>
> First of all, I think the reason they are so sought after and viewed as "cool"
> by many castleers (aside from being hard-to-get :) is their rag-tag and
> slightly disorganized personality. Unlike the other subthemes, these don't
> have a defined-by-TLC leader (unlike King Leo, Majisto, etc) but are sort of
> improvised "armies".
> Their connotation is also very different. While most subthemes have a pretty
> clear cut connotation (eg RK -> good guys, FK -> bad guys), these groups are
> not definite. Some view them as thieves, others view them as wandering
> warriors.
hmm staying put warriors would probably be the term best used to describe them
for me.
My sum total of 'forestmen' elements is in the picture
http://www.geocities.com/jehowse/forestmen.jpg
with the exception of a brown hat, (a wolf pack fig has stolen it) and for the
record I oly have two WP figs.
Thankfully, since I (will) specialise in small scene set photos two figs can
appear to be many with arm/head/face/leg/accessories swaps, not to mention
shooting from behind which does not need the front printing.
James - feeling OK about having only 4 greenies...
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In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> > First of all, have you seen Robin Hood Prince of Theves (1)? Well if you
> > have, mentally jump to the scene where The "Forest People" (Robin Hood,
> > etc.) are being attacked by the Sherif of Nottingham and the wierd,
> > animalistic-like people he hired to help (forget their names).
>
> They're called "Kilts."
No, they might be called "Celts"
(if they're supposed to be Celtic warriors).
If they're Scotsmen,
then they *wear* "kilts"....
;-)
Franklin
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In lugnet.castle, Nathan McDowell writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> > > If memory serves me right, those were supposed to be Celts. I was not very
> > > happy with their portrayal.
> > >
> > > Tony
> >
> > Ahh, Celts! Now it makes sense (light bulb above head) All these years I
> > thought they were making fun of Scots, but instead they were just doing a bad
> > portrayal of Celts. Thanks for the clarification.
> > -Chris
>
> Excuse me? You must be joking... Scots *are* Celtic..
Only vaguely. Scots are much more Pictish, really. No self-respecting Celt
is going to strip down and cover himself in blue paint before battle. ;)
If you're looking for Celts(1), you should be looking in Ireland and Wales.
That being said, there's been so much intermingling in that region that
everyone is a bit of everything.
James (the slowly recovering from very busy weeks)
1:Of the non-Bostonian variety - so pronounce it with a hard "c" folks.
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In lugnet.castle, James Brown writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Nathan McDowell writes:
> > In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> > > > If memory serves me right, those were supposed to be Celts. I was not very
> > > > happy with their portrayal.
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > >
> > > Ahh, Celts! Now it makes sense (light bulb above head) All these years I
> > > thought they were making fun of Scots, but instead they were just doing a • bad
> > > portrayal of Celts. Thanks for the clarification.
> > > -Chris
> >
> > Excuse me? You must be joking... Scots *are* Celtic..
>
> Only vaguely. Scots are much more Pictish, really. No self-respecting Celt
> is going to strip down and cover himself in blue paint before battle. ;)
The celts were stripping down to their bare shield back when they were
terrorizing early Rome. I forget whether they were into woad at that time, but
I'll check my books when I get home. I think they were, but celts wander in
and out of so many places - Galatia, Greece, Italy, Briton, etc. - I tend to
confuse one era with another sometimes.
Bruce
Bruce
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In lugnet.castle, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> In lugnet.castle, James Brown writes:
> > In lugnet.castle, Nathan McDowell writes:
> > > In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> > > > > If memory serves me right, those were supposed to be Celts. I was not • very
> > > > > happy with their portrayal.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony
> > > >
> > > > Ahh, Celts! Now it makes sense (light bulb above head) All these years I
> > > > thought they were making fun of Scots, but instead they were just doing a • bad
> > > > portrayal of Celts. Thanks for the clarification.
> > > > -Chris
> > >
> > > Excuse me? You must be joking... Scots *are* Celtic..
> >
> > Only vaguely. Scots are much more Pictish, really. No self-respecting Celt
> > is going to strip down and cover himself in blue paint before battle. ;)
>
> The celts were stripping down to their bare shield back when they were
> terrorizing early Rome. I forget whether they were into woad at that time, • but
> I'll check my books when I get home. I think they were, but celts wander in
> and out of so many places - Galatia, Greece, Italy, Briton, etc. - I tend to
> confuse one era with another sometimes.
>
> Bruce
Heck, they even took over the city of Rome! However, that only lasted one day.
Wait a minute... maybe that was the Visigoths.
Err... any history majors with a better memory than mine?
Tony
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In lugnet.castle, Tony A. Rowe writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> > In lugnet.castle, James Brown writes:
> > > No self-respecting Celt
> > > is going to strip down and cover himself in blue paint before battle. ;)
> >
> > The celts were stripping down to their bare shield back when they were
> > terrorizing early Rome. I forget whether they were into woad at that time, • but
> > I'll check my books when I get home. I think they were, but celts wander in
> > and out of so many places - Galatia, Greece, Italy, Briton, etc. - I tend to
> > confuse one era with another sometimes.
> >
> > Bruce
>
> Heck, they even took over the city of Rome! However, that only lasted one • day.
>
> Wait a minute... maybe that was the Visigoths.
>
> Err... any history majors with a better memory than mine?
>
> Tony
The Visigoths did a leisurely pillage of Rome over two weeks.
Bruce
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In lugnet.castle, Nathan McDowell writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> > > If memory serves me right, those were supposed to be Celts. I was not very
> > > happy with their portrayal.
> > >
> > > Tony
> >
> > Ahh, Celts! Now it makes sense (light bulb above head) All these years I
> > thought they were making fun of Scots, but instead they were just doing a bad
> > portrayal of Celts. Thanks for the clarification.
> > -Chris
>
> Excuse me? You must be joking... Scots *are* Celtic..
>
> ~Nathan
No, no. The Scottish are of Pictish decent, as well as Germanic. The Celts
are niether Scottish or Pictish.
-Chris
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In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Nathan McDowell writes:
> > In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> > > > If memory serves me right, those were supposed to be Celts. I was not very
> > > > happy with their portrayal.
> > > >
> > > > Tony
> > >
> > > Ahh, Celts! Now it makes sense (light bulb above head) All these years I
> > > thought they were making fun of Scots, but instead they were just doing a • bad
> > > portrayal of Celts. Thanks for the clarification.
> > > -Chris
> >
> > Excuse me? You must be joking... Scots *are* Celtic..
> >
> > ~Nathan
>
> No, no. The Scottish are of Pictish decent, as well as Germanic. The Celts
> are niether Scottish or Pictish.
> -Chris
If you are interested in the history of these peoples go to <A
HREF="http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/DavidDale1/Hisco.htm">The
History of the Scots, Picts, and Britons by David F. Dale</A>
~Nathan
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In lugnet.castle, Nathan McDowell writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> > In lugnet.castle, Nathan McDowell writes:
> > > In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> > > > > If memory serves me right, those were supposed to be Celts. I was not • very
> > > > > happy with their portrayal.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony
> > > >
> > > > Ahh, Celts! Now it makes sense (light bulb above head) All these years I
> > > > thought they were making fun of Scots, but instead they were just doing a • bad
> > > > portrayal of Celts. Thanks for the clarification.
> > > > -Chris
> > >
> > > Excuse me? You must be joking... Scots *are* Celtic..
> > >
> > > ~Nathan
Yep, you're right. I stand corrected.
-Chris
> >
> > No, no. The Scottish are of Pictish decent, as well as Germanic. The Celts
> > are niether Scottish or Pictish.
>
> > -Chris
>
> If you are interested in the history of these peoples go to <A
> HREF="http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/DavidDale1/Hisco.htm">The
> History of the Scots, Picts, and Britons by David F. Dale</A>
>
> ~Nathan
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Just a note:
It's probably about your last chance to get a dark forest guy from LEGO rather
than ebay,etc. See the ugly fright nights set with him at half price at:
http://www.lugnet.com/lsahs .
(of course, this only works for Americans)
Alan
Random Set
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In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Nathan McDowell writes:
> > In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> > > In lugnet.castle, Nathan McDowell writes:
> > > > In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> > > > > > If memory serves me right, those were supposed to be Celts. I was not • very
> > > > > > happy with their portrayal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tony
> > > > >
> > > > > Ahh, Celts! Now it makes sense (light bulb above head) All these years I
> > > > > thought they were making fun of Scots, but instead they were just doing a • bad
> > > > > portrayal of Celts. Thanks for the clarification.
> > > > > -Chris
> > > >
> > > > Excuse me? You must be joking... Scots *are* Celtic..
> > > >
> > > > ~Nathan
>
>
> Yep, you're right. I stand corrected.
> -Chris
Sorry, I didn't mean to sound so harsh. I didn't mean it harsh, but I just
read it again and it does kinda sound that way, sorry. =)
~Nathan
> > >
> > > No, no. The Scottish are of Pictish decent, as well as Germanic. The Celts
> > > are niether Scottish or Pictish.
> >
> > > -Chris
> >
> > If you are interested in the history of these peoples go to <A
> > HREF="http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/DavidDale1/Hisco.htm">The
> > History of the Scots, Picts, and Britons by David F. Dale</A>
> >
> > ~Nathan
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> > > > > Excuse me? You must be joking... Scots *are* Celtic..
> > > > >
> > > > > ~Nathan
> >
> >
> > Yep, you're right. I stand corrected.
> > -Chris
>
> Sorry, I didn't mean to sound so harsh. I didn't mean it harsh, but I just
> read it again and it does kinda sound that way, sorry. =)
>
> ~Nathan
No problem, man. Don't beat yourself up over it. I just had some bad info,
and you righted it. Nothing wrong with that. The sad thing is, my great
grandfather is Scottish...sorry Grandpa <looks at sky and cowers>
-Chris
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Alan Gerber wrote:
> Just a note:
> It's probably about your last chance to get a dark forest guy from LEGO rather
> than ebay,etc. See the ugly fright nights set with him at half price at:
> http://www.lugnet.com/lsahs .
> (of course, this only works for Americans)
Hi Alan,
Do you mean the Witch's Magic Manor?
If so, I called yesterday around 5:00 CST and was told that they had just sold
out...
Chris
--
Remove the nospam machine name in my email address to send a personal reply.
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I think he might have been talking about 6097.
Chris
> From: Christopher Lindsey <lindsey@nospam.mallorn.com>
> Organization: None
> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 00:25:48 GMT
> To: lugnet.castle@lugnet.com, lugnet.market.shopping@lugnet.com
> Subject: Re: Forestmen and Wolfpack... thoughts
>
> Alan Gerber wrote:
>
> > Just a note:
> > It's probably about your last chance to get a dark forest guy from LEGO
> > rather
> > than ebay,etc. See the ugly fright nights set with him at half price at:
> > http://www.lugnet.com/lsahs .
> > (of course, this only works for Americans)
>
> Hi Alan,
>
> Do you mean the Witch's Magic Manor?
>
> If so, I called yesterday around 5:00 CST and was told that they had just sold
> out...
>
> Chris
>
> --
> Remove the nospam machine name in my email address to send a personal reply.
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In lugnet.market.shopping, Chris Norman writes:
> I think he might have been talking about 6097.
Nope.. Witch's Magic Manor ,but it's all sold out, so too bad.
Alan
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Christopher Lindsey wrote in message
<38E14D8B.9E97E4A1@nospam.mallorn.com>...
> Alan Gerber wrote:
>
> > Just a note:
> > It's probably about your last chance to get a dark forest guy from LEGO • rather
> > than ebay,etc. See the ugly fright nights set with him at half price at:
> > http://www.lugnet.com/lsahs .
> > (of course, this only works for Americans)
>
> Hi Alan,
>
> Do you mean the Witch's Magic Manor?
>
> If so, I called yesterday around 5:00 CST and was told that they had just • sold
> out...
>
> Chris
Please excuse this ever-so-humble attempt to sell the one set I have of 6087
(Witch's magic manor)
I have one, new in an unopened box that I'll sell for $25
Inaudibly,
DBR
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In lugnet.castle, Richard Marchetti writes:
> This explains why you now have one of these guys, it came with 6071. I never
> realized it before, but there are TWO reasons to desperately want this set:
> the Forest Wench and now the lil' Black Collared Forest Guy!
Wowee! And to think I should be getting that set in a few days! Now I have yet
another reason to expect the mail ;-)
(Finally my forestman population will grow beyond two!)
-Shiri
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