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    Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Fernando A. Conchinhas Correia
   (...) See my PREVIEW analysis at (URL) (Conchas) (URL) (17 years ago, 6-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic) ! 
   
        Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Allan Porter
     (...) However now that I have seen them I am quite dissapointed and I can't see me buying any of them. It is very good to see them investing in new part designs but this is such a cop out. If they had longer pneumatics (powered by air) then that (...) (17 years ago, 6-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Fernando A. Conchinhas Correia
      Yes, I would prefer real pneumatic cylinders too! And longer like these. It seems a way to enable "easy" motorization of these elements, instead of developing a new PF pneumatic valve electrically controlled. Perhaps also a cheaper approach... I (...) (17 years ago, 6-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Steven Lane
      (...) I'd pretty much agree with that appraisal, it looks like the Telehandler doesn't even self level, which is the whole point. Unless the liner actuators have metal bearings their gonna stink. My pessimistic side says this is just another money (...) (17 years ago, 6-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Myles Barrett
      Personally I am really quite enthused by the linear actuators, for me the actuators represent a new variant to the lego system that will enable significantly better positioning than with pneumatic cylinders and will also not suffer from the (...) (17 years ago, 8-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Steven Lane
       (...) The irony is that the linear actuators would be the perfect solution for building a self leveling telescopic loader. To expand the telescopic parts simply turn both inputs by the same amount. (17 years ago, 8-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Allan Porter
      (...) Oh yes technic has deffinatley come a long way since then. And yes it is always nice to see new functional parts being designed. There are some situations where these actuators would be the perfect solution, but not many. A CNC machine, whislt (...) (17 years ago, 9-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Steven Lane
       In lugnet.technic, Allan Porter wrote: There are some situations where (...) Depending on how much play the actuators had.(stating the obvious). (17 years ago, 9-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Philippe Hurbain
       (...) On the other hand pneumatics are very difficult to control in proportional mode. The linear actuators will be great for that! Philo (17 years ago, 10-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Fernando A. Conchinhas Correia
      (...) Man, we share the same vision. I've been asking exactly for that wherever I can writ about it! ;) (17 years ago, 15-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Stephane Simard
     You summed up absolutely all my feelings regarding the new sets. Looks like this year will be good for my wallet. All of the large technic sets of the 90's destroy this crap. (17 years ago, 9-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! Gereon Stein
     Hi Fernando, thanks for the update - I'm afraid I am somewhere between feelings on these new sets. For one, I agree with all who think that replacing real pneumatics with anything lookalike is not exactly the way to go. I shall be curious about the (...) (17 years ago, 6-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Brian Davis
      (...) Simply put, I'll wait until I get to play with them to judge them. It's a little hard for me to form a realistic opinion based on a couple of boxcover pictures near the limit of resolution. (...) Actually, you're partially mistaken. The NXT (...) (17 years ago, 6-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Steven Lane
       (...) I saw it this morning by following some links but I can't find it again. :-( (17 years ago, 7-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
      
           Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Brian Davis
       (...) Ah, OK. I found it over on Eurobricks. That is a nice looking Mars tank, with the big hubs for the new treads too. Very welcome. (17 years ago, 7-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
      
           Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Steven Lane
       (...) I can't beleive it. Lego are so cheap they haven't even changed the colour of the hubs! They're still yellow, which isn't even a Misson to Mars colour as far as I know. I was looking forward to some grey hubs for other applications. (URL) (17 years ago, 7-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
      
           Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Ian Power
       (...) strict on themselves and their color schemes. It may not even be the final box shot. Let's see what happens. And as far as my two cents are worth on the new actuators, I'm not impressed. They look like a real pain to model with (getting drive (...) (17 years ago, 7-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
      
           Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! Gereon Stein
       (...) I second that what you say w/regard to pneumatics. As for colors, it is no - and never has been a - big deal to mold parts in different colors. I should be very surprised if TLC would break their own color schemes just for the sake of saving a (...) (17 years ago, 7-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! Gereon Stein
       (...) I might have guessed - actually using IR for communications is a better idea than many people seem to think. I've already had my share of playing around with IR on the RCX ;) (...) I call that an interesting and entirely sensible approach - (...) (17 years ago, 7-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
      
           Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —John Morgan
       (...) greetings, the ability to control the PF ir link via the NXT has been confirmed ? I seem to recall someone indicating they couldn't control the new RC train motors via the PF IR controller. I personally think this would be an advantage so you (...) (17 years ago, 7-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
      
           Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Brian Davis
       (...) Yes, the IRLink can control the PF IR receiver. For instance, here is autonomous Bulldozer sumo, using only slightly modified stock kits "driven" by NXTs: (URL) I seem to recall someone indicating they couldn't (...) I believe you can, (...) (17 years ago, 7-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
      
           Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —John Morgan
        (...) I'm glad LEGO enabled this ability to expand the NTX into the PF. (...) yup, well the Dino set was on sale and TRU gave me a coupon to boot, so I got two for around $110. I haven't seen the bulldozer in a brick and mortar store yet and my (...) (17 years ago, 8-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
      
           Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —David Koudys
        In lugnet.technic, Brian Davis wrote: <snip> (...) That's it! I'm moving to Indiana. Steve and/or B rian--have room on a couch for me? That is, until I find my own place? Dave K (17 years ago, 8-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
       
            Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Steve Hassenplug
        (...) If you don't mind sleeping in a room full of LEGO pieces, I'm sure I have a place. :) Steve (...) (17 years ago, 8-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
       
            Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —David Koudys
        (...) Same--if you ever get up here, got a spot for ya amongst the various plastic bricks... :) Dave K (17 years ago, 9-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
      
           Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! Gereon Stein
       Guys, I am telling my wife who you are and where to find you... ...at least when she finds out why I decided I just have to get the 'dozer and my first NXT now! One can tell you were having a ball with these beasties. Great movie, great idea - I (...) (17 years ago, 8-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
      
           Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Geoffrey Hyde
         "Gereon "Jerry" Stein" <jerry@lugnet.com> wrote in message news:JuCGwD.ABt@lugnet.com... (...) Worry not about your wife. The kids will be the major worry. ;-) Once they find out how cool the sets are, even if they're not your kids, (Okay I guess, (...) (17 years ago, 8-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
      
           Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Brian Davis
       (...) No problem: You & Dave can both come over to Indiana and bring on the Bulldozers. Oh, and you'll need an IRLink from Hitechnic as well... you can blame that on us too :). Yes, it was a lot of fun (Dave, come on down - I'll be glad to loan out (...) (17 years ago, 8-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
      
           Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Kevin L. Clague
       (...) I love the video. I laughed out loud many times! Great job!, I was suprised at how well the Scorpion did! Kevin (17 years ago, 10-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Geoffrey Hyde
       "Brian Davis" <brdavis@iusb.edu> wrote in message news:Ju8yBD.IqJ@lugnet.com... (...) Unless I'm mistaken, and you're talking about rewiring the PF/NXT connectors, I do not see that a NXT-to9V convertor cable could directly power more than one PF (...) (17 years ago, 7-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Brian Davis
      (...) Perhaps I didn't explain that as well as I thought. I was just talking about controlling a single PF motor using a single NXT output port. The requires, currently, *two* different conversion cables: one that will connect into an NXT output (...) (17 years ago, 7-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Stephane Simard
     Looks like 2008 will be another crap year for Technic. (2004 anyone? that year alone almost made me gave up buying any new Lego). Oh well, can't complain too much, we had 3 great consecutive years (2005 gave us the mighty 8421, 2006 a large (...) (17 years ago, 17-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Holger Matthes
   Hi all, as pre-dark-age Technic fan in 2007 I had to buy all the new Technic models. I am very impressed by every set, beginning with the little crane, the blue truck and last but not least the dozer. The linear actuator for me seems to be a nice (...) (17 years ago, 8-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic, FTX)
   
        Re: New TECHNIC sets for Fall 2008. Box images leaked! —Fernando A. Conchinhas Correia
   (...) I believe that Universal Jointer, is not a part per si, but integrated at Linear Actuator instead!? (17 years ago, 15-Jan-08, to lugnet.technic, FTX)
 

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